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Topic: 2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread

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medinabuckeye1

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Re: 2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #966 on: January 22, 2019, 04:03:34 PM »
Massey composite rankings (59 rankings), with last week in parenthesis (remember it does not factor in last night's results)...

  • 4 MICHIGAN STATE (4)
  • MICHIGAN (6)
  • 10 MARYLAND
  • 14 Purdue
  • 21 NEBRASKA (18)
  • 23 IOWA (-)26. Wisconsin (26)
  • 36. Indiana (27)
  • 37. Ohio State (33)
  • 56. Minnesota (42)
  • 65. Northwestern (60)
  • 85. Penn State (79)
  • 125. Illinois (129)
  • 132. Rutgers (104)
Compared to our current tiers:
  • 4 MSU, 6 M
  • n/a
  • 10 Maryland, 14 Purdue, 21 Nebraska
  • 23 Iowa, 26 Wisconsin, 36 Indiana
  • 37 Ohio State
  • 56 Minnesota, 65 Northwestern, 85 Penn State
  • 125 Illinois, 132 Rutgers

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Re: 2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #967 on: January 22, 2019, 04:32:44 PM »
Compared to our current tiers:
  • 4 MSU, 6 M
  • n/a
  • 10 Maryland, 14 Purdue, 21 Nebraska
  • 23 Iowa, 26 Wisconsin, 36 Indiana
  • 37 Ohio State
  • 56 Minnesota, 65 Northwestern, 85 Penn State
  • 125 Illinois, 132 Rutgers

Almost looks like dropping UNL and IU makes sense, based on those rankings, and abolish tier 2.
« Last Edit: January 22, 2019, 04:57:47 PM by 847badgerfan »
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Re: 2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #968 on: January 22, 2019, 04:54:08 PM »
Almost looks like dropping NU and IU makes sense, based on those rankings, and abolish tier 2.
I assume that by "NU" you meant Nebraska?  I almost always use "UNL" when referring to them on this board to avoid confusion with Northwestern.  
It does look like you are correct but Indiana is at Northwestern tonight so I figure we'll wait and see what happens because in their current spot (tier-4) they should win but if we drop them into the Ohio State tier (tier-5), they should lose.  If Indiana does lose tonight in Evanston then I'll drop them.  If they win, then no.  
Nebraska is another matter.  They have a positive upset (winning at Indiana) but that will no longer be an upset if we drop Indiana.  Then they have two negative upsets (losing at MN and losing at Rutgers).  Both would still be upsets unless we dropped them at least two tiers which obviously isn't warranted at this point.  I think we'll wait and see.  That said, this is their entire remaining schedule:
  • vs tOSU Saturday (should win either way)
  • vs UW 1/29 (should win either way)
  • at IL 2/2 (should win either way)
  • vs UMD 2/6 (should win either way)
  • at PU 2/9 (should lose either way)
  • vs MN 2/13 (should win either way)
  • vs NU 2/16 (should win either way)
  • at PSU 2/19 (should win either way)
  • at M 2/28 (should lose either way)
  • at MSU 3/5 (should lose either way)
  • vs Iowa 3/10 (whould win either way)
Note that for projection purposes it makes no difference whether the Cornhuskers are in tier-2 or tier-3.  The only game it makes any difference for is at Ohio State and the Cornhuskers do not play in Columbus this year.  

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Re: 2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #969 on: January 22, 2019, 04:54:14 PM »
I think you mean, UNL
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Re: 2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #970 on: January 22, 2019, 04:58:38 PM »
I think you mean, UNL
Correct. Thinking about Northwestern while typing, since UW plays them this week..
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Re: 2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #971 on: January 22, 2019, 05:25:03 PM »
It does look like you are correct but Indiana is at Northwestern tonight so I figure we'll wait and see what happens because in their current spot (tier-4) they should win but if we drop them into the Ohio State tier (tier-5), they should lose.  If Indiana does lose tonight in Evanston then I'll drop them.  If they win, then no.  
The difference for Indiana between tier-4 (where they are now) and tier-5 (proposed change) is the following games:
  • vs PU 2/19
  • vs UMD (not played this year)
  • vs UNL L 66-51
  • at MN 2/16
  • at NU (tonight)
  • at PSU W 64-62
So that is six potential games but one is not played.  The Hoosiers are 1-1 in the two played so far with one more tonight and the last two in mid-February.  

