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Topic: #15 Michigan State (1-0) vs. Western Michigan (0-1) Post Game

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ELA

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#15 Michigan State (1-0) vs. Western Michigan (0-1) Post Game
« on: August 31, 2022, 10:33:45 AM »
Western Michigan Broncos at #15 Michigan State Spartans
(Fri) 7:00 - East Lansing, MI - ESPN
While Western Michigan has probably been the most consistent of the directional Michigan MAC schools over recent history, it's Central Michigan who has upset the Spartans a few times, in 1991, 1992, and 2009.  Michigan State has won 12 straight against the Broncos, dating back to 1919.  Maybe it's something that happens once a pandemic.  The Spartans probably dodged a bullet in playing Western Michigan in 2013, 2015, 2017, and 2019, but not in 2016, when the Broncos beat a pair of Big Ten teams (Northwestern and Illinois), and went to the Cotton Bowl, where they lost by just 8 to a third (Wisconsin), while Michigan State went 3-9, their worst season since 1982.  This Western Michigan team is not the 2016 team, and isn't even really the 2021 team, which beat Pitt in September.  The 2021 Broncos could give this Michigan State secondary some major issues.  Unfortunately, both quarterback Kaleb Eleby and star receiver Skyy Moore left early for the NFL Draft, gutting the Bronco passing game.  Redshirt freshman Jack Salopek won an open battle to be the new starting quarterback, holding off former Alabama walk on Stone Hollenbach.  But it's not just Moore, with his 95 receptions and 1,300 yards gone from the weapons.  #2 WR Jaylen Hall transferred to Western Kentucky, starting TE Anthony Torres transferred to Toledo, WR Bryce Nunnelly, who also served as the return specialist, and #2 TE Brett Borske, both graduated.  Corey Crooms is the only returning WR/TE who caught a pass last year.  They do return both parts of their two headed backfield, Sean Tyler and MSU transfer La'Darius Jefferson, who combined for 1,986 rushing yards and 21 touchdowns.  The problem is you beat the Spartans through the air, Purdue and Ohio State showed that.  The run defense was #11 in the nation in rushing ypg allowed, and #12 in ypc.  And it's not like those two performed well against Power 5 defenses, even ones who weren't as good as Michigan State's against the run, averaging just 3.5 ypc against Michigan and Pitt last year.
MICHIGAN STATE 42, WESTERN MICHIGAN 17

« Last Edit: September 02, 2022, 11:41:34 PM by ELA »

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Re: #15 Michigan State vs. Western Michigan Game Week
« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2022, 10:36:38 AM »
Also worth noting that Payton Thorne was originally committed to Western Michigan, but flipped once MSU offered him, after MSU's QB commit, D'Wan Mathis, flipped to OSU.  And Jayden Reed played his freshman season for WMU before transferring to MSU (back in the pre-portal days, when he sat out the 2019 season)

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Re: #15 Michigan State (1-0) vs. Western Michigan (0-1) Post Game
« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2022, 11:40:40 PM »
Quick takes...

Thorne needs to be a lot better.  A lot of his yards were Just throwing the ball up and trusting his guy to make a play. That's not going to cut it when you aren't playing a MAC team.

The OL looked solid early, but faded hard.

Plethora of skill position players.  There are always injuries, but I almost wonder if there are too many good guys, and not enough great guys. Makes it tough on the coaches to spread the touches around. But it also makes me not worried about injuries at running back, receiver, or tight end.

The offensive transfers again making an impact.  Both running back transfers look good.  Very different from Walker, it is one cut and burst.  TE Barker, the Illinois transfer, was the most impressive offensive player IMO.

The LBs looked elite.  Jacoby Windmon, the MWC DPOTY already looks like the best player on the defense.  And Ben VanSumeran was right there.  Pretty nice when Cal Haladay, the presumed best defensive player in the entire lineup, plays as the third best player in his own position group.  Not just their play, but their presnap communication was something I've never seen from an MSU LB group.  That should serve them well.

The CBs looked maybe better, but not great.  The safeties were non existent

Baringer already had the biggest leg in the conference, but he buried a couple inside the 5.  That was his struggle last year.  If he keeps that up, he might be the best punter in the nation

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Re: #15 Michigan State (1-0) vs. Western Michigan (0-1) Post Game
« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2022, 08:17:51 AM »
May have lost both starting safeties for the season

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Re: #15 Michigan State (1-0) vs. Western Michigan (0-1) Post Game
« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2022, 02:00:18 PM »
WTF

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Re: #15 Michigan State (1-0) vs. Western Michigan (0-1) Post Game
« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2022, 01:15:14 PM »
Confirmed Snow is done for the year


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Re: #15 Michigan State (1-0) vs. Western Michigan (0-1) Post Game
« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2022, 05:59:40 PM »
Just watched this game on B1G Football in 60.  The game was a lot closer than the score indicates.
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Re: #15 Michigan State (1-0) vs. Western Michigan (0-1) Post Game
« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2022, 07:28:12 PM »
The score didn't indicate how close the game was early in the 4th.  The score does indicate that except for one quarter, WMU couldn't do anything on offense 

 

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