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Re: Va., Pa.,Ky. and other states anti 2nd amendment actions and reactions
« Reply #14 on: February 16, 2020, 11:38:45 PM »
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VA Democrats Pass Bill Making Suppressor Possession a Felony
« Reply #15 on: February 17, 2020, 10:25:20 AM »
Democrats on Virginia’s House of Delegates Public Safety Committee passed legislation Friday making it a felony to possess a suppressor in the state after July 1, 2020.
The felony applies to all suppressors, including those legally purchased through the federal background check and registered with the ATF.



The Washington Examiner reports the ban is expected to pass in the full Democrat-controlled House of Delegates. The opportunity to stop the ban will occur in the Senate, where a few Democrats have expressed hesitancy to support bans on firearms or certain accessories.
For example, on January 29, 2020, Breitbart News reported Virginia State Sen. Lynwood Lewis (D) made clear he will not support a magazine or firearm bans. He indicated his focus in solely on strengthening laws that deal with access to firearms, not laws that prohibit certain firearms or related hardware.
The bill that bans suppressor possession also bans “high capacity” magazines, making it precisely the type of legislation Lewis said he would not support.
Gov. Ralph Northam (D) made his plans for a war on guns clear in early November 2019 and has not relented. Since then Virginia Democrats have put forward legislation criminalizing private gun sales and punishing gun owners for not reporting stolen guns within 24 hours. They have also introduced legislation banning certain ammunition magazines, suppressors, and requiring owners of certain rifles to acquire a license from the state police.
Virginia Democrats are also pushing legislation to mandate that law-abiding citizens are not allowed to buy more than one handgun a month.


https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/02/09/va-democrats-pass-bill-making-suppressor-possession-a-felony/?fbclid=IwAR0qA9u8IM3DjkHwE0PMPBHXaHPBefKTYPHV9byjbMjaOId6kQpL7IgRsYI
President Harry S. Truman said: “The fundamental basis of this nation’s laws was given to Moses on the Mount.  The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings…  If we don't have the proper fundamental moral background, we will finally wind up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the state.”

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Re: Va., Pa.,Ky. and other states anti 2nd amendment actions and reactions
« Reply #16 on: February 17, 2020, 02:09:30 PM »
the commonwealth's senate tabled the weapons bill for a year.... that makes their next election cycle pretty important for both sides.  i figure even if they do get it through next year, it still has to pass the court- and.... i just don't see how that is going to happen without changes to the constitution which binds the hands of those tyrants. 

if virginia isn't a wake up call to the importance of voting, AND of voter ID's- i don't know what is... furthermore, while all the attention was on weapons- they were busy as could be with other aspects of tyranny- namely, the governor is attempting to increase gubernatorial terms to 8 years.... there are other things going on too- which should demonstrate the noise of attacking 2A, while obviously important, is used more as a smokescreen/distraction as anything else. 

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Re: Va., Pa.,Ky. and other states anti 2nd amendment actions and reactions
« Reply #17 on: February 17, 2020, 02:38:05 PM »
Voting in my opinion is an opiate of the masses.

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Re: Va., Pa.,Ky. and other states anti 2nd amendment actions and reactions
« Reply #18 on: February 17, 2020, 02:40:09 PM »
i fear you're right. 

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Re: Va., Pa.,Ky. and other states anti 2nd amendment actions and reactions
« Reply #19 on: February 17, 2020, 02:54:55 PM »
the commonwealth's senate tabled the weapons bill for a year.... that makes their next election cycle pretty important for both sides.  i figure even if they do get it through next year, it still has to pass the court- and.... i just don't see how that is going to happen without changes to the constitution which binds the hands of those tyrants.

if virginia isn't a wake up call to the importance of voting, AND of voter ID's- i don't know what is... furthermore, while all the attention was on weapons- they were busy as could be with other aspects of tyranny- namely, the governor is attempting to increase gubernatorial terms to 8 years.... there are other things going on too- which should demonstrate the noise of attacking 2A, while obviously important, is used more as a smokescreen/distraction as anything else.
But they have passed others measures, some are still waiting to come out of committee and they have passed a attempt to have the Electoral College vote for whoever ever wins the most votes nationally 
This delay is most likely because they are waiting on something. Cover from DC, Dem. Pres. etc/ who knows. They ain't done and anybody that thinks they are is fooling tenlesves 
President Harry S. Truman said: “The fundamental basis of this nation’s laws was given to Moses on the Mount.  The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings…  If we don't have the proper fundamental moral background, we will finally wind up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the state.”

