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Topic: “Your Time Is Up White People!”

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DunkingDan

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Re: “Your Time Is Up White People!”
« Reply #14 on: December 11, 2018, 07:19:40 PM »
Fortunately fuzzie, Democrats were defeated in their attempts to hold onto slavery.  But we know that doesn't stop you from holding onto it in a completely bizarre attempt to brand Republicans with that particular sin.  

What does that have to do with white people having their property confiscated in South Africa anyway?  
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« Reply #15 on: December 11, 2018, 07:30:30 PM »
Fortunately fuzzie, Democrats were defeated in their attempts to hold onto slavery.
 
Yes!

But we know that doesn't stop you from holding onto it in a completely bizarre attempt to brand Republicans with that particular sin.  

Never once.  But I do brand Southern conservatives with it, and rightly so!  

What does that have to do with white people having their property confiscated in South Africa anyway?  
 
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« Reply #16 on: December 11, 2018, 09:40:33 PM »
Never once.  But I do brand Southern conservatives with it, and rightly so!  

Southern conservatives are no more prejudiced than you are, or anyone else for that matter.  


What does that have to do with white people having their property confiscated in South Africa anyway?  
 
Ask the OP!

Do you really think you can so easily divert from the topic at hand?  Is your pointy-headed point that no one in America can judge South Africa because of Jim Crow?  You are the self-anointed reminder of America's sinful past?   LOL, how liberal of you.   


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« Reply #17 on: December 11, 2018, 09:53:09 PM »
If you'd had the moral wisdom to disavow slavery then you wouldn't have seceded from the Union and we wouldn't have had to take action.  

Who are “we” Kemosabe?

After the Revolutionary War, many northern states rapidly passed laws to abolish slavery, but New Jersey did not abolish it until 1804, and then in a process of gradual emancipation similar to that of New York. But, in New Jersey, some slaves were held as late as 1865. (In New York, they were all freed by 1827.) The law made African Americans free at birth, but it required children (born to slave mothers), to serve lengthy apprenticeships as a type of indentured servant until early adulthood for the masters of their slave mothers. New Jersey was the last of the Northern states to abolish slavery completely. The last 16 slaves in New Jersey were freed in 1865 by the Thirteenth Amendment.

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« Reply #18 on: December 11, 2018, 10:02:33 PM »
Never once.  But I do brand Southern conservatives with it, and rightly so!  

Southern conservatives are no more prejudiced than you are, or anyone else for that matter.  

What does that have to do with who was responsible for slavery/secession?  

Is your pointy-headed point that no one in America can judge South Africa because of Jim Crow?  

No, it isn't, and you really need to work on your insults.  



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« Reply #19 on: December 11, 2018, 10:05:39 PM »
If the average generation is 30, that means that kids born today are at least five generations removed from slavery.  At what point does it end?

My ancestors were oppressed as well (which is why they ended up in the US in the first place).
Am I supposed to blame somebody I never met or encountered generations ago?

Who knows, maybe some want it to last forever - just like the grievances that still go on between Arabs and Jews thousands of years later....

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« Reply #20 on: December 11, 2018, 10:08:53 PM »
New Jersey did not abolish it until 1804
My grandfather didn't go through Ellis Island until 1906...

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« Reply #21 on: December 11, 2018, 10:42:27 PM »
My grandfather didn't go through Ellis Island until 1906...


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Re: “Your Time Is Up White People!”
« Reply #22 on: December 11, 2018, 11:05:52 PM »
Haven't seen any coverage by any media source on what's going on in South Africa. You would think they way they jump on racism every chance they get this would get coverage.


Then which “news” outlets are you paying attention to???
 
When it comes to South Africa’s white farmer conflict, back in the summer Tucker Carlson led several of his shows by covering the South African government’s hostilities toward established white farmers. The leftist backlash to Carlson’s coverage drawing even more attention to the issue, so much so that You Know Who’s tweets prompted the South African government to issue defensive press releases.

If you’re up for coverage that spends more time on the conflict check out Lauren Southern’s Youtube documentary (that a number of critics have set out to debunk):
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=a_bDc7FfItk

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Re: “Your Time Is Up White People!”
« Reply #23 on: December 12, 2018, 06:09:16 AM »

https://www.timeslive.co.za/politics/2018-12-04-parliament-gives-go-ahead-for-land-expropriation-without-compensation/

Parliament gives go-ahead for land expropriation without compensation

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The National Assembly has adopted the constitutional review committee's report recommending a constitutional amendment to expropriate land without compensation.

209 MPs voted in favour of the report, with 91 voting against it and no abstentions.

This means that parliament can start a process of amending the constitution, and ANC chief whip Jackson Mthembu indicated immediately after the results were announced that he would bring a motion to this effect on Thursday.







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« Reply #24 on: December 12, 2018, 08:56:59 AM »
If you'd had the moral wisdom to disavow slavery then you wouldn't have seceded from the Union and we wouldn't have had to take action.  


That has nothing to do with what I said by your reasoning we can seize peoples property for the sins of their ancestors. That's what you and Pitch are saying as long as it doesn't come to your door.

