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ATexasVol

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The next hoax to be ginned up by the Dims
« on: August 17, 2020, 01:58:26 PM »
Democrats Schedule ‘Urgent Hearing’ on ‘Postal Service Sabotage’

https://www.breitbart.com/2020-election/2020/08/16/democrats-schedule-urgent-hearing-postal-service-sabotage/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&fbclid=IwAR1-4MaE5bCulmQMa64mqw1FaCrwHBsyEB4AyMxMGQk2o2ZXRl6_twsjrX8


Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) and fellow Democrats issued a press release Sunday:

The hearing will examine the sweeping operational and organizational changes at the Postal Service that experts warn could degrade delivery standards, slow the mail and potentially impair the rights of eligible Americans to cast their votes through the mail in the upcoming November elections. The Postmaster General and top Postal Service leadership must answer to the Congress and the American people as to why they are pushing these dangerous new policies that threaten to silence the voices of millions, just months before the election.

“The President has explicitly stated his intention to manipulate the Postal Service to deny eligible voters access to the ballot in pursuit of his own re-election,” the release said.

The announcement also accused DeJoy of acting as an “accomplice in the President’s campaign to cheat in the election, as he launches sweeping new operational changes that degrade delivery standards and delay the mail.”

However, White House trade and manufacturing adviser Peter Navarro alleged Sunday that Pelosi and Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) were trying to turn the postal service into a “ballot harvesting service.”

He continued:

Let’s think about it. First, the irony of what’s getting Chuck and Nancy back to Washington; it’s not concern about the working men and women of America, who really need our help right now. They want to come back so they can rename the post office the United States ballot harvesting service. So it’s unfortunate we get these – in the middle of the election – we get all these new cycle things going on that they seize upon.

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Re: The next hoax to be ginned up by the Dims
« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2020, 02:06:32 PM »
The democrats' only play here is to create confusion and chaos around the election for the sole purpose to obfuscate the integrity of the results, if need be.
When the left pushes the lies how Trump is rigging the election or how Trump won't accept the election results is another instance of Democratic projection. Stacey Abrams still thinks she should be the GA governor and Hillary still thinks she should be POTUS.

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Re: The next hoax to be ginned up by the Dims
« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2020, 02:54:38 PM »
Democrats Schedule ‘Urgent Hearing’ on ‘Postal Service Sabotage’

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Re: The next hoax to be ginned up by the Dims
« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2020, 03:08:15 PM »
Here is a thought:  don't do mail in voting.  Allow telephone voting requiring SSN and last years AGI for each person using the service. 

Fixed.

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Re: The next hoax to be ginned up by the Dims
« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2020, 04:10:13 PM »
I found it interesting that Pelosi recessed the House without attempting to find a compromise on th Covid Relief Bill that would have put money in the pockets of almost all Americans.
But she suddenly schedules an emergency session to investigate the Postmaster General.
She's much more concerned with not being able to steal millions of votes than she is in putting food on the table of those in need.
« Last Edit: August 18, 2020, 08:38:23 AM by roadvol »

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Re: The next hoax to be ginned up by the Dims
« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2020, 04:23:10 PM »

How about issuing people a voter registration card, show up with a photo ID and cast a ballot?

How is Trump going to manipulate the post office to keep people from voting hide all the stamps?

The rest of the world has to be laughing at these ignorant ass morons in the democrat party and some of their outlandish bull shit comments.

To think morons on the left want to give them control of nuclear weapons should strike fear world wide.
If everyone is thinking alike then somebody isn't thinking.

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Re: The next hoax to be ginned up by the Dims
« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2020, 04:56:19 PM »


Fuzzy, now your people are reporting that Trump is removing mailboxes to suppress votes.  How long before the House Dims start impeachment proceedings?  This would be funny except that there are so many people indoctrinated by your legitimate media.  

https://www.breitbart.com/2020-election/2020/08/17/pollak-democrats-go-postal-with-busted-mailbox-conspiracy-theory/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&fbclid=IwAR1iIe96dTkxlISlEgr0tO8wzehmqX67yl2QqoWQRYhCh5074wxliRpdgAg






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Re: The next hoax to be ginned up by the Dims
« Reply #8 on: August 17, 2020, 05:30:16 PM »
https://babylonbee.com/news/trump-drives-around-playing-mailbox-baseball-in-new-vote-suppression-scheme



U.S.—President Trump's vote suppression efforts seem to know no bounds, with his main efforts focused against the USPS to stop mail-in voting. In Trump’s latest attack on democracy, he is now driving around in a pickup truck playing “mailbox baseball” -- smashing mailboxes with a baseball bat to make it impossible for people to mail in their ballots.


