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Topic: #11 Michigan (0-1, 2-1) at #13 Wisconsin (1-0, 3-0) - Post Game

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Re: #11 Michigan (2-0, 0-0) @ #13 Wisconsin (2-0, 0-0) - Game Week
« Reply #280 on: September 20, 2019, 12:31:45 PM »
My mistake, forgot to change my location.  From 11 till 2 pm 50% chance of rain and after 2pm 70 %.
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Re: #11 Michigan (2-0, 0-0) @ #13 Wisconsin (2-0, 0-0) - Game Week
« Reply #281 on: September 20, 2019, 01:20:10 PM »


***BIG TEN GAME OF THE WEEK***
#11 Michigan Wolverines (2-0) at #13 Wisconsin Badgers (2-0)
NOON - Madison, WI - FOX
As expected, one of these offenses rolls into this game with the Big Ten's highest completion percentage (76.9%), 3rd in passing ypa (9.2) and passing ypg (299.5); while the others passing offense limps in at 11th in completion percentage (60.9%) and ypa (7.1) and #12 in ypg (226.0).  Granted I think we assumed it would be flipped, but Jack Coan has looked outstanding through two games.  Yes, it's South Florida and Central Michigan, but in terms of defense, they really basically on par with Middle Tennessee and Army a year ago in terms of S&P+, with the 2019 numbers not available yet.  In terms of bye weeks, early ones are generally not preferred, but for Michigan this year, this is probably the rare time where the early bye is welcomed.  This looks like an offense that needed the extra week both to get healthy (Patterson and Peoples-Jones) and hammer out the issues from Week 1 and Week 2.  It all starts with the offensive line and Patterson.  Preseason we thought Michigan had the best quarterback in the conference, and if not the best offensive line, then 1-b to Wisconsin's 1-a.  Patterson's struggles have already been noted, but Wolverines fans are hopeful his oblique injury is better after a week off.  The offensive line issues are puzzling.  The Wolverines are #11 in the Big Ten in rushing ypa at just 3.8, ranking among the bottom 25 in the entire FBS, in terms of Power Success rate (#12 in Big Ten) and standard down sack rate (#13 in Big Ten).  The most concerning is that 55.6% power success rate, meaning the Wolverines are basically a 50/50 coin flip on converting a 3rd or 4th and 2 or less.  Now they face a Wisconsin run defense that rivals Michigan State for the best in the nation thus far.  In fact, Wisconsin has the only defensive line that is grading out higher than the Spartans' thus far.  Michigan has the weapons, the line and Patterson just need to step up and let them make plays.  The Badgers have the opposite issue.  Their line, expectedly, ranks #1 in the nation in Power Success Rate and Sack Rate.  But how really are their skill players aside from Jonathan Taylor, and is Jack Coan for real.  The Badgers ran the ball well enough a year ago, 183 yards on 6.3 ypc, led by 101 from Taylor.  But Wisconsin was completely one dimensional, and once Michigan made it a two score game in the 3rd quarter, it was game over, because Wisconsin could not throw the ball at all.  Alex Hornibrook was 7-20 for 100 yards, a meaningless touchdown with 3 minutes left down 38-7, and 2 picks.  His Raw QBR of 0.9 was the 4th worst single game of any quarterback in the FBS last year.  Coan looks like he has grown by leaps and bounds, but I still question how much the Badger receivers can challenge this elite Michigan secondary.  If they can't Wisconsin has already proven that running the ball well, alone, isn't enough.  If Michigan can get a lead, it may start to snowball like it did last year, but I can't fully buy into the Michigan offense, until I see Patterson and the line deliver on the preseason hype.
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Re: #11 Michigan (2-0, 0-0) @ #13 Wisconsin (2-0, 0-0) - Game Week
« Reply #282 on: September 20, 2019, 01:41:43 PM »
Good write up,hope your prognostication is accurate :dink:
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Re: #11 Michigan (2-0, 0-0) @ #13 Wisconsin (2-0, 0-0) - Game Week
« Reply #283 on: September 20, 2019, 01:47:57 PM »
 Taylor has had success running against Michigan, but last year there was no passing game to compliment the run.
That could be the deal breaker,nice to be able to run and throw
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Re: #11 Michigan (2-0, 0-0) @ #13 Wisconsin (2-0, 0-0) - Game Week
« Reply #284 on: September 20, 2019, 01:54:18 PM »
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Re: #11 Michigan (2-0, 0-0) @ #13 Wisconsin (2-0, 0-0) - Game Week
« Reply #285 on: September 20, 2019, 07:09:04 PM »
I just don't see this one being close. I think either Wisconsin gets an early lead and then Michigan starts falling apart with turnovers and bad offense and Wisconsin just whips Michigan's ass like 31-14 or something like that- OR - Michigan's offense starts to click and Patterson starts playing like he did last year vs Wisconsin and makes great reads in the run game and is accurate with his throws and not missing wide open guys and Michigan gets some big plays and starts to pull away and win it 35-17 or something like that.

