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Nate924

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« Reply #28 on: June 14, 2020, 06:47:18 PM »
If our economy dumps bad, Depression bad, I'd start to worry, seriously.  We're not there yet.  I suppose it could happen suddenly of course.

Hard times bring extremism to the fore.  I view the media as being more liberal at this point, not leftist, and more anti-Trump than anything right now. 
Explain what anti-Trump is and what That means they are against. 

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« Reply #29 on: June 14, 2020, 07:10:36 PM »
Explain anti-Trump?  I can't even begin, I suppose it means those folks who believe(d) his election was the worst possible thing that could have happened.

I know people who are more anti-Trump than they are anti-anything, almost.  They love Republicans they used to hate of they say something bad about Trump.

I'm not at all a Trump fan obviously, but I hope he does well as President, unlike many who revel in his lapses.

I didn't like Obama but hoped he would do as well as he could.  Any time you check CNN.com, at least half the stories are anti-Trump.

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« Reply #30 on: June 14, 2020, 07:36:12 PM »
Explain anti-Trump?  I can't even begin, I suppose it means those folks who believe(d) his election was the worst possible thing that could have happened.

I know people who are more anti-Trump than they are anti-anything, almost.  They love Republicans they used to hate of they say something bad about Trump.

I'm not at all a Trump fan obviously, but I hope he does well as President, unlike many who revel in his lapses.

I didn't like Obama but hoped he would do as well as he could.  Any time you check CNN.com, at least half the stories are anti-Trump.
So, I think we agree that the MSM is biased and can’t be trusted to report the truth if the truth goes against what they support. By extension, they are biased against those who voted for him. They are therefore an arm of propaganda for any who oppose Trump. They are therefore a powerful propaganda arm for the Democratic Party. To take it a step further since you brought up Obama, they were for Obama. Therefore they were a powerful propaganda arm for the Democratic Party. In other words they discriminate against or for political figures. 

It isn’t as simple as they are Just against Trump. They are against those things that Trump stands for. They are against free speech. They are against a reduction in onerous regulations which prevent us from competing against other nations. They are against this country’s leaders serving the people of this country first and other countries second.

They believe that anything they can do to stop Trump is good whether there is truth in what they report or not. They are no different than any grifter trying to take advantage of others

The press are more powerful than they would be in an educated society, but that isn’t the case in America anymore. Nor was it the case in Germany in the twenties and thirties. That power makes them a dangerous tool in the hands of their financiers. The same can be said for social media, a new phenomena not around in the twenties. Both are a powerful tool for the globalists. A power that Hitler took until 1934 to achieve. The risk is greater than in Germany.

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« Reply #31 on: June 14, 2020, 10:25:45 PM »
So, I think we agree that the MSM is biased and can’t be trusted to report the truth if the truth goes against what they support. By extension, they are biased against those who voted for him. They are therefore an arm of propaganda for any who oppose Trump. They are therefore a powerful propaganda arm for the Democratic Party. To take it a step further since you brought up Obama, they were for Obama. Therefore they were a powerful propaganda arm for the Democratic Party. In other words they discriminate against or for political figures.

It isn’t as simple as they are Just against Trump. They are against those things that Trump stands for. They are against free speech. They are against a reduction in onerous regulations which prevent us from competing against other nations. They are against this country’s leaders serving the people of this country first and other countries second.

They believe that anything they can do to stop Trump is good whether there is truth in what they report or not. They are no different than any grifter trying to take advantage of others

The press are more powerful than they would be in an educated society, but educations isn’t a strong suit in America anymore. Nor was it the case in Germany in the twenties and thirties. That power makes them a dangerous tool in the hands of their financiers. The same can be said for social media, a new phenomena not around in the twenties. Both are a powerful tool for the globalists. A power that Hitler took until 1934 to achieve. The risk is greater than in Germany.

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« Reply #33 on: June 14, 2020, 11:22:57 PM »
The right-minded conservatives on this board have been warning about the slippery slope of socialism and leftwing radicalism.

The problem arising from this small minority on left isn't socialism, it's anarchy, and it's more the product of hooliganism than ideology.  Maybe you're too filled with self-righteous hatred to accurately perceive what's going on.    

Socialism, and its social justice sibling anarchy, are the automatic door openers for Fascism.  We've seen hooliganism before from the radical left, but you might be too filled with self-righteous hatred to accurately perceive what's going on.  You didn't see any of this coming, did you?   Bless your heart.     

The only contributor to this board who EVER foretold of anything that's happening now was Indy.  Way back then, he was warning us all that if we don't do something about wealth inequality, that there would eventually be revolution.  

The wealth inequality argument is horse hockey - pablum for the weak of mind, which perfectly describes indy.  Not one of its proponents cares one whit about the disparity in wealth between the workers and the ruling class.  Wealth inequality is the argument used by Fascist dictators to whip up the useful idiots, another term that applies to you and indy.   

Somewhere, he's smiling and nodding at all of this.  

So is Joe Biden, and neither of them have a clue what they are smiling and nodding about.  

They, and the liberals who are just now becoming uncomfortable, do not understand how fragile civilization is. 

Until you advocate holding President Trump accountable for his crimes, these dire lamentations must be filed under "Dimwitted Hypocrite."  

