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Topic: We owe it all to Bernie Sanders!

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fuzzynavol

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We owe it all to Bernie Sanders!
« on: January 23, 2019, 08:00:59 AM »
A majority of the public supports a single-payer health insurance system, often called Medicare for All, as the idea gains steam among Democrats, according to a new poll.

The poll from the Kaiser Family Foundation finds that 56 percent of the public supports a single-payer, Medicare for All plan, compared to 42 percent who oppose the idea.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/poll-56-percent-of-public-supports-medicare-for-all/ar-BBSCfiV?li=BBnbfcL

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Re: We owe it all to Bernie Sanders!
« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2019, 08:05:31 AM »
Great!

Now tell us how we're going to pay for all this "free stuff."

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Re: We owe it all to Bernie Sanders!
« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2019, 08:07:29 AM »
I don't think anyone owes anything to BS as he has yet to get anything done.

I'm sure the verbiage from the Dems is going to be epic.  

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« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2019, 08:09:57 AM »
Yeah, decades of tinkering and meddling with our healthcare system by politicians and bureaucrats followed by the disastrous impact of Obamacare has led many people to just throw up their hands and embrace single-payer.

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Re: We owe it all to Bernie Sanders!
« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2019, 08:14:09 AM »
No doubt the >56% expects the <42% to pay for it.....

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Re: We owe it all to Bernie Sanders!
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2019, 08:30:07 AM »
Medicare for all is not going to work.  The quality of healthcare will suffer in inferior care or no care at all.  It does not matter whether our liberal friends believe it or not.  Probably what will happen is that poor people will get the socialized care and rich people will be able to pay for their own care.

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Re: We owe it all to Bernie Sanders!
« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2019, 09:06:25 AM »



If you want to know what socialized medicine will be like just ask a disabled veteran.




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Re: We owe it all to Bernie Sanders!
« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2019, 05:33:51 PM »
I think that the future is direct primary care tied with catastrophic.
Much, much cheaper, but covers you in case of something serious like cancer, car wreck, etc.

http://www.medicaleconomics.com/money/value-direct-pay-monthly-fee-physicians-and-patients

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There are two big differences between a traditional and a direct primary care (DPC) practice:

The doctor is paid directly by patients, not insurance (or other third-parties)
The patient doesn’t pay for office visits, instead paying a low monthly fee (typically about $50 per month).
The monthly payment is enabled by the freedom from insurance billing and codes, so the two changes are tied closely together. 

https://www.nwitimes.com/niche/get-healthy/health-care/portage-doctor-doesn-t-accept-insurance-charges-patients-a-monthly/article_f1e57991-6878-549d-baf3-3252c81d1610.html

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Ames said the typical practice has overhead of more than 60 percent, has to see 20 to 25 patients a day and has a patient load of 2,000 to 2,500. By comparison, direct primary care offices have overhead of less than 30 percent, don't need to see a set amount of patients per day, and have 500 to 700 patients.

Ames' subscription is $20 per month for children, $75 for adults aged 51-64, and $50 or less for all other adults.


https://www.wral.com/patients-pay-monthly-fee-not-insurance-co-pay-to-see-raleigh-physician/15185869/

Patients also can get lab tests, medical procedures and even prescriptions on-site, often at prices that are lower than insurance co-pays.

"I take two kinds of blood pressure medication. Before, they would cost me $43 for a month, and now they cost me $11," Smith said.

Walsh also noted that she can provide patients with a powerful antibiotic for sinus infections or bronchitis for 25 cents instead of the $25 usually charged by insurance because she negotiates directly with lab companies and pharmaceutical suppliers. When she tells them she's not working with insurance, she said, they give her a low price.


http://privatepracticedirect.com/new-kind-doctors-office-charges-monthly-fee-doesnt-take-insurance-future-medicine/

 

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