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Topic: #16 Michigan (3-2, 5-2) at #7 Penn State (4-0, 7-0) Post Game

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Re: #16 Michigan (5-1, 3-1) at #7 Penn State (6-0, 3-0) Game Week
« Reply #70 on: October 19, 2019, 11:56:02 AM »
I fully agree that JT is the best TB UW has ever had. Sorry Ron.

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Re: #16 Michigan (5-1, 3-1) at #7 Penn State (6-0, 3-0) Game Week
« Reply #71 on: October 19, 2019, 11:59:58 AM »
I fully agree that JT is the best TB UW has ever had. Sorry Ron.

I dream about one more year of him, but if he doesn't come out early, he's nuts. Can always go back and finish school later.
he has that track speed that translates to field speed that Ron never had.

I'd be shocked if he sticks around. He should be a top 5-10 pick imo. Would be better for him though if he drops and Kansas City picks him up at 28-32. Imagine JT with Mahomes and those WR's and Andy Reid callingg the plays. JESUS.

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Re: #16 Michigan (5-1, 3-1) at #7 Penn State (6-0, 3-0) Game Week
« Reply #72 on: October 19, 2019, 09:55:19 PM »
should have give him more touches today
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Re: #16 Michigan (5-1, 3-1) at #7 Penn State (6-0, 3-0) Game Week
« Reply #73 on: October 20, 2019, 11:51:14 AM »
I’m curious on people’s take on Michigan’s clock management on their final drive? From my seat, it felt like they were managing the game like it was tied and they had to drive down the field for a final score instead of a team that needed two scores to win. That doesn’t change a dropped pass in the endzone or failure to get a 3rd down stop, but it felt like they wasted a lot of time.

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Re: #16 Michigan (5-1, 3-1) at #7 Penn State (6-0, 3-0) Game Week
« Reply #74 on: October 21, 2019, 07:37:20 AM »
I felt the refs early on spotted the Nitts a couple big plays related to pass interference including a TD.  Tough fought game.
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Re: #16 Michigan (5-1, 3-1) at #7 Penn State (6-0, 3-0) Game Week
« Reply #75 on: October 21, 2019, 12:26:12 PM »
I’m curious on people’s take on Michigan’s clock management on their final drive? From my seat, it felt like they were managing the game like it was tied and they had to drive down the field for a final score instead of a team that needed two scores to win. That doesn’t change a dropped pass in the endzone or failure to get a 3rd down stop, but it felt like they wasted a lot of time.
Harbaugh and clock management is an oxymoron.

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Re: #16 Michigan (3-2, 5-2) at #7 Penn State (4-0, 7-0) Post Game
« Reply #76 on: October 21, 2019, 12:39:42 PM »
I’m curious on people’s take on Michigan’s clock management on their final drive? From my seat, it felt like they were managing the game like it was tied and they had to drive down the field for a final score instead of a team that needed two scores to win. That doesn’t change a dropped pass in the endzone or failure to get a 3rd down stop, but it felt like they wasted a lot of time.
I didn't think it was bad - I think at that point you roll with your offense and try to play for overtime if need be.  It wasn't like last year against ND where they were down two scores and were lollygagging around.

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Re: #16 Michigan (3-2, 5-2) at #7 Penn State (4-0, 7-0) Post Game
« Reply #77 on: October 21, 2019, 01:41:20 PM »
I didn't think it was bad - I think at that point you roll with your offense and try to play for overtime if need be.  It wasn't like last year against ND where they were down two scores and were lollygagging around.
Felt like I was watching a Cleveland Browns game Saturday night with lack of discipline and poor play calling. Even if they are playing for a tie and going to OT, it's poor clock management because they would have left too much time on the clock. Either play efficiently and plan on scoring so you have a chance to get the ball back or drain the entire clock out. It's like they were stuck in the middle. 

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Re: #16 Michigan (3-2, 5-2) at #7 Penn State (4-0, 7-0) Post Game
« Reply #78 on: October 24, 2019, 01:31:10 PM »
I know it is late, but I've been busy.

Some thoughts:

1.  With the exception of Bell, Michigan's wide receivers are not good. I almost bought into the hype.  However, after seeing them again, I'm more sure than ever.  They must have dropped at least 8 passes. Bell is the only receiver that is able to improvise and help the QB.  Bell is also excellent at getting yards after the catch.  The other guys--not so much.  Hopefully Bell isn't getting too much grief for his lone dropped pass at the end of the game, in which he had to improvise and come back to the QB as Shea was running for his life.

2.  The refs were NOT good, but this time it benefited Penn State.  (Except for maybe the QB sneak on 4th down, that looked pretty short to me.)  Other than that, PSU got a disproportionate number of calls in their favor. 

3.  Penn State seemed to run their offense through KJ Hamler.  He's a great football player and it makes sense to get him the ball, but they need to target the other wide receivers more.  Dotson and Freiermuth were open quite a bit, but it was as if Clifford wasn't looking in their direction.

4.  The white out atmosphere is real.  Michigan was probably the better team, but they spotted PSU 21 points in the early going.  I have never seen a time out called before the first play of the game before..

5.  Shea Patterson was good all night, but he was REALLY good in the second half.  I don't think he's nearly as horrible as some Michigan fans have made him out to be.

6.  That was the best Penn State's offensive line has played all season. 

7.  Clifford is still a young QB, and it shows.  He gets happy feet when he's rattled.  But he is getting better...

8.  I don't think that Penn State is the 2nd best team in the conference..  Would you really favor them if they played Michigan again at home?  Or against Wisconsin?  Heck, even this game at Michigan State is a coin flip, IMO.  Most predicted Penn State would finish the year with 3 to 4 losses, and with the brutal schedule they have, it is still quite likely. 

9.  Penn State has a LOT of injuries in the secondary.  Franklin doesn't talk about injuries, but they have burned the redshirts of two freshman now.  Maybe that's not a huge problem against Michigan State, but it certainly means that the upcoming Indiana game is more of a concern.

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Re: #16 Michigan (3-2, 5-2) at #7 Penn State (4-0, 7-0) Post Game
« Reply #79 on: October 24, 2019, 02:09:39 PM »
I know it is late, but I've been busy.

8.  I don't think that Penn State is the 2nd best team in the conference..  Would you really favor them if they played Michigan again at home?  Or against Wisconsin?  Heck, even this game at Michigan State is a coin flip, IMO.  Most predicted Penn State would finish the year with 3 to 4 losses, and with the brutal schedule they have, it is still quite likely. 
Likely?  @Michigan State, @Minnesota, vs. Indiana, @Ohio State, vs. Rutgers

I'd say 9-3 is possible, 10-2 or 11-1 is likely.

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Re: #16 Michigan (3-2, 5-2) at #7 Penn State (4-0, 7-0) Post Game
« Reply #80 on: October 24, 2019, 09:55:58 PM »
Likely?  @Michigan State, @Minnesota, vs. Indiana, @Ohio State, vs. Rutgers

I'd say 9-3 is possible, 10-2 or 11-1 is likely.
Given the high probability of an OSU loss, and the coin flip nature of the other 3, I think you're probably right.  Let me change my mind now.  

I'm almost certain that there are 2 losses coming up.

 

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