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« Reply #14 on: March 19, 2021, 08:54:52 PM »
China is MUCH better at the global domination game than we are.  They are as Godless as our Left.  But they are not self-hating Woke neurotic and psychotic pussies who hate their own country.

Trump was beating them.  They took care of him, with a novel virus.  And they’re taking care of us.  In the same sense that Bama “takes care” of UT.



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« Reply #15 on: March 20, 2021, 10:05:07 AM »
China is MUCH better at the global domination game than we are.  They are as Godless as our Left.  
“Whenever a nation’s laws no longer reflect the standards of God, that nation is in rebellion against Him and will inevitably bear the consequences.”


Maybe they are on borrowed time ....

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« Reply #16 on: March 20, 2021, 10:42:36 AM »
“Whenever a nation’s laws no longer reflect the standards of God, that nation is in rebellion against Him and will inevitably bear the consequences.”


Maybe they are on borrowed time ....
In this world we are all on borrowed time 
President Harry S. Truman said: “The fundamental basis of this nation’s laws was given to Moses on the Mount.  The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings…  If we don't have the proper fundamental moral background, we will finally wind up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the state.”

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« Reply #17 on: March 20, 2021, 10:45:23 AM »
China has persisted in one form or another for thousands of years, obviously.  They even contrived to make a "Great Fleet" of discovery, but then pulled back.  Had they not, we might all be speaking Chinese now.

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« Reply #18 on: March 20, 2021, 02:54:19 PM »
Watch Tucker Carlson eviscerate the Biden administration and the American baizuo.  I think they have the left pegged perfectly.   We know who the baizuo on this board are, don't we?  


The Chinese know very well with whom they’re dealing - American Thinker

On Thursday, during a meeting in Anchorage, China’s top diplomat and its Foreign Minister showed Secretary of State Tony Blinken (an empty suit) and national security adviser Jake Sullivan stunning disrespect. It was almost as if the Chinese knew that these are weak, self-loathing, confused men – and it turns out they did know. Tucker Carlson revealed on Friday that the Chinese have a word for Biden and the other White wokesters now in power. They call them “baizuo,” and can describe their values with stunning and disdainful accuracy.

Blinken opened the meeting with a two-minute attack against China for its failure to follow global rules and norms. To his credit, he did mention “our deep concerns with actions by China, including Xinjiang, Hong Kong, Taiwan, cyber-attacks on the United States, [and] economic coercion towards our allies.” However, he somehow failed to mention either COVID or the Uighurs – that his actual or negligent biological warfare and mass genocide. Hmmm.

The Chinese were not impressed. Top Diplomat Yang Jiechi, who was there with Foreign Minister Wang Yi, launched into an 18-minute long lecture against America which showed how closely the Chinese watch American news. He castigated America for an election that caused many Americans to doubt our democracy, the way Black Lives Matter highlighted human rights problems, Washington’s many alleged cyberattacks, and America’s habit of meddling in foreign affairs. It was the verbal equivalent of slapping Blinken across the face with a glove and calling him a knave and a churl.

Tucker Carlson touched upon all these things in his opening monologue on Friday night. He made it clear that America is governed by a feckless, ignorant political class and that the Chinese are miles ahead of us in understanding who we are – and, more significantly, in understand who America’s new leadership class is.


As part of that understanding, the Chinese have coined a term – “baizuo” – which roughly means “White liberal” (although it applies with equal accuracy to non-Whites such as Obama and Kamala Harris). Tucker adds that “it is definitely not a compliment.” The stunner is how Chinese state media defines the term baizuo:


“There are people who only care about topics such as immigration, minorities, LGBT, and the environment, who have no sense of real problems in the real world, who only advocate for peace and equality to satisfying their own feelings of superiority, and who are so obsessed with political correctness that they tolerate backward Islamic values for the sake of multiculturalism.”
Other observations about baisuo as reported by Chinese state media include the fact that they “advocate inclusiveness and antidiscrimination but cannot tolerate different opinions.” Baizuo’s political opinions are “so shallow that they tend to maintain social equality by embracing ideologies that run against the basic concept of equality.”


https://youtu.be/88TdAbqJliU

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« Reply #19 on: March 20, 2021, 03:27:52 PM »
Thirty years ago, China was not a major player.  They had been decimated by Marxist rule and ideology.  Their Cultural Revolution had been far more devastating and crippling, even than the one we are in the midst of (but “just you wait, ‘enry ‘iggins…”).

That is obviously no longer the case.  

The reasons for China’s ascendancy, and America’s freefall, are well documented.  

