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Topic: #15 Run-off Tiebreaker Vote

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OrangeAfroMan

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#15 Run-off Tiebreaker Vote
« on: June 23, 2018, 07:52:07 PM »
We had a tie, so hopefully this will break the tie.  
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Re: #15 Run-off Tiebreaker Vote
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2018, 08:42:33 PM »
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Re: #15 Run-off Tiebreaker Vote
« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2018, 11:42:19 AM »
sorry.. homer vote.  =)

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Re: #15 Run-off Tiebreaker Vote
« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2018, 05:00:11 PM »
Husker Prick Squad rides again!
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Re: #15 Run-off Tiebreaker Vote
« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2018, 06:16:30 PM »
Rushing stats only:

Frazier - 1,955 yds.....5.7 ypc....36 TD
Tebow  - 2,947 yds.....4.3 ypc....57 TD

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Re: #15 Run-off Tiebreaker Vote
« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2018, 06:21:57 PM »
Rushing stats only:

Frazier - 1,955 yds.....5.7 ypc....36 TD
Tebow  - 2,947 yds.....4.3 ypc....57 TD


What about 75-yard runs vs. Florida, huh? 

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Re: #15 Run-off Tiebreaker Vote
« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2018, 09:26:52 PM »
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Re: #15 Run-off Tiebreaker Vote
« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2018, 03:44:12 AM »
Hmmm, let's see.  Originally we had Frazier, Tebow, and Brees, didn't we?

Passing:
Brees - 61.1% comp, 7.0 ypa, 90 TD, 45 Int, 132.5 rating
Tebow- 66.4% comp, 9.3 ypa, 88 TD, 16 Int, 170.8 rating

Rushing (again):
Frazier - 1,955 yds, 5.7 ypc, 36 TD
Tebow  - 2,947 yds, 4.3 ypc, 57 TD

25% of the voters picked Brees over Tebow.  37.5% picked Frazier over him.  62.5% of voters picked against Tebow.  I guess he's not the best to ever wear #15.
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Re: #15 Run-off Tiebreaker Vote
« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2018, 08:14:26 AM »
Sometimes people are influenced by things like,  3 time MNC bowl game MVP, the first of which he was on the losing team.

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Re: #15 Run-off Tiebreaker Vote
« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2018, 10:07:16 AM »
Yeah, 2 natties each
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Re: #15 Run-off Tiebreaker Vote
« Reply #10 on: June 27, 2018, 11:53:02 AM »
TF essentially missed his junior year as well, playing in only three "complete" games. 

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Re: #15 Run-off Tiebreaker Vote
« Reply #11 on: June 27, 2018, 10:31:01 PM »
I think we get these idealized ideas in our minds about certain players.  Frazier could run and he limited his interceptions.  He was a good passer for an option QB.  But that yields a sub-50 completion percentage.  Tebow could run.  Most rushing TDs in SEC history.  And he still remains the 4th most efficient QB in college football history (with a high volume of pass attempts).

Simplified, it's a guy who could run vs a guy who could run and pass.  It's easy.  But it's not, evidently.
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Re: #15 Run-off Tiebreaker Vote
« Reply #12 on: June 27, 2018, 10:38:53 PM »
I'm obviously not completely objective here, but I'm not sure what else Tebow would have had to do in order to win this silly little competition.  He has wins.  Rings.  Volume.  Scoring.  Efficiency.  What is he lacking?  What more could he have done?  

The one year he didn't start, he scored 13 combined TDs.  Florida doesn't win the MNC in '06 w/o him.  The one year he didn't go 13-1, he scored 55 combined TDs and won the Heisman.  In his non-Heisman years, Florida went 39-3.  He led Florida to a 13-1 record with Percy Harvin and then still 13-1 without him.

He did a lot just to lose out to the mythology of Tommie Frazier, huh?  Is Mt. Olympus in Nebraska?
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Re: #15 Run-off Tiebreaker Vote
« Reply #13 on: June 28, 2018, 10:17:25 AM »
I suppose Osborne could have called QB sneaks each time the team got inside the 5 yard line to run up Frazier's TD numbers, but............

then Tommie wouldn't have 5.7 yards per carry - including sacks

maybe Tebow should have played at Nebraska - helmet status!
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