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Topic: #20 Iowa (3-4, 6-4) at #8 Wisconsin (7-0, 10-0) Post game

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Re: Iowa (3-3, 6-3) at Wisconsin (5-0, 9-0) Game Week
« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2017, 08:19:28 PM »
Yes, statistically Wisconsin does have a better defense than Ohio State (approx 270 ypg vs approx 325), both of which are better than Iowa (about 370).  The real discrepancy is PPG though.  Wisconsin gives up about 13, Iowa gives up about 18, and OSU gives up about 22.

But I don't know how well that translates because both Iowa and Ohio State have played better teams than Wisconsin - if UW played either UI or OSU's schedule, they may well be undefeated, but I'd wager their defensive numbers would suffer some.

Ehh, those stats are prone to warping by pace. Based on at least one opponent-adjusted number, UW's is notably better. Then again, Iowa's offense wasn't all that good and ... well. 

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Re: Iowa (3-3, 6-3) at Wisconsin (5-0, 9-0) Game Week
« Reply #15 on: November 07, 2017, 08:23:18 PM »
This is a huge game for both teams.  Wisconsin is favored, and rightfully so, but they haven't played anyone with a pulse yet.  I'm not convinced Iowa counts as a team with a pulse, but they did pull off arguably the biggest stunner of the season by waxing a really, really good Ohio State team.  If Wisconsin beats Iowa, they're not going to lose until at least the B1G championship game.  If Iowa beats Wisconsin, it's also highly likely they win out until at least the postseason.  They may need a little help, but they're not entirely out of the NY6 picture.
Hey now, NW is 6-3. Those losses are one bad (Duke), two good (UW, PSU). They've also knocked off this mighty Iowa team and all-but killed MSU's playoff chances. Don't care about UW's credit, but at least give those nerds their due. 

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Re: #20 Iowa (3-3, 6-3) at #8 Wisconsin (5-0, 9-0) Game Week
« Reply #16 on: November 08, 2017, 06:49:57 AM »
I did note that NU is now ranked #25 by the playoff committee.
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Re: #20 Iowa (3-3, 6-3) at #8 Wisconsin (5-0, 9-0) Game Week
« Reply #17 on: November 08, 2017, 10:57:31 AM »
I like UW at home, but expect a battle.
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Re: #20 Iowa (3-3, 6-3) at #8 Wisconsin (5-0, 9-0) Game Week
« Reply #18 on: November 08, 2017, 11:45:07 AM »
I did note that NU is now ranked #25 by the playoff committee.
That was a touch curious.  They addressed that this morning on SiriusXM, if the set up is to counter an argument about Wisconsin's schedule by sticking some opponents in.  The computers say the Big Ten should have 6 teams ranked, but that it should be Michigan, not Northwestern.  Granted computers have Northwestern #27, so it's not way off, and they have two wins (MSU and Iowa) better than UM's best win (Purdue).  But I'm shocked Michigan is still out.  They also don't have anything resembling a bad loss, while Northwestern's loss (in blowout fashion) to Duke looks really bad.
Considering NW beat MSU, I'm not complaining.  Not saying they aren't one of the best 25, just that I'm not sure their resume merits it yet.

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Re: Iowa (3-3, 6-3) at Wisconsin (5-0, 9-0) Game Week
« Reply #19 on: November 09, 2017, 01:07:29 AM »
I like UW at home, but expect a battle.
The road team won the last six games in this series. I went to Barry Alvarez's final home game. Iowa won. These teams really don't care whose stadium the game is played in. They like sending the home team fans home dejected.
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It will be interesting to see how Stanley reacts, going up against the home-state school. There should be no animosity/revenge, as Chryst tried like hell to get him to stay home once he got hired, but it was too late.

This is by far his biggest road test to date, methinks.

I really wish he would have stayed home. Didn't his parent(s) go to Iowa? Pretty sure I read that somewhere and that it was a big factor in his decision.
Nate Stanley's father was from Illinois; Mother from Wellsburg, Iowa. Parents attended Wartburg College in Waverly Iowa where they met. Go Mom!

Paul Chryst recruited him to Pitt. Anderson didn't want him. Grew up an hour away from a Gopher Hole. They  weren't interested. Well Iowa showed first interest, and when Wisconsin made their final plea after  Chryst was hired at Wisconsin, Nate Stanely said his word, is his word. Sorry, Paul. http://www.twincities.com/2017/10/25/gophers-werent-interested-in-menomonies-nate-stanley-hell-start-against-them-saturday/

