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Topic: Rose: #8 Ohio State 41, #1 Oregon 21 Post Game

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Re: #1 Oregon (13-1) vs. #8 Ohio State (12-2) Post Game
« Reply #84 on: January 02, 2025, 09:27:53 AM »
I am a bit surprised that the Big wasn't given the same protection as the SEC of seeding to avoid conference matchups

I suppose it's a bit tougher when you have 4 conference teams in the field
Yes scavenging each other and all that
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Re: #1 Oregon (13-1) vs. #8 Ohio State (12-2) Post Game
« Reply #85 on: January 02, 2025, 09:29:04 AM »
I am only a bit surprised, cause the SEC runs the proceedings 
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Re: #1 Oregon (13-1) vs. #8 Ohio State (12-2) Post Game
« Reply #86 on: January 02, 2025, 09:37:45 AM »
Of course
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Re: #1 Oregon (13-1) vs. #8 Ohio State (12-2) Post Game
« Reply #87 on: January 02, 2025, 09:42:46 AM »
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Re: #1 Oregon (13-1) vs. #8 Ohio State (12-2) Post Game
« Reply #88 on: January 02, 2025, 09:50:33 AM »
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Re: #1 Oregon (13-1) vs. #8 Ohio State (12-2) Post Game
« Reply #89 on: January 02, 2025, 10:32:18 AM »
Oregon has had a lot of very good seasons lately, just not a breakthrough.

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Re: #1 Oregon (13-1) vs. #8 Ohio State (12-2) Post Game
« Reply #90 on: January 02, 2025, 10:50:54 AM »
A year ago last night's game wouldn't have happened - and that's the way it should be. The season has to count for something before handing out invites to unfortunates who previously wouldn't have made the cut. But a 1pt win at home didn't indicate the Ducks were better,but the Bucks tanking against the least potent Michigan squad since the 2020 covid model or 2011 certainly didn't help their cause either. I still like the original 4 + 2 at most in the CFPOs
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Re: #1 Oregon (13-1) vs. #8 Ohio State (12-2) Post Game
« Reply #91 on: January 02, 2025, 10:56:17 AM »
Michigan was impotent this season, but not as impotent as Bama
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Re: #1 Oregon (13-1) vs. #8 Ohio State (12-2) Post Game
« Reply #92 on: January 02, 2025, 11:11:15 AM »
When you'se impotent..........
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Re: #1 Oregon (13-1) vs. #8 Ohio State (12-2) Post Game
« Reply #93 on: January 02, 2025, 11:57:20 AM »
eggzactly

just because a game gets lopsided, doesn't mean a team wasn't worthy

sometimes a good team will get clickin and the other good team has an off day or the ball just bounces one way

but people are stoopid like Finebaum
Just try and remember this when it happens to a team you don't like... :-)

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Re: #1 Oregon (13-1) vs. #8 Ohio State (12-2) Post Game
« Reply #94 on: January 02, 2025, 12:12:08 PM »
My memory is imperfect, but I'm better at that than most

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Re: #1 Oregon (13-1) vs. #8 Ohio State (12-2) Post Game
« Reply #95 on: January 02, 2025, 12:29:07 PM »
did he mention stirring the pot - i missed that
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Re: #1 Oregon (13-1) vs. #8 Ohio State (12-2) Post Game
« Reply #96 on: January 02, 2025, 01:09:06 PM »
I'll stand here and advocate for the 12-game playoff. 
(1) We already made the switch to a playoff format, where teams would get second chances against teams they had lost to earlier in the season. That came about with the conference championship games, and was reinforced with the four-team playoff.
(2) For all the talk about how Arizona State (B12) didn't belong, they sure look liked they belonged against the loser of the SEC championship game. That's not nothing. The bigger point is that the big conferences have always argued that their teams are far superior to everyone else--and to parrot the Big Ten and SEC, even the Pac 12, Big 12, and ACC didn't belong. (Let's try to overlook that a Pac 12 team stepped into the Big Ten and dominated it.) Clemson won several national championships recently, Tennessee, Alabama, aTm, and South Carolina haven't exactly shown just how amazing the SEC is relative to everyone else. The reality is that the margins between these teams, even across conferences, is smaller than the fans of the helmet schools want everyone to believe. The 12-team playoff gives the ASUs and BSUs a chance. As Oregon just demonstrated, the fact that they lost doesn't mean they shouldn't have had that chance. Could it have worked as 8 teams? Sure. But 12 isn't necessarily wrong just because we've had a few uncompetitive games.
(3) We all know that winning a game by a couple of points doesn't mean that team is necessarily the better team. It was better on that day, but we've had this discussion over and over again. So if we're trying to find the best teams, we shouldn't punish a team (too much) for one or two small losses.

I wish we could go back to the NCAA/bowl system, but that's probably more nostalgia than anything else. What I really wish is that Wisconsin was one of the teams that made it into the 12-team playoff. :-)

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Re: #1 Oregon (13-1) vs. #8 Ohio State (12-2) Post Game
« Reply #97 on: January 02, 2025, 01:20:04 PM »
No playoff can determine any "best team".  It determines a playoff winner, that might be the best team, but often is not.


 

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