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Topic: 2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread

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Re: 2018-2019 B1G BB Thread
« Reply #98 on: April 13, 2018, 03:29:55 PM »
Catch me up here fellas.
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Re: 2018-2019 B1G BB Thread
« Reply #99 on: April 13, 2018, 10:51:44 PM »
Catch me up here fellas.
Tawdry.   Apparently Haas had chlamydia but thought he was clean, had sex without protection. Not entirely sure whether he infected this girl with herpes or chlamydia AND herpes, but something. She's suing him and Purdue .

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Re: 2018-2019 B1G BB Thread
« Reply #100 on: April 14, 2018, 11:15:56 AM »
The text messages that have now been aired publicly don't paint Haas in the best light. All consensual, but looks like he was having quite a bit of fun with at least a couple women, while knowingly carrying an STD or two.

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Re: 2018-2019 B1G BB Thread
« Reply #101 on: April 14, 2018, 11:21:09 AM »
Mo Wagner declares for the draft with an agent. A good decision I think. He may have slid up a little next year, but that would mostly be attributed to next year not being quite as deep of a big man draft. Projected anywhere from late 1st to mid 2nd.

With the Ibi Watson transfer that opens up one scholarship. Michigan is pursuing Matt Mooney, a grad transfer from the University of South Dakota that many other are in on as well (Ohio State, Texas Tech, Arizona). He fits the role of Rahkman, and would be a great replacement for him.

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Re: 2018-2019 B1G BB Thread
« Reply #102 on: April 14, 2018, 11:22:18 AM »
Is the South Dakota kid really looking to transfer now?

UW kicked his tires too. Not sure where that all stands.
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Re: 2018-2019 B1G BB Thread
« Reply #103 on: April 14, 2018, 01:03:10 PM »
Two different transfers I think we might be talking about.

Mike Daum, the all everything 6’9 shooter from SDSU is a very unlikely grad transfer. More likely to stay or declare for the NBA. I think that is who Wisconsin might have been looking into. For some reason Kentucky fans think they have a shot at him, but he doesn’t appear to have an interest in transferring.

Matt Mooney, from USD, is a lesser known 2 guard. He averaged 19 a game. He is transferring and is being hotly pursued by a number of teams.

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Re: 2018-2019 B1G BB Thread
« Reply #104 on: April 14, 2018, 01:21:58 PM »
Gotcha. Yeah, I think he stays or declares. The only reason I could see him moving is if he wants to get a masters from a Big Ten school or equal. Given his ability to play hoops, he probably doesn't need a masters.
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Re: 2018-2019 B1G BB Thread
« Reply #105 on: April 16, 2018, 10:43:20 AM »
Nojel Eastern declaring without an agent.  Can't imagine there is any chance, so no harm.  To be honest, why doesn't every player on every team do this?

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Re: 2018-2019 B1G BB Thread
« Reply #106 on: April 16, 2018, 12:39:46 PM »
Nojel Eastern declaring without an agent.  Can't imagine there is any chance, so no harm.  To be honest, why doesn't every player on every team do this?
Yeah, I'm surprised it doesn't happen more often. In fact, though, Eastern is a perfect example of why this rule will probably be changed. Eastern has NO shot at the draft this year. None. His game is NOWHERE near ready.
Carsen Edwards, if he went, would probably be a 2nd rounder this year, but we're expecting him to return to Purdue as long as he doesn't hear he's a 1st-rounder. He's not only IMHO asking scouts what to work on, he's legitimately testing the waters to see where he'd go. I think it's probably a 10-15% chance at best that he gets feedback that keeps him in the draft, but that's 10-15% higher odds than Nojel has.
Now, I can understand why some players may not do it. There are a lot of players at the college level who basically have no shot at EVER playing in the NBA, and perhaps they know it. If they don't have the size and athleticism, an NBA scout might tell them how to work on their skills, but he can't exactly tell them "grow 3 inches and add 9 inches to your vertical, while improving your lateral quickness." 
Eastern is doing this because he does have NBA size and athleticism. His game is raw, and he's nowhere near ready for the NBA, but given that he's got the potential to be there in a few years, it makes perfect sense to get an evaluation and find out what you need to work on.
But I think the rule will probably be changed at some point because as more and more players try to take advantage of this, the NBA scouts are going to get sick and tired of it and not want all these players coming just for free evaluations. 

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Re: 2018-2019 B1G BB Thread
« Reply #107 on: April 16, 2018, 01:22:30 PM »
Yeah, I thin ka rule change is for sure coming.  For one, it's dumb to force them to "declare" to get it, when we all know they'll be back.  Second, yes, I imagine the system will begin becoming flooded with kids just seeking advice on what to work on, and NBA scouts aren't going to want to deal with telling 400 kids what to go work on next season, knowing they have no legitimate chance in the draft.

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Re: 2018-2019 B1G BB Thread
« Reply #108 on: April 16, 2018, 01:46:03 PM »
The era  today for college basketball, as it relates to roster planning, is a gigantic nightmare for coaches.

program's are dealing with:

  • 1 or 2 year and done draft entrants
  • Grad transfers in and out
  • Draft entrants that are just testing the waters
  • A number of kids doing a year of prep school for their sr year or after it.
  • A large influx of international talent and a lot of ambiguity on NCAA and school acceptance standards for those kids

In Beilein's 9 man rotation this year he had a Division 3 transfer, A MAC grad transfer, an international kid from Germany, a prep academy kid, and a Kentucky transfer.

5 of his 9 rotational spots came via somewhat non-traditional routes.

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Re: 2018-2019 B1G BB Thread
« Reply #109 on: April 16, 2018, 01:47:12 PM »
Poor guys.  If only they were well compensated for their troubles.

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Re: 2018-2019 B1G BB Thread
« Reply #110 on: April 16, 2018, 02:06:31 PM »
Poor guys.  If only they were well compensated for their troubles.
If they wanted compensation, they shoulda gone to Louisville.

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Re: 2018-2019 B1G BB Thread
« Reply #111 on: April 16, 2018, 02:11:26 PM »
In Beilein's 9 man rotation this year he had a Division 3 transfer, A MAC grad transfer, an international kid from Germany, a prep academy kid, and a Kentucky transfer.

5 of his 9 rotational spots came via somewhat non-traditional routes.
Beilein holds the cards.  He can go strictly traditional 3-star kids that will stay and play 4 years if he'd like.
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