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harvestalvol

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Re: What dont you like about Trump?
« Reply #28 on: December 30, 2020, 12:49:03 AM »
it's not like he rescued the country from the brink of a Depression like Obama did

Really? With Dims back in the WH we can at least get all those folks back on welfare. 


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Re: What dont you like about Trump?
« Reply #29 on: December 30, 2020, 12:52:50 AM »

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Re: What dont you like about Trump?
« Reply #30 on: December 30, 2020, 12:59:08 AM »
What I like most about Trump?

That he completely exposed the bureaucrats in DC and the Mainstream Media for the complete hacks and hypocrites that they truly are.  I had no idea how corrupt the entire edifice had become.  I have almost zero faith in anything that comes out of DC or the MSM today.  They don't tell the truth - they tell you what they think that they need to say to further their agenda - and no more / no less.

If the FBI asked me to come in for questioning, I'd comply. But only 3 days later with my lawyer in tow and insisting that I get to video record and retain the entire length of the interview.  I might even have a second video going just to protect myself.  Sadly.....very sadly....I don't trust the FBI or anyone else from the DC bureaucracy to do the right thing.  They'll nail you to a cross, but give themselves a pass....each and every time....  See the EPA and the consequences of the Animus River as just one example.  Zero repercussion to them for their screw-up - but if it had been you, me or a corporation - there would be hell to pay with fines and jail time. But they are above the law each and every time...  See Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, James Comey, etc. etc. etc.

Trump's time in office was immensely eye-opening to the corruption and two-tiered justice system of Washington DC.


Pretty consistent with my opinion of Trump. He is a fighter and doesn't roll over like almost all politicians. I dislike that he perpetuated the huge Obama deficits.Seems no one is willing to do anything about the massive debt. It will eventually take care of itself is a very bad way. 

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Re: What dont you like about Trump?
« Reply #31 on: December 30, 2020, 04:30:07 AM »
Pretty consistent with my opinion of Trump. He is a fighter and doesn't roll over like almost all politicians. I dislike that he perpetuated the huge Obama deficits.Seems no one is willing to do anything about the massive debt. It will eventually take care of itself is a very bad way.
Yep, I'm long Can Dollar, Euros, Swiss Francs, Real Estate, Gold, Gold & Silver mining shares, etc.  Also plays towards a steep / steeper yield curve.

All protection against money printing and what can now be construed as MMT - Modern Monetary Theory.  Works in the short run - disaster in the long run....


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Re: What dont you like about Trump?
« Reply #32 on: December 30, 2020, 08:59:38 AM »
OrangeAfroMan said, without evidence

"One specific thing I dislike about him is the fact that he doesn't give a fuck that people are dying from covid  He couldn't care less.  It's a minor nuisance when reporters are close enough to yell questions about it at him.

He doesn't give a fuck."

What'd you mean" He doesn't have evidence" ?!?!?
 He has talking points and that's all a lib needs...and will ever know.

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« Reply #33 on: December 30, 2020, 11:02:18 AM »
What'd you mean" He doesn't have evidence" ?!?!?
 He has talking points and that's all a lib needs...and will ever know.

Doesn't it sound like the typical idiotic garbage that people post on social media?   A friend of mine, a guy who should've known better, posted a meme that showed border detention facilities and compared them to Nazi concentration camps.   I had mistakenly thought he had a little bit of common sense until then.   

Trump cares more about this country than any dimokrat.   

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« Reply #34 on: December 30, 2020, 11:10:57 AM »

https://youtu.be/7MeLUaUQ1W0

Harvy, we don't expect them to be "presidential" 24/7.  They may tell their friends off-color jokes, and as Volatile pointed out, then may even engage in private sexual activity.  

There's a time and a place for everything, and when standing before the public addressing the nation, Trump was often "unpresidential."  

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« Reply #35 on: December 30, 2020, 11:54:51 AM »
Harvy, we don't expect them to be "presidential" 24/7.  They may tell their friends off-color jokes, and as Volatile pointed out, then may even engage in private sexual activity. 

There's a time and a place for everything, and when standing before the public addressing the nation, Trump was often "unpresidential." 


Trump was actually very presidential several times, but it didn't matter to the lying media.   E.g., his July 4th speech at Mt Rushmore was a damn fine speech.   Had Obama delivered the same speech, the media would have fondled themselves while listening to it.   But the AP wrote a completely fake review of the speech because the so-called "reporter" obviously didn't like orange man.   CNN, ABC, and others picked up the lie and spread it.  

So we can talk about Trump being unpresidential at times and probably agree about some instances, but who is going to hold the media responsible for being "unjournalistic" in their coverage of a sitting president?   

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« Reply #36 on: December 30, 2020, 12:01:53 PM »
Trump cares more about this country than any dimokrat. 
I'm not sure bone spurs feels the same way about our armed forces:  

President Trump is fighting a losing battle against reports of his talk about the military, which he claims to revere but deeply resents. Multiple news organizations, including The Post, have confirmed private comments he made disparaging those who served as “suckers” and “losers.” These and his previous remarks — disrespecting POWs and allegedly telling the wife of a slain serviceman that her husband Sgt. La David T. Johnson “knew what he signed up for” — are consistent with the narcissist’s felt need to maintain an unduly high opinion of himself by diminishing others who have plainly surpassed him in courage and competence. Trump ducked military service; the valiant men and women who went in his place therefore must be denigrated, pitied and scorned. How foolish they went to war for me!