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Re: Va., Pa.,Ky. and other states anti 2nd amendment actions and reactions
« Reply #20 on: February 17, 2020, 03:41:47 PM »
Can anyone explain why a limit on number of guns one can buy in a month reduces crime?

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Wolf calls for action on gun violence
« Reply #21 on: February 17, 2020, 04:55:26 PM »
Gov. Tom Wolf is calling on the Pennsylvania Legislature to approve his proposals to curb gun violence.
In his budget address Tuesday, Wolf said lawmakers should approve background checks for all gun purchases, stronger reporting requirements for lost and stolen firearms, safe storage practices, and red flag laws to take guns from people deemed a danger to themselves or others.
He also wants legislation to ban partially manufactured firearms that can be used to build unserialized and untraceable guns, commonly called “ghost guns.”
“No law can eliminate every act of gun violence, but the steps I’m proposing are supported by the evidence and supported by the vast majority of Pennsylvanians,” Wolf said in his speech. “We can pass them tomorrow, and by doing so we could make our commonwealth safer.”
“To let another session go by without action would be a failure of imagination that will cost lives,” he added.
Wolf’s proposed budget directs $6 million to gun violence prevention programs through the Pennsylvania Commission on Crime and Delinquency and $4 million to the Philadelphia Gun Violence Task Force.



https://www.abc27.com/news/pennsylvania/wolf-calls-for-action-on-gun-violence/?fbclid=IwAR1YDM3SqCVHGbPirgJx-nx0-7ADxhe1TVuDA_fuk92oWN1Mr5HaI4btwDY
President Harry S. Truman said: “The fundamental basis of this nation’s laws was given to Moses on the Mount.  The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings…  If we don't have the proper fundamental moral background, we will finally wind up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the state.”

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President Harry S. Truman said: “The fundamental basis of this nation’s laws was given to Moses on the Mount.  The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings…  If we don't have the proper fundamental moral background, we will finally wind up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the state.”

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Lawmakers Seek to Sock Gun, Ammo Buyers with New Taxes
« Reply #23 on: February 18, 2020, 10:41:06 AM »

Democrats in Connecticut and Illinois are proposing legislation that would add taxes ranging from 10 to 35 percent on gun and ammo sales
In the Constitution State, Connecticut state Rep. Jillian Gilchrest, D-West Hartford, is backing House Bill 5040 which would add a 35 percent per round excise tax on ammunition. The move is a scaled-down version of a similar measure she introduced last year that sought a 50 percent bump in ammo prices. The tax money levied would go to “increase funding for gun violence prevention and reduction efforts.”
State gun rights groups have slammed the proposal.
“Clearly if such a law were passed, it would make practicing and maintaining proficiency with a firearm more difficult and will impact lower-income gun owners disproportionately,” said the Connecticut Citizens Defense League in a statement.
Illinois gun tax
Meanwhile, in the Land of Lincoln, state Sen. Ann Gillespie, D-Arlington Heights, is sponsoring Senate Bill 2468 to mandate a 10 percent retail sales tax on guns she terms “assault weapons” as well as magazines capable of more than 10 cartridges. The revenue would be funneled into a fund to “prevent gun violence in schools and State-owned buildings.”
As in Connecticut, state gun rights advocates, vowing litigation if such a measure becomes law, argue the tax would impact most guns.
“Every modern handgun that’s not a revolver or a Derringer comes into play,” Todd Vandermyde with the Federal Firearms Licensees of Illinois, told the Telegraph.


https://www.guns.com/news/2020/02/11/lawmakers-seek-to-sock-gun-ammo-buyers-with-new-taxes?fbclid=IwAR1TgFyld0pD8dttXtdDASvUJzBZlhEAexxS0bWis3qV1A55RtQdnJu6rJk
President Harry S. Truman said: “The fundamental basis of this nation’s laws was given to Moses on the Mount.  The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings…  If we don't have the proper fundamental moral background, we will finally wind up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the state.”

