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Topic: Use Hydroxychloroquine and Open Up The Country

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gymvol

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Use Hydroxychloroquine and Open Up The Country
« on: April 14, 2020, 02:46:18 PM »
Since it's been effective in the treatment of COVID-19 why not give it to people and let them go back to work.

If we stay hunkered down behind close doors until DR. Fauci finds a vaccine or gets a book deal the country never will reopen.

We have a drug that works in preventing getting the virus so why aren't we using it?

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The world economy is collapsing because of the terror and mounting death toll caused by the Coronavirus pandemic. But the anti-malarial drug chloroquine is effective both as a prophylactic and treatment for the virus – and the medical establishment has known about this since at least the SARS coronavirus outbreak in 2005. What the hell is going on?

This has since been confirmed by a more recent open-label non-randomised clinical trial in France by Didier Raoult M.D/Ph.D et al, completed just days ago. The sample was small but the results were convincing.

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100% of patients that received a combination of HCQ and Azithromycin tested negative and were virologically cured within 6 days of treatment.

In addition, recent guidelines from South Korea and China report that hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine are effective antiviral therapeutic treatments for novel coronavirus.

But the story gets more extraordinary still. It turns out that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has known since at least 2005 that chloroquine is effective against coronaviruses.

In 2005, Martin J Vincent et al published a study in Virology Journal titled ‘Chloroquine is a potent inhibitor of SARS coronavirus infection and spread.’

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/03/19/chloroquine-known-as-effective-against-coronavirus-since-2005/
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Re: Use Hydroxychloroquine and Open Up The Country
« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2020, 02:52:35 PM »
We simply can't do that because

Orange man bad....................

FORWARD......to a Biden/Bernie/AOC economy.

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Re: Use Hydroxychloroquine and Open Up The Country
« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2020, 05:41:38 PM »


Someone at FOXNEWS must be reading this message board I heard it just a little bit ago saying that we could use Hydroxychloroquine as a prophylactic to put people back to work and open up areas of the country. 
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« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2020, 08:04:52 PM »

Someone at FOXNEWS must be reading this message board I heard it just a little bit ago saying that we could use Hydroxychloroquine as a prophylactic to put people back to work and open up areas of the country.
Dude. They've been peddling out this narrative for weeks because your Supreme Leader thinks, "what have you got to lose". 

Was it this Fixed News piece? 


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« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2020, 09:20:50 PM »
There is a difference between an in vitro study and a large double blind in vivo human study.


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« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2020, 09:21:19 AM »
Dude. They've been peddling out this narrative for weeks because your Supreme Leader thinks, "what have you got to lose".

Was it this Fixed News piece?

No it was not if you had read what I posted you would know instead of commenting on the heading of the OP

But if you're dying what have you got to lose?  You and anyone would try anything to save their life.

If you kept up with real news instead of the shit CNN fills your head with you would know survivors of the virus who were saved by using the drug Hydroxychloroquine met with president Tuesday.  It was on other news outlets if you would tune in.

One of them was a black democrat legislator who was thanking the president for saving her life. Because of him she found out about the drug and was able to get it.

Do you want a little barbecue sauce on that crow?  :D


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Trump meets with COVID-19 survivors, an overlooked group

Michigan state legislator praises Trump for pushing malaria drug: 'I wouldn't be here today'

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/apr/14/trump-meets-covid-19-survivors-overlooked-group/
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« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2020, 09:24:03 AM »
Before I jump on the CHQ bandwgon, I'd like to see a well run double blind clinical study of its efficacy, not some in vitro test or what a bunch of people say anecdotally.

It is very POSSIBLE people get better normally and the CHQ medication added nothing.

I HOPE it works.  I've yet to see compelling scientific evidence.

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« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2020, 09:37:38 AM »


Cincy if we wait on you and Dr Fauci to run all your clinical trials we will all be bankrupt and rioting in the streets fighting for crumbs.

Read the article the drug has been proven to be effective since 2005.
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« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2020, 09:42:25 AM »
As I noted, the cited article relates to an in vitro test on a general corona virus, not COVID.

It is not a compelling piece of evidence.  That is why so many real clinical trials are being run now.

I hope they generate a positive result.  

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« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2020, 09:47:11 AM »
https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/miracle-cure-testimonials-aside-azithromycin-and-hydroxychloroquine-probably-do-not-work-against-covid-19/

The bottom line is that this study is also uninformative. For one thing, a 0.5% fatality rate is at the low end of current estimates and might even be the “true” case fatality rate when all cases of mild and asymptomatic infections are included in the denominator. This study certainly doesn’t show that Raoult’s treatment was responsible for the low mortality rate.

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« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2020, 09:54:46 AM »
Drug was approved by the FDA in 1955.  Per the WHO (which are lib friends love) it is one of the safest and effective drugs needed for world health.  

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« Reply #11 on: April 15, 2020, 10:08:41 AM »
Drug was approved by the FDA in 1955.  Per the WHO (which are lib friends love) it is one of the safest and effective drugs needed for world health. 
That is generally true, but obviously doesn't mean it's a panacea and treats everything.  It was designed to treat/prevent malaria and has use against lupus.  Does it treat influenza?  Probably not.  Does it treat corona virus?  Hopefully is does, BUT WE DO NOT KNOW.

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« Reply #12 on: April 15, 2020, 10:10:11 AM »
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/15/coronavirus-us-clinical-trials-of-hydroxychloroquine-hit-warp-speed.html

The drug is proven to work in treating Lupus and rheumatoid arthritis, but not Covid-19. A handful of small studies on its use in coronavirus patients published in France and China has raised hope that the drug might help fight the virus.

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« Reply #13 on: April 15, 2020, 10:12:11 AM »
Hydroxychloroquine, which is available as a generic drug and is also produced under the brand name Plaquenil by French drugmaker Sanofi, can have serious side effects, including muscle weakness and heart arrhythmia. A small study in Brazil was halted this month for safety reasons after coronavirus patients taking chloroquine, which hydroxychloroquine is derived from, developed arrhythmia, including some who died.

“Because older populations tend to have more heart problems, we don’t want to put anyone in harm’s way for a drug that might not work,” Bershteyn said. “If the drug turns out to have a benefit, then it comes to each patient weighing the risk versus the benefits.”


 

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