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Topic: #18 Wisconsin (2-1) at Iowa (3-0) Game Week

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Re: #18 Wisconsin (2-1) at Iowa (3-0) Game Week
« Reply #70 on: September 21, 2018, 01:49:06 PM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on September 21, 2018, 01:18:19 PM
If Iowa runs the table, they are in. Even from that vantage point, it is far from a meaningless game.
Completely agree. But I think this conversation is less about that reality than the deterioration in mindset that would allow a talking head say this. Now, of course we shouldn't care what a talking head is saying. I don't think we are. I think this conversation is happening because that perspective has become PERVASIVE, which is a real drag, and if it's not just from a stray talking head but from a sizable chunk of people, the sport has a sickness that we can easily see and point to with a stick.
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Re: #18 Wisconsin (2-1) at Iowa (3-0) Game Week
« Reply #71 on: September 21, 2018, 01:59:13 PM »
Personally I'm not worried about the talking heads and jabber jocks. 

I like a lot of match ups that most people don't.
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Re: #18 Wisconsin (2-1) at Iowa (3-0) Game Week
« Reply #72 on: September 21, 2018, 02:19:24 PM »
That's what I'm saying. This conversation doesn't care about them either. 
This conversation is about the problems of CFB becoming "NC or bust" and how that's an increasingly common bummer of a perspective.
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Re: #18 Wisconsin (2-1) at Iowa (3-0) Game Week
« Reply #73 on: September 21, 2018, 02:45:14 PM »
Meh. Talking heads gonna talking head.
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Re: #18 Wisconsin (2-1) at Iowa (3-0) Game Week
« Reply #74 on: September 21, 2018, 02:49:03 PM »
glad I became a fan in the 70's

gives me a better appreciation of games like this one.

My KSU Wildcat fan friend Skicat will be watching.  He enjoys slobberknockers that are played and won in the trenches
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Re: #18 Wisconsin (2-1) at Iowa (3-0) Game Week
« Reply #75 on: September 21, 2018, 02:52:22 PM »
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Re: #18 Wisconsin (2-1) at Iowa (3-0) Game Week
« Reply #76 on: September 21, 2018, 02:55:44 PM »
No different than "Rose Bowl or bust" really.
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Re: #18 Wisconsin (2-1) at Iowa (3-0) Game Week
« Reply #77 on: September 21, 2018, 02:57:01 PM »
The thing about THs is that they are nothing without an audience.  I've stated many times how I get far better analysis around here.

A TH can claim this or that but it doesn't change anything in the real world, it's just talk, from a head.  On TV.

Fans should be independent enough to decide on their own what matters to them.

All the talk about who is in the lead for the Heisman these days is revolting to me, so I ignore it.
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Re: #18 Wisconsin (2-1) at Iowa (3-0) Game Week
« Reply #78 on: September 21, 2018, 02:58:03 PM »
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Re: #18 Wisconsin (2-1) at Iowa (3-0) Game Week
« Reply #79 on: September 21, 2018, 03:06:49 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on September 21, 2018, 02:57:01 PM
The thing about THs is that they are nothing without an audience.  I've stated many times how I get far better analysis around here.

A TH can claim this or that but it doesn't change anything in the real world, it's just talk, from a head.  On TV.

Fans should be independent enough to decide on their own what matters to them.

All the talk about who is in the lead for the Heisman these days is revolting to me, so I ignore it.
That's what I'm getting at. CFB is whatever you want it to be. You can't control the masses, but you can control yourself. If you'd rather zero in on the conference races or the rivalry games and tune out the rest of the noise, then that is still available. Of course my perspective is coming from the vantage point of someone who doesn't particularly feel the need to be part of a crowd. I'm perfectly content doing my own thing.
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Re: #18 Wisconsin (2-1) at Iowa (3-0) Game Week
« Reply #80 on: September 21, 2018, 03:23:37 PM »
That said, this match up is probably a "bigger deal" today, since it essentially decides the B1G West most years. I doubt it was played to much fanfare outside of IA and WI in the pre-BCS era.
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Re: #18 Wisconsin (2-1) at Iowa (3-0) Game Week
« Reply #81 on: September 21, 2018, 03:31:14 PM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on September 21, 2018, 02:55:44 PM
No different than "Rose Bowl or bust" really.
It's entirely different. That's the archetype for respecting the regular season.
In that system, every game matters because multi-loss champions are *always* taken over one-loss non-champs. And it's a perspective that originally paired with an impossibility of intraconference rematches.
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Re: #18 Wisconsin (2-1) at Iowa (3-0) Game Week
« Reply #82 on: September 21, 2018, 03:56:46 PM »
The Rose Bowl selection had it's warts. A worse team would go over a better one, simply because they hadn't been there in a long time. 
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Re: #18 Wisconsin (2-1) at Iowa (3-0) Game Week
« Reply #83 on: September 21, 2018, 04:00:53 PM »
I do agree that only Conference Champions should be eligible. I've been banging that drum sice the BCS era.
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