China will not “control the world”.  But China is a template for the coming one-world order, which will be prevailed over — briefly — by “Satan’s Superman” — what we call “the Anti-Christ”.  What the Bible has a number of appellations for:  “the Beast”, “the son of Perdition”, “the lawless one”, et. al.

We are moving toward a Godless global society and economy based on marketing, consumerism, and total control — which extends to mind control.  You cannot “think freely” (LOL — I laugh every time I see that phrase, used by a certain well-known shallow thinker on this site) if you are prevented from obtaining the information, or even the thought patterns, to think anything beyond what you are prescribed to think.

This is happening with lightning speed.  The dam has been filling for generations.  Covid has increased the flow dramatically.  The water is spilling over the top.  Dam burst is inevitable.

But the nature of these proceedings is such that most of the sleeping masses will never notice.  When they cancel the few voices operating in opposition to the process — e.g., FoxNews — and as long as the Wal-Mart stays open, with fresh eggs, cold beer and milk, and cheap commodities…

Who’s gonna notice a few dissidents being carted off to internment camps, “re-education centers”?  Besides, it won’t be reported.  And the majority will consider it “for their own good.”  After all, “the experts recommend it…”.  “In the interest of the public good/health/safety…”.   



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« Reply #20 on: March 20, 2021, 07:41:07 PM »
After that Chinese rant, if I had been Blinkin, I would have said,

"It is obvious your rant is for domestic consumption with your "Wolf Warrior" posturing.  If you're going to come in and berate those you are negotiating with and having a conversation with, bullying them as you consider yourself above those you are conversing with, then we're done here.  Have a nice trip back to Beijing".  

I'd then have gotten up with the rest of the team, walked out, and headed back to Washington DC.


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« Reply #22 on: March 21, 2021, 10:09:46 AM »
Blinken is a pathetic man. A woke coward who represents a cowardly woke administration. The only thing the China diplomat didn’t do as he verbally towered over Blinken was to get up, walk across the room, and bitch slap Blinken. 

I’d like to bitch slap Blinken for uttering the words “America is back”. Back to being the worlds bitch under weak pathetic leadership. China’s diplomats would never consider being so bold under Trump but they know weak when they see it.

It’s my personal take that China knows they have Biden where they want him. They know he and his son Hunter are compromised and they have the goods to prove it so they can now push America around.

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« Reply #23 on: March 21, 2021, 07:14:29 PM »
https://hk.appledaily.com/news/20210322/F54BGB3HYNC3ZOTROH2DNAIIXY/


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The hardline performance of Yang Jiechi, the Communist Party’s — and therefore China’s — top foreign policy official during heated exchanges on the first day of the meeting won applause from some Chinese netizens for “standing up” to the U.S.

But that performance had reduced Yang to the level of Hu Xijin, the sabre-rattling editor of the nationalist tabloid and Party mouthpiece Global Times, according to Taiwan political scientist Fan Shih-ping.

The strain in relations between the two countries would result in closer ties between Taiwan and the United States, Fan said.

Yang’s reiteration in Alaska of Chinese claims over Taiwan drew a strong rebuttal from the government in Taipei.

Taiwan’s Mainland Affairs Council said that Taiwan had never belonged to the People’s Republic of China and that this would continue to be the case.

The future of Taiwan and its development were matters that only the 23 million people living there had a right to decide on, it said.

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« Reply #24 on: March 21, 2021, 07:21:04 PM »
If I'm China, I figure I'm winning, and any military conflict any time soon would put that in some doubt.  The US still has a very capable Military capacity.  Why test it?

Just keep plodding along.  You'll get enough feckless US Administrations gullible enough to stand aside at key points.

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« Reply #25 on: March 21, 2021, 07:27:33 PM »
If you want to be depressed (2 novels based in underlying facts):

2034: A Novel of the Next World War 
by Elliot Ackerman  (Author), James Admiral Stavridis USN (Author)


https://www.amazon.com/2034-Novel-Next-World-War/dp/1984881256/

Ghost Fleet: A Novel of the Next World War
by P. W. Singer and August Cole


https://www.amazon.com/Ghost-Fleet-Novel-Next-World/dp/054470505X/











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« Reply #26 on: March 27, 2021, 04:06:03 AM »
China is NOT our friend - act accordingly..
I will support those companies that are intentionally targeted by China (e.g. H&M).


https://www.wsj.com/articles/beijing-targets-american-business-11616783268?mod=hp_opin_pos_3

Beijing Targets American Business
The U.S. and China’s Communist Party are strategic and ideological competitors.
CEOs have to decide which side they want to help win.