“Try and vote for Biden now!” Trump was heard yelling as he knocked a mailbox off its post.

Trump is said to be traveling all over the country destroying mailboxes, and people are powerless to do anything. “I was going to send a letter to the police that they need to stop him,” said one concerned citizen, “but I don’t have a mailbox now, so I don’t know what to do!”

Trump has reportedly roped Vice President Pence into helping him, despite Pence’s wife telling him to stay away from Trump since he is a “bad influence.”

“I’m not sure this is a good idea,” Pence reportedly told Trump. “Plus I don’t really get how this helps us, since people have to vote for us, too.”

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6 Myths About U.S. Postal Service And The Election Debunked
« Reply #9 on: August 17, 2020, 05:40:32 PM »
Questions about the U.S. Postal Service operations and leadership during the November election are rising, but it can be hard to discern from corporate media coverage what is actually happening. Many different networks have accused President Trump of disrupting USPS operations for political gain, even going so far as to claim he wants to “rewrite history” in a “crusade” against postal services. 

On Sunday, Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi and other congressional Democrats called for Postmaster General Louis DeJoy and the USPS Board of Governors to testify in Congress about some of these myths and the “operational changes at the Postal Service that are slowing the mail and jeopardizing the integrity of the election.”


“The President has explicitly stated his intention to manipulate the Postal Service to deny eligible voters access to the ballot in pursuit of his own re-election. Alarmingly, the Postmaster General – a Trump mega-donor – has acted as an accomplice in the President’s campaign to cheat in the election, as he launches sweeping new operational changes that degrade delivery standards and delay the mail,” a press release from Pelosi reads.


Pelosi also called the House back for a special legislative session after multiple congressional Democrats requested an emergency session to determine the future of USPS and DeJoy, despite failing to pass a second coronavirus spending bill in the most recent term.

Although the left is determined to prove through myths that Trump wants to “steal” the election, here are some facts about USPS and the election that show a different side than the corporate media might lead you to believe.

1. USPS Is Not Required By The Constitution

Despite some leftist claims, postal services in the United States, while mentioned in the Constitution, are not mandated by it. Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution simply grants Congress “the Power […] To establish Post Office Boxes and Roads.”

While Congress legislated to ensure different mechanisms within the postal service would continue to run and mandated that the postmaster general report to the president, there is no guarantee beyond congressional resolutions and laws to dictate USPS’s existence.

2. USPS Was Created to Be a Financially Independent and Sustainable Agency
While USPS receives a “yearly appropriation of about $55 million,” it is considered an “independent agency” responsible for gaining and maintaining its own revenue. The agency does have the ability to ask additional appropriations and borrow money from the Treasury, and has recently received funds through the CARES Act coronavirus law from Congress, but generally relies on its own income from services.

Despite outlandish claims by the corporate media that USPS funding has dropped simply because of the emphasis on the election, U.S. postal services have been losing money for years. In 2019, the USPS racked up a deficit of $8.8 billion on its own accord.

3. Postmaster General Louis DeJoy Was Not Simply Appointed For His Republican Ties

Even though DeJoy has a history of donating to Republicans and the Trump campaign, he also “made a fortune in shipping and logistics” and previously had a company that was a “contractor of the Postal Service for many years.”

DeJoy was unanimously chosen in May by the USPS Board of Governors, who are “appointed by the president with advice and consent of the senate” and are limited in partisanship to “no more than 5 of the 10 Governors from the same party.”

4. USPS Will Not Cease Operations Before the Election
Despite its financial troubles and speculation from many about its operational state, USPS still has the resources and funds to continue operations through the election in November. As a matter of fact, the USPS quarterly report at the end of June testified that postal services have “sufficient liquidity to continue operating through at least August 2021.”

An official statement released by USPS also promised that recent financial troubles will not prevent them from attaining “projected Election and Political Mail volume.”


“The Postal Service has ample capacity to adjust our nationwide processing and delivery network to meet projected Election and Political Mail volume, including any additional volume that may result as a response to the COVID-19 pandemic,” the agency said in a statement.

5. Voter Fraud Through Mail-In Ballots Is Very Real
Corporate media recently made a fuss over President Trump and First Lady Melania Trump’s request for absentee ballots for the Florida primaries. President Trump has clarified that he has no problem with absentee ballots but opposes mass mail-in ballots due to fraud potential.

“Absentee ballots, by the way, are fine,” Trump previously said. “But the universal mail-ins that are just sent all over the place, where people can grab them and grab stacks of them, and sign them and do whatever you want, that’s the thing we’re against.”

