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Topic: What dont you like about Trump?

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fuzzynavol

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Re: What dont you like about Trump?
« Reply #14 on: December 29, 2020, 12:31:55 PM »
He drove radical partisan socialist like Fuzz nuts.
 
You're projecting here - he has never caused me a moment's anguish.  I'm sure all the embarrassment he's caused you hasn't been easy.  

I doubt many will ever recover from their 24/7 obsession of him better known as TDS.  Years from now scholars will still be writing papers on the cause and effect of this mental illness.

What they'll be writing is that as always, you've got it backwards.  It was the right that Trump deranged.  They were already well on their way, but he will go down in history as the lynchpin that completely divorced the right from reality while mainstreaming the conspiracy theorizing lunatic fringe.  

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Re: What dont you like about Trump?
« Reply #15 on: December 29, 2020, 01:24:36 PM »
Your posting history betrays you.
You seem to imagine yourself as an enlightened genius while everyone else sees you as a naive and misguided partisan obsessed with Trump.
Perhaps someday someone will find a cure.


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Re: What dont you like about Trump?
« Reply #16 on: December 29, 2020, 01:29:13 PM »
I agree with most of the comments.  Mainly what I dislike about Trump is that he behaves in a manner I would call "unpresidential".  He could keep those sharp elbows at the ready, drain the swamp, speak honestly and directly about what is going on, and still conduct himself in a mature and professional manner.  By not doing so, he's turned off a lot of voters.  Except for the spending, I've agreed with almost every policy issue and IMO he's been a great president.  But every word uttered by the President matters, and that's where he's fallen short. 

What exactly is "presidential" behavior?  Head jobs in the Oval office?  Oration skills such as Obama (see adolf hitler)?  Buffoonery of W? Or "Reaganesque"?  This is the biggest problem I have with anyone who claims this as a knock against Trump.  They are all flawed.  They are just men.  What I believe people who say this are really saying is "I want someone in there who I believe is a better person than me.   Someone I can idolize or look up to."  Idolatry anyone?

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Re: What dont you like about Trump?
« Reply #17 on: December 29, 2020, 01:40:35 PM »
What I don't like about Trump is that he didn't fight hard enough.  He has caved on spending bills time and again, even after saying he would "never sign another bill like this again".  His status as a non-politician was/is a double-edged sword.  Great that he may do things differently/drain the swamp, but bad that at times he was naive, allowing traitors to remain in his midst.  He allowed Paul Ryan to sabotage nearly all of his early agenda (the wall, repeal of obamacare, etc.).  His talk was bigger than his game.

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Re: What dont you like about Trump?
« Reply #18 on: December 29, 2020, 02:54:46 PM »
What exactly is "presidential" behavior?  Head jobs in the Oval office?  Oration skills such as Obama (see adolf hitler)?  Buffoonery of W? Or "Reaganesque"?  This is the biggest problem I have with anyone who claims this as a knock against Trump.  They are all flawed.  They are just men.  

When I say presidential behavior, I'm talking about professionalism.  It refers to speaking and behaving like you're the leader of the free world.  It means not letting your emotions negatively affect the words that come out of your mouth.  It means not going on infantile twitter rants in the middle of the night.  It means choosing one's words carefully so as not to give your enemies ammunition.  Saying that all presidents are flawed and are just men is just making an excuse for an area in which Trump failed.   

Obama also spent much of his 4 years being unpresidential.   

  • Republicans should take a seat in the back of the bus.
  • Republicans want dirty air and water.
  • The police in Cambridge acted stupidly.
  • If I had a son, he would look like Trayvon.
  • Conservatives are clinging to their guns and their Bible.
  • You didn't build that.
  • Elections have consequences.   

So in addition to his massive failures in policy positions, I'd also give Obama an "F" when it comes to being presidential.   


What I believe people who say this are really saying is "I want someone in there who I believe is a better person than me.   Someone I can idolize or look up to."  Idolatry anyone?

I don't know where you come up with that, but that's not me you're describing.  I don't expect presidents to be perfect.  I would still take Trump over a silver-tongued snake like Obama or Hillary.   But I'm also going to be honest enough to recognize an area in which Trump disappointed.  The Dims might've had a harder time stealing this election had Trump conducted himself differently.   




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Re: What dont you like about Trump?
« Reply #19 on: December 29, 2020, 03:31:51 PM »
The Dims might've had a harder time stealing this election had Trump conducted himself differently.

They wouldn't have had to steal the election against a usual, garden variety, "Aww shucks", typical Republican.  That's the difference.  No threat with any establishment GOP robots.  They'd get crushed, and will in the future.

The Left actually feared someone that was off the script and could play their games on their terms.  Hence the all out blitz, by hook or by crook, to oust him.  He was exposing them, their graft, their hypocrisy, and their criminal enterprises.  No more worries now.  The political world is set back right, and the mean tweets will be a thing of the past.

I can't wait to se the who the next GOP punching bag will be.  Yippee!!

(and yes, I get the off putting nature of Trump.  He was the right character, at the right time, and unfortunately only a short reprieve.  Back to business as usual.  Yay.....)


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Re: What dont you like about Trump?
« Reply #20 on: December 29, 2020, 05:11:10 PM »
What exactly is "presidential" behavior?




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Re: What dont you like about Trump?
« Reply #21 on: December 29, 2020, 07:54:54 PM »
“What don’t you like about Trump?”

Ugh.  You had to ask….  ( ^ ;

I’m afraid this post won’t win very many “likes”. 