Stanley also enjoyed the Iowa football camp. And, I think the boy has done well for himself at Iowa. It was a very good decision for him, judging by last week's results. The question that should be asked is where were Harbaugh and Meyer? Safe to say, not in Menomine on a Friday night, or any other night.
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Re: #20 Iowa (3-3, 6-3) at #8 Wisconsin (5-0, 9-0) Game Week
« Reply #20 on: November 09, 2017, 09:13:46 AM »
The week before what was supposed to be Wisconsin's stiffest test prior to Indianapolis, comes...perhaps Wisconsin's stiffest test prior to Indianapolis.  The Hawkeyes are being viewed in a whole different light after mopping the floor with Ohio State a week ago.  While Iowa is 6-3, all 3 losses have come to ranked teams, two on the road, and in overtime (Northwestern), on the last play of the game (Penn State), and by 7 (Michigan State).  What remains to be seen though is if Iowa can take that Kinnick magic on the road with them.  Getting big wins in Iowa City has never been the obstacle, it's getting them on the road.  Two years ago the Hawkeyes came into Camp Randall and beat #19 Wisconsin to take the Heartland Trophy, and begin to get attention in a season that saw them reach the Big Ten title game, and as high as #3 in the national polls.  Aside from Jack Cichy in the preseason, Wisconsin hasn't suffered the type of marquee injury that changes perceptions, but seemingly each week a new guy or two gets added, to the point now that the list is the most unfriendly in the conference, and now they've added perhaps the biggest name since Cichy to that list in WR Quintez Cephus, the team's leading receiver, and 7th in the Big Ten in receiving yardage.  Only Rutgers passes at a lower frequency than Wisconsin, so it's not like losing Jonathan Taylor, but he's the one guy that could consistently stretch the field with Jazz Peavy already out.  A.J. Taylor stepped up already in Cephus' absence late against Indiana last week, with 3 catches for a career high 63 yards, and even got a carry.  But going from Cephus to Taylor costs them about 3 inches, with the 5'10" Taylor.  As for the other Taylor, Jonathan, he has gone from making the Silver Football race interesting, to probably being the leader, after Barkley has disappeared from Penn State's offense, and Barrett had himself a massive clunker last weekend.  He's leading the conference in rushing by about 40 ypg over Karan Higdon.  To have any shot Iowa needs the Nathan Stanley from last week to return.  The overall numbers for Wisconsin's pass defense look ok, at 191.3 ypg allowed, actually leading the conference at 5.6 ypa allowed.  Take a closer look at opposition though.  Against Clayton Thorson, Tanner Lee and Richard Lagow, the Badgers are surrendering 235.6 ypg; while Elijah Sindelar, Max Bortenschlager and Jeff George Jr. combined to average 129.3 ypg.  I think Nathan Stanley certainly belongs more in that first group.  The trouble is, he hasn't performed there week in and week out.
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Re: #20 Iowa (3-3, 6-3) at #8 Wisconsin (5-0, 9-0) Game Week
« Reply #21 on: November 09, 2017, 09:18:46 AM »
The road team won the last six games in this series. I went to Barry Alvarez's final home game. Iowa won. These teams really don't care whose stadium the game is played in. They like sending the home team fans home dejected.

I'm not trying to be rude or hateful, but man do I dislike that you brought up that game. God that sucked. 

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Re: #20 Iowa (3-3, 6-3) at #8 Wisconsin (5-0, 9-0) Game Week
« Reply #22 on: November 09, 2017, 10:23:20 AM »
road team winning the last 6 is impressive, but ya really can't expect that streak to last at Camp Randall
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Re: #20 Iowa (3-3, 6-3) at #8 Wisconsin (5-0, 9-0) Game Week
« Reply #23 on: November 09, 2017, 11:22:24 AM »
Confirmed Cephus is done for the year.

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Re: #20 Iowa (3-3, 6-3) at #8 Wisconsin (5-0, 9-0) Game Week
« Reply #24 on: November 09, 2017, 11:32:32 AM »
Confirmed Cephus is done for the year.
Yep, very sad for the kid. He has overcome so much this year, including losing his father to murder during Spring Ball.

You have to wonder how much a kid can take and not break.
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Re: #20 Iowa (3-3, 6-3) at #8 Wisconsin (6-0, 9-0) Game Week
« Reply #25 on: November 09, 2017, 09:12:22 PM »
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Re: #20 Iowa (3-3, 6-3) at #8 Wisconsin (6-0, 9-0) Game Week
« Reply #26 on: November 09, 2017, 09:33:19 PM »
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Re: #20 Iowa (3-4, 6-4) at #8 Wisconsin (7-0, 10-0) Post game
« Reply #27 on: November 12, 2017, 11:23:09 AM »
Iowa got 14 points on pick-6 plays. If UW wants to do well moving forward, that can't happen. The Iowa offense scored.. zero and had 60 or so total YARDS in the game. But Iowa was in the game in the 3rd quarter.

UW had 6 turnovers on the day, and they won. Again, if UW wants to do well moving forward, that can't happen.
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