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fuzzynavol

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You poor guys must be getting dizzy...
« on: September 20, 2019, 11:25:39 PM »
Can Trump do anything on the up-and-up?  He can't seem to keep his nose clean for 24 hours.  I can't wait to see how you spin this one:

Revelations that President Trump pressured Ukraine’s new leader to investigate the son of former vice president Joe Biden have focused fresh attention on hundreds of millions of dollars in military aid the administration withheld from the country until last week. 

Trump’s actions — which inspired a whistleblower complaint that the administration has refused to share with lawmakers — involve a July 25 phone call between the two leaders, according to people familiar with the exchange, one of whom said Trump did not raise the issue of military aid during the conversation.

Privately, congressional Democrats are questioning whether the aid, which remained frozen during Trump’s call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky and for several weeks afterward, was related to the “promise” that sparked the whistleblower complaint and what Intelligence Community Inspector General Michael Atkinson told lawmakers constituted an “urgent” and “credible” threat.



But never before has the White House withheld the entire military allotment for Ukraine until the last days of the fiscal year, as Trump had done, nor has the president ever done so in such an opaque and un­or­tho­dox manner, according to House and Senate aides with knowledge of the process.

According to those aides, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, lawmakers were informed in the spring that the administration intended to start sending money to Ukraine on a rolling basis. But the funds were never transferred — and by August, congressional appropriators became aware that officials at the Pentagon and the State Department had lost control over the process at the Office of Management and Budget, an executive office run by Mick Mulvaney, who also serves as the president’s acting chief of staff.

For weeks thereafter, congressional aides said, the OMB announced short-term holds on Ukraine funds. There was never an express reason given except that the administration was conducting a vague “interagency review” of the funds.

Privately, Democrats are wondering whether the Trump administration was trying to use that money as leverage over the Ukrainian president, hopeful it would spur an investigation of Biden, who is a leading Democratic candidate for president. Biden on Friday suggested there could be a connection.

“If these reports are true . . . it means he used the power and resources of the United States to pressure a sovereign nation — a partner that is still under direct assault from Russia — pushing Ukraine to subvert the rule of law in the express hope of extracting a political favor,” the former vice president said in a statement.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trumps-freeze-on-ukraine-aid-draws-new-scrutiny-amid-push-for-biden-investigation/ar-AAHBu9f?li=BBnb7Kz
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Re: You poor guys must be getting dizzy...
« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2019, 11:28:53 PM »
Don't tell me... 

What about Obama?  What about Hillary?  What about Obama?  What about the magic golden dossier?  



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Re: You poor guys must be getting dizzy...
« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2019, 11:39:52 PM »
Don't tell me...

What about Obama?  What about Hillary?  What about Obama?  What about the magic golden dossier? 




You're absolutely right fuzz.   Democrats can do this, but not Trump.   Trump must be punished.  The day that Trump is given the same treatment under the law as Democrats will be a dark day in American history.  

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Re: You poor guys must be getting dizzy...
« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2019, 12:24:08 AM »
do i like it? no... 
this is the face of modern politics where nothing is off the table.  gone is honor.  

my hope is that the next five years will drain much of the swamp and tire American's of this brand of disgraceful behavior by those hired by we the people to represent us... and we return to a more cooperative and tempered legislative branch, a more regal executive branch, and a judicial that values interpreting the constitution above interpreting polls.  

but that ain't gonna happen.  
hillary is polling at #7 and she isn't even (officially) running. 
the chinese just found slime on the dark side of the moon that appears to be alive. 
UFO's have officially been acknowledged by our very own Navy. 
they're coming for our guns. 
there are over 70 acknowledged 'sexes' in the past five years, up from 2 just ten years ago.
McCarthyism is condoned and practiced by the media.
the left has a terrorist organization that operates openly. 
UT still hasn't 'bounced back'. 
Socialists are more popular than and gaining numbers on capitalists. 
Our FBI has been proven partisan.
Our military is called 'heartless animals' by a strongly supported candidate for president. 
i'm tired and i'm gonna stop here. 
you get the point. 

we're done.  we're over the hump.  the fall will gain in velocity and momentum.  my child will never know the true taste of freedom, but will understand it's value far better than i.  
 