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General Secretary Xi Jinping, seated before a mural of the Great Wall of China, beamed himself to business elites in Davos, Switzerland, in late January. He urged them to resist efforts by European and American policy makers to “decouple” segments of their economies from China’s. Mr. Xi also wrote a personal letter to a prominent U.S. businessman exhorting him to “make active efforts to promote China-U.S. economic and trade cooperation.”

To make clear that these were requirements, not suggestions, Beijing announced sanctions on nearly 30 current or former U.S. government officials (me among them). These were in addition to the sanctions Beijing placed on American human-rights activists, pro-democracy foundations and some U.S. senators last year.

Beijing’s message is unmistakable: You must choose. If you want to do business in China, it must be at the expense of American values. You will meticulously ignore the genocide of ethnic and religious minorities inside China’s borders; you must disregard that Beijing has reneged on its major promises—including the international treaty guaranteeing a “high degree of autonomy” for Hong Kong; and you must stop engaging with security-minded officials in your own capital unless it’s to lobby them on Beijing’s behalf.

Another notable element of Beijing’s approach is its explicit goal of making the world permanently dependent on China, and exploiting that dependency for political ends. Mr. Xi has issued guidance, institutionalized this month by his rubber-stamp parliament, that he’s pursuing a grand strategy of making China independent of high-end imports from industrialized nations while making those nations heavily reliant on China for high-tech supplies and as a market for raw materials. In other words, decoupling is precisely Beijing’s strategy—so long as it’s on Beijing’s terms.

Even more remarkable, the Communist Party is no longer hiding its reasons for pursuing such a strategy. In a speech Mr. Xi delivered early last year, published only in late October in the party’s leading theoretical journal, Qiu Shi, he said China “must tighten international production chains’ dependence on China” with the aim of “forming powerful countermeasures and deterrent capabilities.”

This phrase—“powerful countermeasures and deterrent capabilities”—is party jargon for offensive leverage. Beijing’s grand strategy is to accumulate and exert economic leverage to achieve its political objectives around the world.

So what should American CEOs do? First, they should come to grips with how much the situation has changed over the past few years—and acknowledge that those changes are almost certainly here to stay.

CEOs will find it increasingly difficult to please both Washington and Beijing. Mr. Biden’s strategic guidance flatly states: “We will ensure that U.S. companies do not sacrifice American values in doing business in China.” Chinese leaders, as mentioned, are issuing high-decibel warnings that multinationals must abandon such values as the price of doing business in China. Like sailors straddling two boats, American companies are likely to get wet.


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« Reply #27 on: March 27, 2021, 05:56:48 AM »
Of course Biden won't do anything - he owes them....

https://freebeacon.com/national-security/as-biden-caves-to-higher-ed-lobby-tennessee-seeks-to-ban-china-funded-confucius-institute/

As Biden Admin Caves on Confucius Institute, Tennessee Moves to Pick Up Slack
GOP Gov. Lee: 'It's increasingly a state issue when the federal government is not keeping a strong defense'

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As the federal response to Chinese influence at American universities falters, Tennessee is determined to pick up the slack by becoming the first state to ban the Chinese government-funded Confucius Institute from public universities.

After President Joe Biden scrapped a Trump-era proposal that would have required universities to disclose their foreign monetary ties, Governor Bill Lee realized that he needed to act quickly to protect the state's universities from Chinese influence. The Tennessee Republican introduced a bill in the state legislature that would require the public universities to sever ties with the Confucius Institute.

"The Biden administration has rolled back the transparency that was put in place by the Trump administration, so we want to take care of that at the state level," Lee told the Washington Free Beacon in a Tuesday morning interview.

The Tennessee bill is one of several state-level initiatives that seek to curtail foreign influence on American campuses. The Texas and Utah legislatures are debating bills that seek to close down Confucius Institute programs in state universities, according to a list of ongoing legislation maintained by the National Association of Scholars. Four other states are also considering bills with a wider scope, including measures to ban public universities from partnering not just with the Confucius Institute but with any "communist regimes" or "the government of China."


The White House is not solely to blame for the lackluster federal response. House Democrats have also blocked the passage of sweeping legislation against the Confucius Institute. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D., Calif.) refused to hold a vote on an anti-Confucius Institute bill that unanimously passed in the Senate in 2020. Lee said states must step up amid federal inaction.

Tennessee already leads the way in the nationwide effort to shut down the Confucius Institute. The state's public universities—which together received more than $2.5 million from Confucius Institute and its affiliates—are in the process of shutting down the Chinese government program. The bill's passage will ensure that the Confucius Institute will not be able to establish any foothold in Tennessee.

 

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