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Colorado police confiscate guns with red flag law one day after it
« Reply #24 on: February 18, 2020, 06:07:31 PM »
took effect 

Excerpts from article:

...Colorado saw its first request to take guns away from a resident one day after the state's controversial 'red flag' law took effect.
...Some are skeptical of the new law due to its vague language, which allows weapons to be confiscated without criminal charges.
...While the law is still new, some have expressed concerns about the length of time weapons are held and the extremely high burden placed on respondents to restore their constitutional right.


...These laws encourage family members and law enforcement to petition a judge, which could end with an order to temporarily revoke a person's ability to possess firearms.

..."We obviously encourage people, who look at this law and look at what it allows, that if it is something that they think will make them safer, to go through the appropriate process with the courts to determine if that's what works best for them," stated Lt. John Koch of the Colorado Springs Police Department.


More at link
President Harry S. Truman said: “The fundamental basis of this nation’s laws was given to Moses on the Mount.  The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings…  If we don't have the proper fundamental moral background, we will finally wind up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the state.”

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pending and just mentioned Friday by “gun safety committee” in Pa
« Reply #25 on: February 18, 2020, 06:09:18 PM »
I don't know if anyone saw what happened Friday. Our Governor introduced the committee and the proposed bills that are already co-sponsored. All 29 of them. 2019-2020 Gun Safety Bills Awaiting Committee Action
 * HB 159 (Rep. Quinn) – Universal Background Checks: Subjects all firearm sales, regardless of barrel length, to background checks, and allows a person to obtain a 48-hour background check approval for a licensed gun show. Permits the issuance of a single background check approval that would remain valid for multiple days for use at gun shows across the Commonwealth.