If your Yankee ancestors were alive today they would be tried as war criminals for War on Humanity just like the NAZIS were. Again by your reasoning you are as guilty as they are so don't preach to me about slavery.

The war was not and never was about slavery a few points will prove it.  The Emancipation Proclamation only freed slaves in the South which Lincoln had no control over and West Virginia was admitted to the Union in 1863 as a slave state after the Emancipation Proclamation was signed.

Union slave masters still owned slaves and they were still sold on the block in Boston Mass.

But to further answer you I didn't secede,  I have never owned a slave and I do not know of anyone who has owned a slave nor is anyone alive today that has been a slave in America.

So if there is any disavowing it should be by you and others like you for the peddling the lie so I have no reason to disavow something I had no part in.

But there is a form of slavery it is from your party the democrats who keep people in poverty on the welfare plantation.
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« Reply #25 on: December 12, 2018, 09:04:34 AM »
Then which “news” outlets are you paying attention to???
 
When it comes to South Africa’s white farmer conflict, back in the summer Tucker Carlson led several of his shows by covering the South African government’s hostilities toward established white farmers. The leftist backlash to Carlson’s coverage drawing even more attention to the issue, so much so that You Know Who’s tweets prompted the South African government to issue defensive press releases.

If you’re up for coverage that spends more time on the conflict check out Lauren Southern’s Youtube documentary (that a number of critics have set out to debunk):
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=a_bDc7FfItk




Tucker Carlson isn't a news outlet he is a TALK SHOW HOST . There is a difference do you know what it is?
Youtube isn't one either.
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Re: “Your Time Is Up White People!”
« Reply #26 on: December 12, 2018, 09:40:56 AM »
Had slavery not been an issue, no Civil War.

The other issues could have been resolved peaceably.  The election of Lincoln was viewed by the South as a harbinger of an eventual end to slavery but rendering new states free and not slave until the Congress had the votes to pass an Amendment.

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« Reply #27 on: December 12, 2018, 11:09:26 AM »
Not hardly Cincy the War of Northern Aggression was fought for the same reason the Revolutionary War was fought.

TAXES, TAXES AND MORE TAXES

People in the south were over burdened with taxes.

It was Lincolns War over loss of tax revenue and tariffs when southern states seceded so he sent ships to blockade Charleston before the war started.  The south knew they were coming so they fired on Ft. Sumter to take control of it in an attempt to prevent the blockade.

So Lincoln got his war and winners write history so they blamed it on the south.


It's surprising how little people know about history today.


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How Taxes Caused the Civil War (Not Slavery!)
Taxes caused the Civil War: Although I’m no scholar of American history, there are a few seminole events that I’ve always felt confident in having a basic understanding of. One of those is the cause of the Civil War, which was slavery, of course. But then, I did some research, and I had to rethink everything.

It seems that the root cause of the Civil War was not slavery, it was taxation. Over a century before anyone had even coined the term, “fake news,” our own government put a spin on the real cause of the Civil War which has been the accepted truth in history books and media to this day. Here’s how taxes caused the Civil War.

The cause of the Civil War dates back to long before the first shots were fired by the South at Fort Sumter, South Carolina in 1861. In fact, economic disputes between the North and South existed even before the Revolutionary War (also fought over taxes!), and things got even worse with the Tariff of 1828.

Called the, “Black Tariff” or “Tariff of Abomination,” (meaning, “the most evil thing ever,”) the tariff was created to repay the national debt (who does that?!) after the War of 1812. However, by 1832 the national debt was paid and there was no reason for such high taxes. However, the tariff had created a favorable situation for the North, who benefited greatly from such high taxes.

The South produced and exported most of the goods in America, and under the tariff, that resulted in the South paying about 75% of all taxes in America. The tariff also prevented them from buying European imports because after taxes were collected they were too costly. This meant that the South’s only option was to buy from the North.

It seemed that either way the South’s money was ending up in the North, and Southerners resented the arrangement. President Andrew Jackson was able to reduce some of the taxes on the South in the Great Compromise of 1833, but the same year the Force Bill was passed that allowed the government to collect federal tariffs from states by any means necessary, including by force. The seeds of the Civil War had been sown.






How Taxes Ignited the Civil War

“The Northern onslaught upon slavery was no more than a piece of specious humbug designed to conceal its desire for economic control of the Southern states.” – Charles Dickens

As you can see, in early 1861 the institution of slavery was secure in America, and Abolitionists were still largely a far-left group of “crazy liberals,” so why go to war? Well, taxes of course. Just before Lincoln took office departing president Buchanan signed a tariff even worse than the Tariff of abomination of 1832.

The new tax in 1861 was called, the Morrill Tariff, and was the highest tariff in American history, taxing imports at over 45%, with iron products taxed at 50%! Victorious Republicans cheered the heavy taxes that benefitted the Northern industrialists who backed Lincoln.

In Lincoln’s inaugural address he made no mention of ending slavery, but did promise to collect high taxes on imports in the South under all circumstances and without exception.



https://www.mightytaxes.com/taxes-caused-civil-war/
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