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Re: 2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #972 on: January 22, 2019, 08:30:06 PM »
Wouldn't be surprised if it's happening right now... 

Baltimore Sun: Former Terps star McMillen predicts 'major gambling scandal' tied to college sports betting in future.
https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/politics/bs-md-tom-mcmillen-sports-betting-20190122-story.html

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Re: 2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #973 on: January 22, 2019, 08:40:55 PM »
LOL 

I swear, it's all of us UMD fans! Not just me....

I knew Michigan State was good, and the 2 day deal was crap, so I expected a loss, but I swear, that Dook hate runs deep!


https://twitter.com/BryanNehman/status/1087520419064803329?s=19


https://twitter.com/BiduKoroma/status/1087679877568974849?s=19


https://twitter.com/BiduKoroma/status/1087530959296233472?s=19

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Re: 2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #974 on: January 22, 2019, 09:01:43 PM »
Gophers gave Michigan a game!
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Re: 2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #975 on: January 22, 2019, 09:12:42 PM »
Another very frustrating game, but I'll take the win, despite the near-choke. The defense wasn't great (Minnesota's stupid turnovers made it look better than it is) but good enough, despite allowing some open 3s and committing some dumb fouls. I can't imagine how maddening it is to be a Minnesota basketball fan and have to watch such awful offense.

Offensively, they didn't turn it over much tonight, but that's the only big positive, except that Brazdeikis finally had a big second half. Poole and Matthews still had awful games, Simpson was shooting too much, and only Teske played a complete game, once again. Brooks played his best game in awhile, if only by default, so hopefully he'll be more aggressive in the future. Minnesota is a big but not great defensive team, and Michigan was getting its share of open looks but just didn't see them or missed too many of them.

The return game to Indiana is next. Hopefully they'll be focused on shooting drills until then.
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Re: 2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #976 on: January 23, 2019, 12:09:52 AM »
Wouldn't be surprised if it's happening right now...

Baltimore Sun: Former Terps star McMillen predicts 'major gambling scandal' tied to college sports betting in future.
https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/politics/bs-md-tom-mcmillen-sports-betting-20190122-story.html
We live in a national/global world. Gambling is big enough in Nevada that it could affect any NCAA team in the country. He's all worried that if MD legalizes it, it will change something. Nope. Won't change a thing.

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Re: 2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #977 on: January 23, 2019, 03:39:42 AM »
We live in a national/global world. Gambling is big enough in Nevada that it could affect any NCAA team in the country. He's all worried that if MD legalizes it, it will change something. Nope. Won't change a thing.
Because it's already happening. 
Crooks behind the scenes influencing outcomes.

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Re: 2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #978 on: January 23, 2019, 07:28:08 AM »
Based on Indiana's loss I went ahead and moved them down into tier-5.  The updated tiers are:
  • MSU, M
  • BLANK
  • PU, UMD, UNL
  • UW, IA
  • IU, tOSU
  • NU, MN, PSU
  • IL, RU

All teams except Nebraska and Minnesota are within +/-1 on upsets.  Nebraska is at -2 but the problem is that both of their upset losses would be upsets even if we dropped them a tier.  Minnesota is at +2 and similarly, even if we elevated them a tier the two upset wins would still be upsets.  

Wisconsin is a bit of an oddity with two positive and two negative upsets.  I guess they are just an inconsistent team?  The two positive upsets are a win in Iowa City and a win over Michigan.  The two negative upsets are home losses to Minnesota and Purdue.  

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Re: 2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #979 on: January 23, 2019, 07:32:49 AM »
Well poop.  Kyle Young for the Bucks out for a while with a stress fracture in his leg.  Just when I was convincing myself the Bucks could get back in this thing...

 

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