Saw this thread earlier, and decided I had to respond, when I got a moment.  Well… I didn’t HAVE to… but you know what I mean.

Logged on, saw my friend jg had made a post, covered up by fuzz’s usual featherweight contribution.  I value jg’s opinion as much or more than anyone on this site.  And there’s not a thing I disagree with in his post, except the last line:


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Back to business as usual.


Nossir, my friend.  If we lose Georgia — and I see no reason they won’t steal it: who’s gonna stop ‘em?  And where are the threats of consequences? —

then “business as usual” is over.

Consider this.  Watching the Fox lineup last night (Mark Steyn, subbing for Tucker, was AWESOME).  Some people are starting to launch lawsuits over these asinine, illegal, and unconstitutional lockdowns.  I think:  “that’s what needs to happen.  Just swamp the m-effers with tens of thousands of individual and class action lawsuits!  And continue business as usual while they wade through ‘em!”

Or something like that.  I began to mentally work through the ramifications of that, when it hit me — screeeech.  Full stop.

Here’s the solution to that course of action.  Congress simply passes a law, making it a felony to sue the gov’t over any form of Covid restriction.  President KaMALa signs it, and even if there’s a suit against it, a packed SCOTUS just rubber stamps the legislation.

Back in your holes, peons.

They will be able to do any damn thing they want to do.  There will be no stopping them.

Not only that, but when one-party rule is fully in effect, it will be brutally enforced.  That’s how it works.  I hope that Drew is able, when the shit really hits the fan, to scrub the contents of this site.  There is plenty of evidence on here to make a lot of us “enemies of the state”.  Thought criminals.

Now to Trump.  Briefly as possible.

You never. Ever.  Go against principles.  Honor, decency, character, knowledge, wisdom….  It is disaster when you do.  Oh, you may pragmatically “win” at first.  You may enjoy the fleeting success of championships.

But only until they are revoked.

That’s what happened with Trump.  We went with Kiffin.  And won some championships.  Now, we’re paying the piper.

Trump’s ego, his arrogance, his brutal simplicity, expressed in his juvenile tweeting and behavior, inflamed the Left — and China, the Left’s allies and benefactors — into its present utter deranged imbecilic, rabid, insurrectionist, malevolent hostility.

As a result, we are in our present circumstances.  It’s called “politics” for a reason.  There’s also a reason why a certain ancient book, which is “an integrated message system from outside our time domain”, warns against arrogance and pride and what it refers to as “haughtiness”.  How they are displeasing to the God who made us.  And how He can’t, and won’t, bless and favor those who exhibit those qualities.

And yet not only does Mr. Trump exhibit them, continuously (though recently, and to his credit, he has shown some much-needed humility); but many of his followers — including many self professed Christians, even Evangelicals — applaud him for it.

Bottom line: 

Trump did some great things.

All of them will be undone within two weeks by his enemies, who he provided the ammunition with which to destroy him.  The stupid, the brutal simplicity, on display by both Red state and Blue for these past four years has been… inexpressible?  I’m having a hard time expressing, it, anyway…

So:

Here we are.  To clarify:  I’m not pointing fingers.  I’m not casting blame.  I do believe that Trump embodied a lack of faith.  No different from the Left’s repeated mantra:  “something must be done.  This is something — we must do it!”

I think Red State’s attitude was “something must be done.  Trump is something — we must elect him!”  But we violated the principles of Christian Conservatism in doing so.  And we’re paying the price.  Four good years…

But now the Devil wants his due.

And the payback, I fear, is going to be… Biblical.  In a literal sense.  We are all playing our roles in a narrative that is prewritten.  And is steadily proceeding to its inevitable climax.




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Re: What dont you like about Trump?
« Reply #22 on: December 29, 2020, 08:17:51 PM »
One specific thing I dislike about him is the fact that he doesn't give a fuck that people are dying from covid  He couldn't care less.  It's a minor nuisance when reporters are close enough to yell questions about it at him.

He doesn't give a fuck.
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Re: What dont you like about Trump?
« Reply #23 on: December 29, 2020, 08:44:02 PM »
One specific thing I dislike about him is the fact that he doesn't give a fuck that people are dying from covid  He couldn't care less.  It's a minor nuisance when reporters are close enough to yell questions about it at him.

He doesn't give a fuck.

Funny thing is .....

Neither does the side you support.  Even less GAF in fact.

They’re all poisonous.  Taking sides is over. 

It’s us vs. them.  That’s the new sides. 

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Re: What dont you like about Trump?
« Reply #24 on: December 29, 2020, 08:53:53 PM »
President Trump has an uncanny knack to expose the folks who hate him as the drama kings and arseholes they are.

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Re: What dont you like about Trump?
« Reply #25 on: December 29, 2020, 09:32:26 PM »
it's not like he rescued the country from the brink of a Depression like Obama did

Now that is truly hilarious....and non-factual....and conjecture...and non-provable....

Here's a book recommendation for you Fuzz:

The Forgotten Depression: 1921: The Crash That Cured Itself
by Jim Grant


https://www.amazon.com/Forgotten-Depression-Crash-Cured-Itself/dp/1451686463/

« Last Edit: December 29, 2020, 11:59:42 PM by HK_Vol »

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Re: What dont you like about Trump?
« Reply #26 on: December 29, 2020, 11:06:30 PM »
OrangeAfroMan said, without evidence 

"One specific thing I dislike about him is the fact that he doesn't give a fuck that people are dying from covid  He couldn't care less.  It's a minor nuisance when reporters are close enough to yell questions about it at him.

He doesn't give a fuck."

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