I just see it going like that. One team is going to get a little bit of a beatdown I think. Unfortunately, I think it'll be Michigan on the receiving end. Not sold on Harbaugh staying the f out of the offense and not sold on Shea Patterson.

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Re: #11 Michigan (2-0, 0-0) @ #13 Wisconsin (2-0, 0-0) - Game Week
« Reply #286 on: September 20, 2019, 08:05:09 PM »
I'm rooting for the badgers

shouldn't since the Huskers are in the west, but don't think the Huskers can win the west even with a Badger loss here
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Re: #11 Michigan (2-0, 0-0) @ #13 Wisconsin (2-0, 0-0) - Game Week
« Reply #287 on: September 21, 2019, 03:02:45 PM »
Wisconsin is very dominant. They are the best in the West and will give OSU A RUN

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Re: #11 Michigan (2-0, 0-0) @ #13 Wisconsin (2-0, 0-0) - Game Week
« Reply #288 on: September 21, 2019, 03:39:35 PM »
Well, OK, then.

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Re: #11 Michigan (0-1, 2-1) at #13 Wisconsin (1-0, 3-0) - Post Game
« Reply #289 on: September 21, 2019, 03:53:18 PM »
Well, Michigan certainly made a statement. I was listening to Urbs after the game. Basically pins all of this on Harbaugh. And he's right.
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Re: #11 Michigan (0-1, 2-1) at #13 Wisconsin (1-0, 3-0) - Post Game
« Reply #290 on: September 21, 2019, 03:57:03 PM »
Wow that was an arse-shipping.  Congrats to the Badgers!

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Re: #11 Michigan (0-1, 2-1) at #13 Wisconsin (1-0, 3-0) - Post Game
« Reply #291 on: September 21, 2019, 04:15:46 PM »
Harbaugh isn't going to pull Shea vs the Badger defense
Welp, he did pull him in favor of McCaffrey. For M's sake, Shae better not have hurt feelings because they will need him next week. As I've said elsewhere, I hope McC is OK, but man, it didn't look good.
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Re: #11 Michigan (0-1, 2-1) at #13 Wisconsin (1-0, 3-0) - Post Game
« Reply #292 on: September 21, 2019, 04:37:08 PM »
Did I call that game or what lol. McCaffrey suffered a concussion, otherwise he should be OK. And he should be the starter going forward. Shea Patterson is awful. Jim Harbaugh is a bad X’s and O’s, personnel, and game management coach. He can go back to the pros for all I give a shit. 

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« Reply #293 on: September 21, 2019, 04:39:02 PM »
Did I call that game or what lol. McCaffrey suffered a concussion, otherwise he should be OK. And he should be the starter going forward. Shea Patterson is awful. Jim Harbaugh is a bad X’s and O’s, personnel, and game management coach. He can go back to the pros for all I give a shit.
I was worried about his neck. So the neck is OK then?
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