There are many examples of recent voter fraud in the United States. In one local special election in Paterson, New Jersey, the “Postal Inspection Service found hundreds of ballots in one mailbox” as well as ballots that were “stolen (completed and empty) and filled out fraudulently, or were otherwise altered.”

“Absentee voting has the word absent in it for a reason. It means you’re absent from the jurisdiction or unable to vote in person,” White House Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany wrote in a statement. “President Trump is against the Democrat plan to politicize the coronavirus and expand mass mail-in voting without a reason, which has a high propensity for voter fraud. This is a simple distinction that the media fails to grasp.”

6. No, Trump Isn’t Stealing Your City’s Blue Mail Boxes
A viral tweet posted in early August showed a worker loading a truck with blue USPS collection boxes for transport in Portland. 

“Please share this picture far and wide. Trump is trying to steal the election. He is gutting the USPS to make it difficult for people to vote by mail. Here in Oregon, that’s our only option. This demands attention!” the tweet read.


The conspiracy gained traction with many notable figures including Joe Biden, Taylor Swift, and members of Congress, with many tweeting about the issue on Twitter.

According to one reporter, Biden also spoke out at a virtual fundraising event claiming that “They’re going around literally with tractor trailers picking up mailboxes. You oughta go online and check out what they’re doing in Oregon. I mean, it’s bizarre!”

Postal Service spokesman Steve Doherty said the removal of many of the collection boxes is “standard procedure” for general upkeep. The USPS website also states that “If the box is owned and maintained by the US Postal Service and is damaged/broken,” the local Post Office is responsible for its maintenance.

In addition to maintenance, local news outlets in Portland reported that some of the collection boxes were being spread around the city to avoid crowding and duplicates.

Others also speculated that mailboxes were being locked creating an “immediate threat to American democracy,” but these rumors were quickly debunked after Richard J. Maher, a USPS spokesman in Los Angeles and Orange counties, explained the locks were to prevent a recent uptick in mail theft.

“We do this where we have had incidents, or there is a problem where the box may be out in a not very well lit public place. The boxes have been retrofitted all over Southern California,” he said.



https://thefederalist.com/2020/08/17/6-myths-about-u-s-postal-service-and-the-election-debunked/?fbclid=IwAR05mx_hdwFd7nVoAOWC7uSTCGEvshO7dRAjuncxFUcjS4BsCMox2mTlDyE
President Harry S. Truman said: “The fundamental basis of this nation’s laws was given to Moses on the Mount.  The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings…  If we don't have the proper fundamental moral background, we will finally wind up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the state.”

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Re: The next hoax to be ginned up by the Dims
« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2020, 05:44:14 PM »
USPS Filed A Patent For A Blockchain-Based Secure-Voting System
It has recently been unearthed that he USPS filed for a patent on February 7, 2020 for a "Secure Voting System" that uses a blockchain access layer. Obviously, this could be one of the strongest signals of a welcome adaptation to blockchain by the U.S. government since blockchain was thrust on the map by Bitcoin.
"A voting system can use the security of blockchain and the mail to provide a reliable voting system," the patent application says. "A registered voter receives a computer readable code in the mail and confirms identity and confirms correct ballot information in an election. The system separates voter identification and votes to ensure vote anonymity, and stores votes on a distributed ledger in a blockchain."
Equally as interesting as the patent application was filed before the coronavirus had wreaked total havoc on the country and long before the idea of mail in voting was being tossed around by pundits and the mainstream media on the daily.

The patent, titled “Methods and Systems for a Digital Trust Architecture,” notes that users today cannot always be sure that online transactions are secure and trustworthy.

https://www.zerohedge.com/crypto/usps-just-filed-patent-blockchain-based-secure-voting-system

which plays right into the subject of harvesting data... https://www.cfb51.com/area-51/fascinating-circumstance/

which, none is secure.. none... data is accessed, altered and/or removed, and as if nothing happened. 

there are some groups who would LOVE to see that system.  they'd own an even larger piece of real estate than they do now.   

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Re: The next hoax to be ginned up by the Dims
« Reply #11 on: August 17, 2020, 08:47:45 PM »
Had package mailed via the USPS that was at the Miami International Airport on July 3.
I got the package on August 14.
42 days to get a package.


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Re: The next hoax to be ginned up by the Dims
« Reply #12 on: August 17, 2020, 11:54:40 PM »
Here is a thought:  don't do mail in voting.  Allow telephone voting requiring SSN and last years AGI for each person using the service. 

Fixed.
Won't work. Discrimination against those that don't know their SSN or what AGI is. ~???

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