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Topic: Powder Rankings Week Two

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medinabuckeye1

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Re: Powder Rankings Week Two
« Reply #28 on: September 11, 2017, 11:36:29 AM »
Quote from: TyphonInc on September 10, 2017, 11:16:13 AM
7) OSU (-3) - Humbling loss, script is easy to beat the Bucks.
Yes, it was a humbling loss.  Yes, the script is easy to beat the Bucks.  That said, I think you are putting them too low here.  Just because the script is easy doesn't mean that anyone can do it.  There is still a LOT of talent in Columbus and they can win a lot of games even without a functional passing game.  
At this point I have no confidence whatsoever in Ohio State's ability to beat Penn State or Michigan because those teams can match (or at least get close to matching tOSU's talent).  However, I think that Ohio State is better than 50/50 to beat Maryland, Iowa, and MSU even without a functional passing game.  Thus, when I do my rankings I will have the Buckeyes at #4.  
Additionally, I'm not very convinced so far by Michigan either.  It seems to me that while their passing game is more likely to do good things it is also more likely to do bad things so that might be a wash.  
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Re: Powder Rankings Week Two
« Reply #29 on: September 11, 2017, 11:49:59 AM »
Quote from: ELA on September 11, 2017, 11:31:44 AM
1995, nice memory.  Difference there was OSU benched their entire offense it seems like, based on the article.  Oregon was still trying and somehow scored 42 in one half, and 0 in the other.

http://www.upi.com/Archives/1995/10/28/Ohio-St-56-Iowa-35/6288814852800/
I remember that game well.  I was in the 'Shoe for it.  Cooper pulled nearly all of the starters at halftime and Iowa beat up Ohio State's backups pretty good in the second half but the game was never in doubt.  That game and OSU's 28-6 win over Penn State in 2006 are my go-to examples of why you shouldn't solely use score differential to determine how close a game was.  Short version:
  • In 1995 Ohio State thoroughly dominated Iowa and led 56-0 before allowing 35 meaningless points to win by 21.  
  • In 2006 Ohio State and PSU played a defensive slugfest for most of the game (the sole difference was that Ohio State's goaline units got two TD's and allowed none while PSU's got none and allowed two).  Then, with Ohio State leading 14-6 Penn State had the ball and a chance to tie and proceeded to throw pick-6's on back-to-back plays leading to Ohio State winning by 22.  
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Re: Powder Rankings Week Two
« Reply #30 on: September 11, 2017, 11:53:29 AM »
  • Penn State 
  • Wisconsin
  • Michigan
  • Ohio State
  • Maryland
  • Iowa
  • Indiana
  • Minnesota
  • Michigan State
  • Nebraska
  • Purdue
  • Illinois
  • Northwestern
  • Rutgers
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Re: Powder Rankings Week Two
« Reply #31 on: September 11, 2017, 12:38:28 PM »
1. Penn State - B1G's pony to bet on to the get into the playoff
2. Michigan - They have the D, but they have a lot of work to do on offense
3. Wisconsin - Business as usual
4. Ohio State - Plenty of time to learn and improve.  B1G title and playoff berth are still there for the taking
5. Iowa - in much better shape with BF calling the shots instead of GDGD.  ISU looks to be trending upwards, but Iowa shouldn't get torched like that
6. Maryland - may be the B1G's surprise team
7. Minnesota - Oregon State is probably one of the 3 weakest Power 5 teams this year (along with Kansas and Rutgers), but the Gophers won on the road in style.  B1G teams aren't known to do that out West, regardless of whom they play
8. Michigan State - at least look improved enough to go bowling
9. Indiana - just good enough to maybe mess up someone's season
10. Nebraska - Nearly came back to at least force OT @ Oregon, but so far it appears neither team is anywhere close to being back yet
11. Northwestern - Looking like the B1G's most disappointing team so far
12. Purdue - This team is showing some signs of life.  I'm going to wait a week or two before I feel moving them higher is justified
13. Illinois - Lovie probably isn't the answer
14. Rutgers - no excuse to lose to EMU at home
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Re: Powder Rankings Week Two
« Reply #32 on: September 11, 2017, 01:07:11 PM »
Quote from: fezzador on September 11, 2017, 12:38:28 PM

....7. Minnesota - Oregon State is probably one of the 3 weakest Power 5 teams this year (along with Kansas and Rutgers), but the Gophers won on the road in style.  B1G teams aren't known to do that out West, regardless of whom they play....

there is a name for this in the NFL- something Vegas created and folks were talking about some years ago... has something to do with crossing 3 timezones and the level of handicap given to the traveling team? ... it is the same or very similar in College... i think there was a noted difference with college and top level teams that broke the rule, but other than that 3 time zones are worth something like 17 points or some such... enough to call locks in games there should be no 'lock'.... Minni crossed what, two zones? not exactly by the letter of the rule, but... still impressive. good for them. 
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Re: Powder Rankings Week Two
« Reply #33 on: September 14, 2017, 09:31:44 AM »
Week 2 composite computer rankings (46 computers - last week in parentheses)

1. Alabama (1)
2. Oklahoma (4)
3. Clemson (3)
4. USC (5)
5. PENN STATE (9)
6. OHIO STATE (2)
7. LSU (6)
8. MICHIGAN (7)
9. Oklahoma State (11)
10. Washington (10)
11. WISCONSIN (8)
12. Florida State (14)
13. Stanford (13)
14. Georgia (16)
15. Auburn (12)
16. Virginia Tech (15)
17. Louisville (19)
18. Kansas State (21)
19. Colorado (17)
20. Miami (20)
21. Tennessee (18)
22. Washington State (22)
23. TCU (-)
24. IOWA (24)
25. Utah (-)

27. Minnesota (46)
45. Michigan State (58)
49. Nebraska (32)
52. Maryland (60)
59. Northwestern (28)
63. Indiana (73)
75. Illinois (93)
79. Purdue (96)
109. Rutgers (106)
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Re: Powder Rankings Week Two
« Reply #34 on: September 15, 2017, 03:21:08 PM »
1) Penn State (1)
2) Wisconsin (3)
3) Michigan (4)
4) Ohio State (2)
5) Michigan State (7)
6) Maryland (9)
7) Iowa (8 )
8 ) Northwestern (5)
9) Nebraska (6)
10) Indiana (10)
11) Purdue (11)
12) Minnesota (12)
13) Illinois (14)
14) Rutgers (13)
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