* HB 162 (Rep. Zabel) – Firearms: One Purchase a Month: Prohibits individuals from purchasing more than one handgun every 30 days.
* HB 165 (Rep. Donatucci) – Voluntary No Firearm Purchase List: Establishes a voluntary firearm purchase exclusion list and requires the Pennsylvania State Police to check the list as part of the PICS purchase or transfer approval procedure.
* HB 202 (Rep. Cruz) – Firearm Buyback Program: Establishes a statewide gun buyback program.
* HB 204 (Rep. Cruz) – Toy or Imitation Firearms: Prohibits the importation, manufacturing, sale, presentation for sale and distribution of imitation firearms, unless the toy or imitation has been designed and manufactured in such a way that it is obvious it is not a real firearm. Provides exceptions for sales outside the Commonwealth, use in theater or film, and antiques.
* HB 307 (Rep. Gainey) – Assault Weapons Ban: Bans the possession, purchase, transfer, use or manufacture of an assault weapon.
* HB 326 (Rep. Warren) – No-Fly List Firearms Ownership Prohibition: Prohibits anyone whose name appears on the FBI’s terrorist screening database from purchasing or possessing a firearm in Pennsylvania.
* HB 336 (Rep. Cruz) – Firearms on the Capitol Complex: Prohibits the carrying of firearms, rifles and shotguns on the Capitol Complex and requires lockers to be provided for the temporary checking of firearms.
* HB 344 (Rep. Cruz) – Shooting Range Background Checks: Requires patrons of a shooting range to complete a gun rental application, which shall include a background check, before they may be approved to rent a firearm. The approval must be renewed yearly.
* HB 377 (Rep. Isaacson) – Destroying Confiscated or Recovered Firearms: Requires that law enforcement agencies in the Commonwealth destroy confiscated or recovered firearms if the owner cannot be found within 120 days.
* HB 378 (Rep. Isaacson) – Prohibiting the Mentally Ill from Possessing Firearms: Prohibits the possession of firearms by individuals who have been ordered to undergo involuntary mental health treatment on an outpatient basis.
* HB 459 (Rep. Cruz) – Pennsylvania State Police Notifications: Amends the Uniform Firearms Act to require that the Pennsylvania State Police be notified within 72 hours, instead of the current 7 days, that an individual has received mental health adjudication, treatment, commitment, or suffers from substance abuse or addiction.
* HB 462 (Rep. Cruz) – Pennsylvania State Police Notifications: Amends the Mental Health Procedures Act to require that the Pennsylvania State Police be notified within 72 hours, instead of the current 7 days, that an individual has been adjudicated incompetent, has been involuntarily committed to a mental institution for inpatient care and treatment, or who has been involuntarily treated.
* HB 467 (Rep. Cruz) – Firearms Eligibility License: Requires individuals wishing to purchase a firearm to first obtain a firearms eligibility license.
* HB 525 (Rep. Briggs) – Protecting Children from Accidental Gun Injuries and Deaths: Requires a person who stores or leaves a firearm on premises under his or her control, and who knows that a minor would be likely to gain access to the firearm without permission of a parent or guardian, to keep the firearm in a locked container or other secure location.
* HB 532 (Rep. Warren) – Safe Storage of Firearms When Residing With An Individual Not to Possess Firearms: Requires the safe storage of firearms if the owner resides with an individual who may not legally possess a firearm.
* HB 673 (Rep. Warren) – Background Checks: Eliminates all but the family transfer exception to the requirement of a background check prior to purchasing or transferring a firearm.
* HB 699 (Rep. McCarter and Rep. Sturla) – 3D Printed Firearms: Prohibits individuals from 3D printing a firearm and requires all 3D printed firearms to be subject to the Uniform Firearm Act.
* HB 700 (Rep. McCarter and Rep. Sturla) – Prohibiting Undetectable Firearms: Prohibits the manufacturing, sale, and possession of undetectable firearms.
* HB 724 (Rep. DeLuca) – Concealed Carry Permit Training: Requires individuals to complete a six hour firearm training program with a certified firearms instructor approved by the National Rifle Association prior to receiving a concealed carry permit.
* HB 726 (Rep. DeLuca) – Consecutive Sentences for Firearm Charges: Provides for consecutive sentences for firearm charges with respect to mandatory five-year sentencing upon conviction of a violent crime with a firearm.
* HB 738 (Rep. Kirkland) – Ammunition Purchases: Requires an individual to present photographic identification when purchasing firearm ammunition.
* HB 740 (Rep. Kirkland) – Firearm: Toy Purchases: Prohibits the purchase of realistic toy firearms by individuals under 18 years of age, unless they are accompanied by an adult at the time of purchase.
* HB 768 (Rep. Cruz) – Firearms Registration: Requires most firearm owners to register their firearms with the Pennsylvania State Police.
* HB 1028 (Rep. McCarter) – Firearm Restraining Orders: Allows a law enforcement officer, family or household member, person licensed under the Social Workers, Marriage and Family Therapists and Professional Counselors Act, or a health care practitioner to petition the court for a firearm restraining order enjoining a person from purchasing, otherwise receiving or possessing a firearm, ammunition or other weapon.
* HB 1162 (Rep. Schweyer) – Minimum Age of 21 to Purchase Semiautomatic Firearms: Prohibits the sale or possession of an assault weapon by individuals below the age of 21 and establishes a definition for assault weapons.
* HB 1288 (Rep. Sanchez) – Lost and Stolen Firearms: Requires a person who lawfully owns or possesses a firearm to report the loss or theft within 72 hours of the discovery of the loss or theft and establishes penalties for violations.
* HB 1289 (Rep. Sanchez) – Rapid Fire or “Multiburst Trigger Activators”: Updates the state’s definition of “offensive weapons” to include “multiburst trigger activators,” thus outlawing them.
* HB 1075 (Rep. Stephens) – Extreme Risk Protection Orders: Establishes extreme risk protection orders, which permit a judge to temporarily revoke a dangerous individual’s right to possess or purchase a firearm.

President Harry S. Truman said: “The fundamental basis of this nation’s laws was given to Moses on the Mount.  The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings…  If we don't have the proper fundamental moral background, we will finally wind up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the state.”

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President Harry S. Truman said: “The fundamental basis of this nation’s laws was given to Moses on the Mount.  The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings…  If we don't have the proper fundamental moral background, we will finally wind up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the state.”

 

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