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Topic: #15 Wisconsin (2-1, 4-2) at #12 Michigan (4-0, 6-1) Post Game

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Re: #15 Wisconsin (2-0, 4-1) at #12 Michigan (3-0, 5-1) Game Week
« Reply #42 on: October 10, 2018, 09:40:49 AM »
Michigan is thin at DT due to injuries.  Thin enough where I think the rotation at DT will be impacted.  I'm expecting to see the Badgers try to run the ball up the gut at some point in the game (shocking, no?) to see if Michigan can stop it.  If Michigan has to bring up a safety to stop the run it will open up things for Hornibrook.  
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Re: #15 Wisconsin (2-0, 4-1) at #12 Michigan (3-0, 5-1) Game Week
« Reply #43 on: October 10, 2018, 09:52:32 AM »
I'll be rooting for Wisconsin, but it is difficult to see a path to victory. That offense isn't going to move at all against this D. 
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Re: #15 Wisconsin (2-0, 4-1) at #12 Michigan (3-0, 5-1) Game Week
« Reply #44 on: October 10, 2018, 10:15:10 AM »
Quote from: Honestbuckeye on October 10, 2018, 08:26:17 AM
Not really. I am talking about Hornibrook and Patterson stats that were presented here.
If that’s not allowed in this football forum I will excuse myself.
Who pissed in your Wheaties  lately?
I don't eat Wheaties, but maybe I should. I've just noticed a lot of pooping in threads lately, but it's cool. Just don't be surprised it I call it out, as a little nudge, so to speak. Don't be so sensative. That's for Texans, like @utee94 .
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Re: #15 Wisconsin (2-0, 4-1) at #12 Michigan (3-0, 5-1) Game Week
« Reply #45 on: October 10, 2018, 10:15:39 AM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on October 10, 2018, 09:52:32 AM
I'll be rooting for Wisconsin, but it is difficult to see a path to victory. That offense isn't going to move at all against this D.
Or an asteroid?
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Re: #15 Wisconsin (2-0, 4-1) at #12 Michigan (3-0, 5-1) Game Week
« Reply #46 on: October 10, 2018, 10:16:38 AM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on October 10, 2018, 08:47:01 AM
The answer to that question is bad
Eh, I think more like "not good" is appropriate. He used to be bad but he has gotten better at it.
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Re: #15 Wisconsin (2-0, 4-1) at #12 Michigan (3-0, 5-1) Game Week
« Reply #47 on: October 10, 2018, 10:48:11 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on October 10, 2018, 10:15:39 AM
Or an asteroid?
No, not an asteroid. Or even a meteorite. 
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Re: #15 Wisconsin (2-0, 4-1) at #12 Michigan (3-0, 5-1) Game Week
« Reply #48 on: October 10, 2018, 11:12:15 AM »
Quote from: Honestbuckeye on October 10, 2018, 07:20:40 AM
That’s how they calculate them?..
Or, are you saying they don’t take strength of opponent into consideration.
I mean the matchup of the two best quarterbacks
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Re: #15 Wisconsin (2-0, 4-1) at #12 Michigan (3-0, 5-1) Game Week
« Reply #49 on: October 10, 2018, 11:32:04 AM »
Quote from: MaximumSam on October 10, 2018, 07:16:25 AM
Fairly certain we already know, and it was in Happy Valley a week and a half ago
With McSorley's comp% hovering a centimeter abover 50%, I'm not at all sure any duel with him is guaranteed to have the conference's two best QBs. And so far Haskins, albeit great at it, has been permitted to feast with short throws and enormous YAC (see attached).
Even without PFF grading Hornibrook highest (and here I should admit that their rankings are not opponent-adjusted), I stick with the original claim. We can't know it until the end of the season. 
It could easily end up as Haskins-McSorley, Hornibrook-Patterson, McSorley-Hornibrook, Patterson-Haskins, or even Hornibrook-Haskins in a CCG. They are all in striking range and up there and season is 50% (or less) over (depending on schedule).
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Re: #15 Wisconsin (2-0, 4-1) at #12 Michigan (3-0, 5-1) Game Week
« Reply #50 on: October 10, 2018, 11:38:49 AM »
Hb were you trying to quote me on that long post about Haskins where it just ended up quoting you? 

I think you are misunderstanding the adjusted deep pass rating. Has nothing to do with velocity. It’s just distance. They only look at passes that travel over 20 yards in the air from the LOS and rank that and that alone. They are strictly looking at the accuracy of balls thrown 20+ yards in the air from the LoS. 
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Re: #15 Wisconsin (2-0, 4-1) at #12 Michigan (3-0, 5-1) Game Week
« Reply #51 on: October 10, 2018, 11:43:11 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on October 10, 2018, 10:15:10 AM
I don't eat Wheaties, but maybe I should. I've just noticed a lot of pooping in threads lately, but it's cool. Just don't be surprised it I call it out, as a little nudge, so to speak. Don't be so sensative. That's for Texans, like @utee94 .
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Re: #15 Wisconsin (2-0, 4-1) at #12 Michigan (3-0, 5-1) Game Week
« Reply #52 on: October 10, 2018, 11:46:03 AM »
Btw. Just an idea of how insane Patterson’s deep adjusted rating is...if the season ended today, his rating on deep passes would be the 2nd highest PFF has ever graded. The highest? Baker Mayfield’s 2017 season which was 62.5% on deep passes.
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Re: #15 Wisconsin (2-0, 4-1) at #12 Michigan (3-0, 5-1) Game Week
« Reply #53 on: October 10, 2018, 11:48:24 AM »
Quote from: Anonymous Coward on October 10, 2018, 11:32:04 AM
With McSorley's comp% hovering a centimeter abover 50%, I'm not at all sure any duel with him is guaranteed to have the conference's two best QBs. And so far Haskins, albeit great at it, has been permitted to feast with short throws and enormous YAC (see attached).
Even without PFF grading Hornibrook highest (and here I should admit that their rankings are not opponent-adjusted), I stick with the original claim. We can't know it until the end of the season.
It could easily end up as Haskins-McSorley, Hornibrook-Patterson, McSorley-Hornibrook, Patterson-Haskins, or even Hornibrook-Haskins in a CCG. They are all in striking range and up there and season is 50% (or less) over (depending on schedule).

Simply a false narrative.  Haskins has completed more passes of 20 yards into the end zone than either QBs
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Re: #15 Wisconsin (2-0, 4-1) at #12 Michigan (3-0, 5-1) Game Week
« Reply #54 on: October 10, 2018, 11:51:09 AM »
Hb have you charted every single one of Haskins throws? 

We’re not talking throws into the end zone. We’re talking throws of 20 yards or more in the air past the LOS. That’s it. 

Haskins has been great but he throws a shit ton of short balls his receivers gain YAC on. 
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Re: #15 Wisconsin (2-0, 4-1) at #12 Michigan (3-0, 5-1) Game Week
« Reply #55 on: October 10, 2018, 11:52:28 AM »
Paterson by the way has now thrown more td passes in 6 games than Michigan’s QBs in 2017 threw all season in 13 games. Lol.

And he’s completing 15% higher % of this throws than Michigan’s QBs in 2017.
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