Trump can deny his animosity until the cows come home but he remains unable to articulate real respect for those who have served. Recall the scene in “A Very Stable Genius,” by Post reporters Philip Rucker and Carol Leonnig, in which Trump called the service chiefs “a bunch of dopes and babies” and barked, “You’re all losers. You don’t know how to win anymore.” Trump did it all over again at a Monday news conference.

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Re: What dont you like about Trump?
« Reply #37 on: December 30, 2020, 12:11:34 PM »
"Unpresidential"...

A made up word... perceived how the person weilding it intends. 

It's funny in a harmful way how the left does this over and over.  And over.  They make up words or steal the meanings of others without ever really defining it, and use it in accusation.  Never accurate, bereft of precision in fact... too vague to prove but sounding damn serious. 

The best fully encapsulated example of this dynamic is when that nit wit Hawaiian senator went after the SCOTUS nominee when she used the term "sexual preference".

All of the sudden everyone on the left acted as if it was an attack on the gay community to suggest they have a choice in the matter.  They acted as if this was widely known what an insult using those words were.... and they had to explain it every time they used the accusation. (Because it was new and had to be adopted quickly)  All the while it was devised by them years ago- not the mean right- and.... it IS a choice and them or anyone else repeating that its not doesn't bend that lie into truth. 

They made up the phrase. Its found in legislation and HR forms, application for college and certainly on a application for media work... yet it benefitted them to sacrifice it in effort to make a political maneuver... and in effort to make the right look insensitive when using the term when it was in fact an attempt to demonstrate sensitivity toward the group the phrase represents.  Friggin amazing.

But this is the world we live in... words and language are the weapons of today's outlaws.  Yeah there is thuggery in the streets, but nothing compared to the outlaws in legislation, executive, or judicial branches of all levels of government. 
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Re: What dont you like about Trump?
« Reply #38 on: December 30, 2020, 02:35:45 PM »
This thread highlights one of the major differences between Libs and Conservative.
Libs identify a great politician and leader as someone who is a flowery orator.
Such as......"this was  the moment the oceans will begin to recede and the planet will heal itself"
It doesn't matter if he/she does a damn thing as long as he sounds good and looks good doing it.
Obama won a Nobel Prize just looking presidential...he never really accomplished anything.
On the other hand conservatives are willing to look past speaking flaws and look at the bottom line.....did he/she accomplish anything?

There is one major exception..............Biden is neither a good politician or leader. He's never done anything but screw things up and embezzle taxpayers money.. He not a speaker either unless he can rehearse an answer and have a teleprompter in front of him.
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Re: What dont you like about Trump?
« Reply #39 on: December 30, 2020, 02:50:59 PM »
This thread highlights one of the major differences between Libs and Conservative.
Libs identify a great politician and leader as someone who is a flowery orator.
Such as......"this was the moment the moment the oceans will begin to recede and the planet will heal itself"
It doesn't matter if he/she does a damn thing as long as he sounds good and looks good doing it.
Obama won a Nobel Prize just looking presidential...he never really accomplished anything.
On the other hand conservatives are willing to look past speaking flaws and look at the bottom line.....did he/she accomplish anything?

There is one major exception..............Biden is neither a good politician or leader. He's never done anything but screw things up and embezzle taxpayers money.. He not a speaker either unless he can rehearse an answer and have a teleprompter in front of him.
people can say whatever they want... and do... but that isn't how a perceptive person should judge them.... what they actually do carries the weight... and... in that regard, there are only a handful of politicians left that aren't on the take... 

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« Reply #40 on: December 30, 2020, 04:10:25 PM »
his July 4th speech at Mt Rushmore was a damn fine speech.  
The fact that you can remember a specific speech where he behaved himself kinda proves my point, doesn't it?  

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« Reply #41 on: December 30, 2020, 04:41:27 PM »
The fact that you can remember a specific speech where he behaved himself kinda proves my point, doesn't it? 
That was a speech for the ages and precisely what this nation needed... ot could have been a rally cry to reform to what makes America and Americans exceptional, and by recognizing differences as a critical aspect of that unlikely union....

But the media twisted it.  They said, in headlines and in wager people would only read the headlines, pretty much the exact opposite. 

Fuzz, it's not just "your" side.  It's the fact there are sides in this mechanism to begin with.  The whole time Trump was attacked, and he was, those who voted and support trump perceived it as attack on them too- which it was... and that is what it was in actuality... which divided this nation into red and blue camps. 

The media did this.  At the behest or at least applause of the left. 

The opportunity to stand down, much less heal or unite, is gone.  It'll never return, either. 

Language being a weapon, why does the media use the term "heal"?  That would suggest they were happy with the way things were before trump, and all the while they argue we need to progress- accept things formerly taboo as normal... which is it? Heal or progress?  Business as usual or cut the dead weight and create a more efficient mechanism?  Which?  If business as usual, just maintain your bent posture and accept whatever is shoved in your backside and call it normal... if progress, accept there will be casualties. 

That goes for all of us.  Change is inevitable.  The velocity of change can be managed is all... but to "return" aka "heal" is a lie.... progress is a lie... you can't have both... conservatives want to progress beyond the age of corruption, which is laughable as that is the core or human nature hence sharing similarities in language.  Core corruption. 

We've witnessed the loss of this nation at this point... and we're to believe its one side or the other internally responsible.  It is, and because we let it happen.. and its not because there is massive outside influence guiding the destruction.  Either way its the way the world works now and its the way the world worked then... corrupted or in the process of corrupting.

Its your and your sides fault. Damn it. And... its our fault too.  My "sides".... Obama.  Trump. The Bush bunch.  Clinton. Reagan.  Et al. 

 

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