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Topic: The Mueller Report is delivered to DoJ

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highVOLtage

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Re: The Mueller Report is delivered to DoJ
« Reply #14 on: March 23, 2019, 06:51:05 AM »

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Re: The Mueller Report is delivered to DoJ
« Reply #15 on: March 23, 2019, 07:00:24 AM »
This is entertaining.

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Re: The Mueller Report is delivered to DoJ
« Reply #16 on: March 23, 2019, 07:44:04 AM »
Given the 2 years of pure shit coming out of that office and nothing has been done yet....

I say nothing.

Nothing matters anymore.
I'm still confused by this post.  Does "that office" refer to Mueller's office?  Or more likely "Trump"?  Let's presume he means "Trump's office" and stipulate that bad things have come from Trump for two years.  How would that be connected with Mueller's investigation?
"Nothing matters anymore"?  Mueller was investigating what happened during the election, right?  The Russian interference issue?  Did I get that wrong?  (And yes, anything related like possible obstruction for firing someone related to that.).
Oh well.  Maybe the post is just out of frustration that Mueller apparently did not "get" Trump.

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Re: The Mueller Report is delivered to DoJ
« Reply #17 on: March 23, 2019, 08:10:34 AM »
Anyone with a shred of common sense knew the Trump/Russia collusion story was phony.   The entire premise didn't make sense.   Do you think the Russians preferred a Republican over Hillary and her reset button?  

That the Russians "interfered" with our election process in order to help Trump get elected has been factually established and is not a matter for informed debate.  

Do you have nothing to say about the stark difference between the way EVERYTHING in the Trump campaign was examined with a microscope versus the friendly handling of the Clinton e-mail investigation?  
 
The Clinton e-mail scandal was investigated - not sure why you'd call it "friendly."

I get it when someone says they prefer liberal policies vs conservative policies, and we can debate the merits of each.
 
Yes, you've always shown such respect and fairness to liberalism, and have always argued in such good faith.

I don't get it when someone is so partisan and blinded by hate that they are willing to destroy our democracy in order to remove a duly elected president based on falsehoods.
 
Personally, I agree with the Democrat majority and leadership that opposes impeachment.  If it were to happen, it wouldn't destroy our democracy, nor would it be based on falsehoods.  
 
But he is not a traitor and he has not committed treason...
 
Maybe not, but he is a criminal.   
  

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Re: The Mueller Report is delivered to DoJ
« Reply #18 on: March 23, 2019, 08:11:33 AM »

This is a long way from being over...

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Re: The Mueller Report is delivered to DoJ
« Reply #19 on: March 23, 2019, 08:39:14 AM »
From Britt McHenry Twitter:

Still stunned the most-hyped, biggest political story of the last 2 years that cost taxpayers roughly $30 million, resulted in a Friday news dump...during the first round of March Madness.... #Mueller

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« Reply #20 on: March 23, 2019, 08:46:15 AM »
This is a long way from being over...

The Mueller investigation is over.  Others are continuing.  The Brady Gun Control Bill is no longer in force.  So, it doesn't reflect steady progress in the direction of gun control.  It's at best one step forward and the exact same step back, arguably even a larger step back as it glorified "assault rifles" as forbidden fruit.

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« Reply #21 on: March 23, 2019, 10:22:22 AM »

Anyone with a shred of common sense knew the Trump/Russia collusion story was phony.   The entire premise didn't make sense.   Do you think the Russians preferred a Republican over Hillary and her reset button?  

That the Russians "interfered" with our election process in order to help Trump get elected has been factually established and is not a matter for informed debate.

Bullshit.  That is nothing more than an unsubstantiated, wild-eyed, leftwing accusation.  But you are correct that when there is no proof of a ridiculous assertion, informed debate isn't possible. 

Do you have nothing to say about the stark difference between the way EVERYTHING in the Trump campaign was examined with a microscope versus the friendly handling of the Clinton e-mail investigation?  
 
The Clinton e-mail scandal was investigated - not sure why you'd call it "friendly."

Come now fuzz.  Are you so bereft of intellectual honesty that you would call that an investigation?   It was a travesty.   


I get it when someone says they prefer liberal policies vs conservative policies, and we can debate the merits of each.
 
Yes, you've always shown such respect and fairness to liberalism, and have always argued in such good faith.
I argue policy issues in good faith.  I don't have a lot of patience with people that perpetuate lies or treat leftwing talking points as though they have been "factually established".


I don't get it when someone is so partisan and blinded by hate that they are willing to destroy our democracy in order to remove a duly elected president based on falsehoods.
 