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Re: You poor guys must be getting dizzy...
« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2019, 01:21:18 AM »
A Ukranian prosecutor was investigating a firm on which his son was on the payroll for corruption.
Can't have that.
Biden threatens the Ukraine with the withdrawal of $1 Billion if they don't fire the prosecutor investigating the firm.
True?  Maybe, maybe not -  as it appears that Joe makes up lots of stories.
But these are Biden's words - not too worried about Trump - these torpedoes seem to circle around more often than not.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXA--dj2-CY




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Re: You poor guys must be getting dizzy...
« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2019, 07:37:38 AM »


To begin with Fuzz you nitwits on the left need to check up on the whistleblower act.  

 All this Bull Shit about what you and the left wing MSM is putting out about someone in a security agency blowing the whistle on the president is just that, Bull Shit.

It can't be done within the law. Now someone in a security agency was probably spying that's why we don't have a name and meetings were held in secret. Otherwise it would have been another democrat shit show for the media.

Another thing the president sets foreign policy and it isn't against the law for him to ask a leader of another country to do something nor is it against the law to promise them something.

You idiots need to get a life before your brain explodes from stupidty.
If everyone is thinking alike then somebody isn't thinking.

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Re: You poor guys must be getting dizzy...
« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2019, 07:53:17 AM »
No big deal if you're a traitor to your country. 

gymvol

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Re: You poor guys must be getting dizzy...
« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2019, 08:20:24 AM »
No big deal if you're a traitor to your country.


You're right it isn't a big deal that's why Obama got away with it making promises to Russia and giving a plane load of cash to a terrorist country, Iran.  

 You left wing loons are all traitors to the country otherwise we wouldn't be seeing all the shit shows created by democrats.
If everyone is thinking alike then somebody isn't thinking.

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Re: You poor guys must be getting dizzy...
« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2019, 08:28:42 AM »
No big deal if you're a traitor to your country.
Good to see that you are in agreement that Biden's son has been selling his access to his father in both China and the Ukraine to his benefit.  Pretty outrageous actually - it is what you expect in a dictatorship in China, not in the US....


Hunter Biden was a board member of the Ukrainian Gas Company, Burisma.
Insights into the Ukraine?  Zero
Background / expertise in oil and natural gas?  Zero.
Access to the Vice-President of the United States?  Unlimited.
Therein lies the real problem - selling access to Daddy.
And Daddy coming to the rescue in threatening the Ukraine Government in regards to a corruption investigation into the exact company on which his son sat as a Board Member.

But hey, don't let laws and ethics get in the way of trying to portray, "ORANGE MAN BAD!"






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This Signals A Change In Democrat Strategy
« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2019, 08:30:06 AM »
Against Trump and Kavanaugh the accusers made accusations that couldn't be corroborated .
Now the identity of the accuser can't even be corroborated.
I can't think of a reason why anything these people can be believed.

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Re: You poor guys must be getting dizzy...
« Reply #10 on: September 21, 2019, 09:34:19 AM »
"We choose truth over facts"................

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Re: You poor guys must be getting dizzy...
« Reply #11 on: September 21, 2019, 12:33:28 PM »
See if you guys can focus on Trump for once, instead of defending him nonstop. 

Wrong is wrong. 

Focus, just once. 

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Re: You poor guys must be getting dizzy...
« Reply #12 on: September 21, 2019, 01:07:07 PM »
See if you guys can focus on Trump for once, instead of defending him nonstop.

Wrong is wrong.

Focus, just once.

Yes, we should just learn to accept the double standard, and live with it.   


 

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