President Trump has committed no crimes, at least while he's been in office.  But why can't you stick to the topic, which is how wrong you have been for the past 20 years?   The logical, rational conservatives on this board have been warning about this forever.  We saw it, we called it out, and you ridiculed us.  


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« Reply #34 on: June 15, 2020, 02:59:54 AM »

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« Reply #35 on: June 15, 2020, 03:02:42 AM »
https://www.nationalreview.com/the-morning-jolt/the-backlash-is-coming/


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There are probably quite a few Americans outraged by the sights of statues of Christopher Columbus or other figures from history being beheaded or pulled down, or the defacing of statutes of abolitionists in the name of racial equality. Whatever you think of Christopher Columbus or any other historical figure, we have a legal and democratic process to remove statues from public squares when a sufficient portion of the public deems them no longer acceptable. These communities have zoning boards and local elected officials who can make those choices and be held accountable to the public through elections. Nobody elected those angry mobs to a damn thing. This is rule by force, the strongest forcing their will upon those who are weaker than them. This will not end well for anyone.

There will be a backlash to these actions, but not in the form of the “white people’s riot” that In Living Color imagined. That backlash may come at the ballot box, or it may come in some other indirect form. Some people aren’t interested in direct confrontation in the streets. They may simply prefer to express their opposition in a way that these protesters expect it least — businesses moving out, reluctance to hire, reluctance to visit a neighborhood, effectively abandoning a community. Not every wall that is built is physical and visible. But one way or another, the reaction is coming.





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« Reply #36 on: June 15, 2020, 03:04:54 AM »

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/380097/#respond


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The saddest thing about this is President Trump pushed Sen Tim Scott's enterprise zone initiative hard for the last 3 years, getting millions of dollars invested in those communities in the inner cities. Now that is all over after a lot of those investments have literally gone up in smoke, now there will be no more investments in those areas.

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« Reply #37 on: June 15, 2020, 03:15:15 AM »
This....

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/380167/#respond

BRENDAN O’NEILL ON J.K. ROWLING ON FACEBOOK:

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I disagree with JK Rowling on a lot. I have never read a single word of a Harry Potter book. But seriously, every institution in the UK could learn something from her refusal to capitulate to the fuming mob who have spent weeks abusing and insulting her and trying to get her cancelled simply because she believes there is such a thing as biological reality. In their tens of thousands people have lined up to denounce her, to call her “pure scum”, to tell her to shut the f**k up. Including the three actors who became famous on the back of the Harry Potter stories — the celeb equivalent of children denouncing their parents in Stalinist Russia. She knows there will be protests if she speaks in public again, she knows some millennials are burning her books, she knows she will be defamed and boycotted for years. And yet she is sticking to her guns. That is so unusual in these yellow-bellied times.

Imagine if every university, corporation, media channel, streaming service, local council and politician did likewise every time noisy agitators called on them to ban something or apologise for something or to sack people for wrongthink. Britain would be a very different, and far better, place.



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« Reply #38 on: June 15, 2020, 03:23:57 AM »
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« Reply #39 on: June 15, 2020, 08:09:58 AM »

Boom.  They think it's cool. Been telling people this for a while now

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« Reply #40 on: June 15, 2020, 08:21:37 AM »

Socialism, and its social justice sibling anarchy, are the automatic door openers for Fascism.

Medicare = Fascism.  Got it.

We've seen hooliganism before from the radical left

So?  That doesn't change what it is.  If anything, if it's a temporary flare-up as you're characterizing it, then that would mean you're wrong to pretend that it's supported by the mainstream left.  So... thanks.  

but you might be too filled with self-righteous hatred to accurately perceive what's going on.  You didn't see any of this coming, did you?  
 
Oh no, I'm quite used to having my posting style and use of language imitated here.  Knoxy and I used to marvel at it back in the day.   

The wealth inequality argument is horse hockey - pablum for the weak of mind, which perfectly describes indy. 
 
How dare you.  Indy is/was many things, populist, poet, non-conformist, patriot, prophet and military serviceman.  But he was not weak of mind.  

Not one of its proponents cares one whit about the disparity in wealth between the workers and the ruling class. 

It's unconscionable what's happened in this country.  That's at least one area where everyone should concede Bernie is right.
  

President Trump has committed no crimes, at least while he's been in office.

Oh that's right, because the Mueller Report was only credible when it was dishonestly characterized to have "exonerated" Trump, as Roady hilariously put it.  

Polling to find Americans who agree with your statement would be a good sanity litmus test.  Your bubble has caused you to lose touch with reality.  
  



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« Reply #41 on: June 15, 2020, 08:23:38 AM »
I have pondered how a "centrist" party could come into existence.  It seems very unlikely, but you have what folks call RINOs of course and Democrats like Manchin who clearly are not Leftists (and others) who would be fairly comfortable in a centrist party.

Our System does not seem to allow more than two major parties to exist other than during a transition.

I don't view Trump as being "far right" but some of his most ardent supporters are, IMHO.  The AOC's et al could have their Democratic Socialist Party, fine with me, and quite pretending to be Democrats in any sense.  Maybe a Biden-Rice ticket would resemble a centrist ticket if they are coopted by the demands of the Left.  I think that ticket would be a winner electorally.

The socialists would go back to getting votes like Gus Hall once did.

 

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