Personally, I agree with the Democrat majority and leadership that opposes impeachment.  If it were to happen, it wouldn't destroy our democracy, nor would it be based on falsehoods.  
The upper echelon in the FBI, DOJ, and White House used government assets to spy on the opposing political campaign, then fabricated a story - paid for by the DNC and Clinton campaign - to overturn the results of the election.  It was nothing short of a coup attempt.

When it was believed that Hillary had the election in the bag, and the low-IQ types were worried that Trump and his merry band of white-supremacists would contest the election, we were admonished by the left to accept the results.   



But when the left lost a fair election, they did not accept the outcome. 
But he is not a traitor and he has not committed treason...
 
Maybe not, but he is a criminal.   

Oh?  Of what crime is he guilty?   

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Remember....
« Reply #22 on: March 23, 2019, 10:58:00 AM »
..when Fuzz would get off on calling everyone a "Birther"
Now Fuzz is looking for posters in denial...
I think he found him....



Just remember Fuzz.....The words to remember this week are .......NO COLLUSION!!

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Re: The Mueller Report is delivered to DoJ
« Reply #23 on: March 23, 2019, 11:03:14 AM »
As I understand it, having seen it stated several times, the Russian goal was to sow doubt in the outcome.  Their goal was not to influence the result, they like most here figured Clinton would win.  They wanted the outcome to be disputed so as to weaken her.

They succeeded, except it wasn't her.

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Re: The Mueller Report is delivered to DoJ
« Reply #24 on: March 23, 2019, 11:06:16 AM »
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/article/election-cybersecurity/

This was pre-election reportage.

Why Russia Wants the U.S. to Believe the Election Was Hacked
It wouldn't be easy for Russia to alter the results of the U.S. election, but merely raising doubts about it would give Russia a strategic victory.
Election-related hacking coincides ominously with presidential candidate Donald Trump’s unsubstantiated claims that “ the election is rigged ” and his threats to not accept the election’s results if he were to lose. Americans, he suggests, can’t trust the outcome because of its manipulation and inauthenticity.

https://www.pewtrusts.org/en/research-and-analysis/blogs/stateline/2018/08/09/russia-doesnt-need-to-change-votes-just-sow-confusion


The confusion in primary elections in Maryland and California illustrated that Russia wouldn’t need to change votes to disrupt America’s electoral process, said Maurice Turner, a senior technologist at the nonprofit Center for Democracy and Technology in Washington, D.C. Simply changing voter registration information or spreading disinformation about voting places and times could be catastrophic, he said.
“The attack that is most likely to succeed is one that causes confusion,” Turner said. “To cause confusion, there just needs to be a disruption in the normal process, and people’s fears can start to build.”


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Fuzz...Are You Serious?
« Reply #25 on: March 23, 2019, 11:16:38 AM »
 
"The Clinton e-mail scandal was investigated - not sure why you'd call it "friendly.""
Fuzz

Everyone with knowledge of Clinton's email server was granted immunity
and the decision to not prosecute Clinton was made before Clinton was even interviewed and when she was interviewed she wasn't even sworn in.
To add to that...Chryal Mills who was also a person of interest in the investigation was allowed to sit in on the Clinton interview and "give advice"
The Clinton investigation was a joke.

1) Huma Abedin....given immunity
2) Sheryl Mills...immunity
3) Heather Samuelson...immunity
4) Bryon Pagliano...immunity
5) Paul Combetton..immunity

all of the above had knowledge of Clinton's email server .
Now compare that to anyone associated with Trump.

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Re: The Mueller Report is delivered to DoJ
« Reply #26 on: March 23, 2019, 11:26:25 AM »
From Britt McHenry Twitter:

Still stunned the most-hyped, biggest political story of the last 2 years that cost taxpayers roughly $30 million, resulted in a Friday news dump...during the first round of March Madness.... #Mueller

It would almost lead folks to conclude that there is no "there" there and those involved at DOJ just want it to be done with as quietly as possible.

Another question would be how does the Democrat-Media Complex walk back more than two years of a perpetual misinformation campaign that Trump colluded with Russia?

Meanwhile the truly biggest story of the last two years - that the FISA process was abused by the previous administration leading to the politicization and weaponization of the intelligence community and federal law enforcement against a domestic political opponent during a presidential election - has been largely ignored by that same media.

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Re: The Mueller Report is delivered to DoJ
« Reply #27 on: March 23, 2019, 11:34:06 AM »
How Russia Wants to Undermine the U.S. Election - Time Magazine ...




Oct 3, 2016 - What's behind Russia's effort to influence the U.S. election... “At the least, this effort is intended to sow doubt about the security of our election.

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