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Topic: #15 Michigan (1-1) at #18 Oklahoma (2-0) Post Game

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utee94

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Re: #15 Michigan Wolverines (1-0) at #18 Oklahoma Sooners (1-0) Game Week
« Reply #28 on: September 03, 2025, 11:39:12 AM »
it's a retarded rule and needs to be done away with.

Barham got in trouble for the crime of being 6'3"+ and tackling a QB who is a lot smaller than he is.


https://twitter.com/PatrickBattle18/status/1961992336927334911


This is a stupid tweet.  The rule clearly and explicitly does not require launch, or leading with the crown of the helmet.  Those are two potential issues, but not the only two.  As written, and as the rule has been called for years, that was targeting.

I do agree that the rule itself probably should not apply in many instances like this, but not I'm not sure how to legislate that into the game without making it even more subjective and confusing.

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Re: #15 Michigan Wolverines (1-0) at #18 Oklahoma Sooners (1-0) Game Week
« Reply #29 on: September 03, 2025, 11:40:12 AM »
I was shocked when no official called it on the field.
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Re: #15 Michigan Wolverines (1-0) at #18 Oklahoma Sooners (1-0) Game Week
« Reply #30 on: September 03, 2025, 11:42:32 AM »
"Michigan edge rusher TJ Guy says LB Jaishawn Barham will return in the second half against Oklahoma and “fuck shit up, for real.”

Spoken like a true Student-Athlete attending Ann Arbor Community College


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you're above a low brow post. Unless you want to discuss the tone set further down 71 how players aren't there to play school?

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Re: #15 Michigan Wolverines (1-0) at #18 Oklahoma Sooners (1-0) Game Week
« Reply #31 on: September 03, 2025, 11:44:02 AM »

I realize Michigan fans don't believe rules apply to them, or believe that when they've flagrantly violated a rule that it's a bad rule and it's the rule's fault... And that even when they do violate the rules they should never, EVER, be punished for it.

Your posts are good most of the time. Then you post something stupid like this. 

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Re: #15 Michigan Wolverines (1-0) at #18 Oklahoma Sooners (1-0) Game Week
« Reply #32 on: September 03, 2025, 11:44:41 AM »
He went facemask to facemask which is helmet to helmet.  It's going to get called every time, at least when it comes to a defender attacking a quarterback in drop-back posture.
Buckeye friend of mine said it best yesterday.  According to specifically how the rule is written and in place, it was targeting. That being said, the tackle is a perfect example of why the rule needs to be fixed because that tackle should not be targeting.
Tough to call when bang-bang and depending which way players are twisting/turning,many times not the intent
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Re: #15 Michigan Wolverines (1-0) at #18 Oklahoma Sooners (1-0) Game Week
« Reply #33 on: September 03, 2025, 11:47:01 AM »
you're above a low brow post. Unless you want to discuss the tone set further down 7 how players aren't there to play school?
Not really that comment belongs to a michigan player that should show some class - providing he attends them. Collectively - across the board have to quit lowering the bar. He probably should sit another quarter after comments like that. I mean “fuck shit up, for real.” that's turning into Hurraganstas mind set right there
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Re: #15 Michigan Wolverines (1-0) at #18 Oklahoma Sooners (1-0) Game Week
« Reply #34 on: September 03, 2025, 11:48:58 AM »
Tough to call when bang-bang and depending which way players are twisting/turning,many times not the intent
Yeah I totally agree.  And the problem is, intent is so hard to determine.  It's totally subjective.

Sometimes we see a defender launch himself like a missile, leading with the helmet, and the intent is pretty obviously to cause serious destruction.

Sometimes the case is like this, where it seems like the intent is a just a good hard tackle, but he still initiated contact with his helmet, and hit the QB in the helmet.  

The thing is, even in the latter case, serious injury can be caused to the QB, despite the intent probably being a clean hit.

Which is why it's against the rules.

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Re: #15 Michigan Wolverines (1-0) at #18 Oklahoma Sooners (1-0) Game Week
« Reply #35 on: September 03, 2025, 11:57:44 AM »
apparently, the call wasn't reversed by the Big Ten office after the appeal.

or have they not replied?

it was targeting
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Re: #15 Michigan Wolverines (1-0) at #18 Oklahoma Sooners (1-0) Game Week
« Reply #36 on: September 03, 2025, 12:03:51 PM »
This is a stupid tweet.  The rule clearly and explicitly does not require launch, or leading with the crown of the helmet.  Those are two potential issues, but not the only two.  As written, and as the rule has been called for years, that was targeting.

I do agree that the rule itself probably should not apply in many instances like this, but not I'm not sure how to legislate that into the game without making it even more subjective and confusing.
it's a stupid tweet. and an even more stupid rule. 

there should only be a rule against intentionally lowering the head and using the crown of a helmet as a weapon. that's it. 

this is tackle fucking football. enough with turning it into a game for fucking pussies.

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Re: #15 Michigan Wolverines (1-0) at #18 Oklahoma Sooners (1-0) Game Week
« Reply #37 on: September 03, 2025, 12:05:05 PM »
Your posts are good most of the time. Then you post something stupid like this.
he's a Purdue fan. his team sucks royally and with the way the new system operates with NIL/portal, playoff, his team is going to probably suck for eternity now. let the poors take their shots at the rich. i don't mind it.

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Re: #15 Michigan Wolverines (1-0) at #18 Oklahoma Sooners (1-0) Game Week
« Reply #38 on: September 03, 2025, 12:06:01 PM »
it's a stupid tweet. and an even more stupid rule.

there should only be a rule against intentionally lowering the head and using the crown of a helmet as a weapon. that's it.

this is tackle fucking football. enough with turning it into a game for fucking pussies.
I don't agree with that.  Plenty of damage can be done to a defenseless QB when you hit him in the head and neck area without lowering the head and using the crown.

In fact, the "crown of the helmet" rules were actually originally created to protect the defender from injuring his own neck and spinal cord.  It didn't have anything to do with targeting a defenseless player.

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Re: #15 Michigan Wolverines (1-0) at #18 Oklahoma Sooners (1-0) Game Week
« Reply #39 on: September 03, 2025, 12:06:53 PM »
apparently, the call wasn't reversed by the Big Ten office after the appeal.

or have they not replied?

it was targeting
B1G agreed with Michigan. the B1G doesn't rule on the appeal. NCAA does. good luck with that lol.

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Re: #15 Michigan Wolverines (1-0) at #18 Oklahoma Sooners (1-0) Game Week
« Reply #40 on: September 03, 2025, 12:08:27 PM »
so, a Big Ten officiating crew won't be calling that targeting going forward or shouldn't?

I'm ok with that
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Re: #15 Michigan Wolverines (1-0) at #18 Oklahoma Sooners (1-0) Game Week
« Reply #41 on: September 03, 2025, 12:09:39 PM »
Generally, the visiting team brings its own officials.

There were MAC officials in Madison last week.
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