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Topic: The decline and fall of San Francisco

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Brutus Buckeye

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Re: The decline and fall of San Francisco
« Reply #14 on: August 07, 2020, 12:28:36 PM »
It makes no sense. 

The west side of Columbus was full of lowlife homeless drug addicts. They were thieves, prostitutes, murderers... the worst kind of people that you could imagine. Yet even they had the decency not to crap all over the sidewalks. 
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Re: The decline and fall of San Francisco
« Reply #15 on: August 07, 2020, 12:45:52 PM »
Most homeless drug addicts live below the poverty threshold. Still curious how you connect the wealth gap/disparity to becoming a homeless drug addict.
Most homeless drug addicts live below the poverty threshold. Still curious how you connect the wealth gap/disparity to becoming a homeless drug addict.

If you don't see how homeless drug addicts who live below the poverty threshold are connected to wealth gap/disparity, then I'm afraid I can't help you.  

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Re: The decline and fall of San Francisco
« Reply #16 on: August 07, 2020, 12:48:23 PM »
From what I've read, most of the temporarily homeless are just that, out of a job, can't pay rent, live in their car, looking for work.  They often get back on their feet.

I see Bernie wants to tax profits made by billionaires during this crisis, profits on which they would pay income tax were they actual hard profit and not paper profit.

I don't think Bernie has a clue about taxation and economics.

Brutus Buckeye

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Re: The decline and fall of San Francisco
« Reply #17 on: August 07, 2020, 12:48:55 PM »
I bet that there is a sizable percentage of homeless drug addicts that were brought up in upper to middle class households. 

I went to a fairly affluent school, and several of those kids grew up to be drug addicts. 
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Re: The decline and fall of San Francisco
« Reply #18 on: August 07, 2020, 12:54:48 PM »
Drug addiction can hit us all, obviously, perhaps harder for wealthier types than poor folks.

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Re: The decline and fall of San Francisco
« Reply #19 on: August 07, 2020, 12:55:00 PM »
I bet that there is a sizable percentage of homeless drug addicts that were brought up in upper to middle class households.

I went to a fairly affluent school, and several of those kids grew up to be drug addicts.
Are any of them homeless?


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Re: The decline and fall of San Francisco
« Reply #20 on: August 07, 2020, 12:58:53 PM »
A roof, a bed and a Meth Lab...........(tax dollars at work)

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Re: The decline and fall of San Francisco
« Reply #21 on: August 07, 2020, 12:59:11 PM »
Fuzz perfectly exemplifies the way progressive liberals think.
That is..... " never take responibility for your own actions"
"It's not MY fault becuase I didn't get an education...it's not my fault becuase I didn't work hard to improve my life.
It's that other guy's fault who worked hard, who took pride in himself and made a productiv life for  himslef!!
In case you missed it...I have just discribed what makes a liberal and liberal.
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Brutus Buckeye

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Re: The decline and fall of San Francisco
« Reply #22 on: August 07, 2020, 01:01:14 PM »
Are any of them homeless?


Some of them have been homeless at various points, yes. 

The thing about drug addicts is that they tend to burn their bridges. 
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Re: The decline and fall of San Francisco
« Reply #23 on: August 07, 2020, 01:11:16 PM »
In Columbus the would occasionally find the carcass of a homeless drug addicted prostitute either dumped in a river or buried in a shallow grave. In most cases they would get a few quotes from the parents in the news coverage. More often than not it was some well to do suburbanite couple that hadn't heard from their daughter in years. 
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Re: The decline and fall of San Francisco
« Reply #24 on: August 07, 2020, 01:17:11 PM »
Fuzz perfectly exemplifies the way progressive liberals think.

Oh good - another opportunity to embarrass Roady.

That is..... " never take responibility for your own actions.  "It's not MY fault becuase I didn't get an education...it's not my fault becuase I didn't work hard to improve my life.  It's that other guy's fault who worked hard, who took pride in himself and made a productiv life for  hmslef!!

LOL - the daily message in this forum from conservatives is that it's the fault of liberal city government (not individuals).

In case you missed it...I have just discribed what makes a liberal and liberal.

You just described what makes a conservative a conservative - wrong-headed hypocrisy.  HK didn't start this thread to point out that the homeless drug addicts of San Francisco aren't taking responsibility for their own actions.  

If you were wise enough to see through the propagandist BS, you'd realize that this is about blaming not individuals, but "liberal" city governments (generally black Democrats).  

If you want to think of this as a liberal/conservative ideological divide, then think of it as conservatives blaming government (in this instance, local government even though it's a national problem), and liberals (or at least me) blaming corporate America (who conservatives think can do no wrong).  

Hope that doesn't leave you too red-faced.




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Re: The decline and fall of San Francisco
« Reply #25 on: August 07, 2020, 01:19:19 PM »
Newsflash, deep insight, urban areas tend to be "liberal", and rural areas tend not to be.

Big cities with Republican mayors have problems as well, the few that exist (SD and Miami?).

About the best I hope for is a mayor who is not seriously corrupt, as I think our last mayor here was.


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Re: The decline and fall of San Francisco
« Reply #26 on: August 07, 2020, 01:19:37 PM »
In Columbus the would occasionally find the carcass of a homeless drug addicted prostitute either dumped in a river or buried in a shallow grave. In most cases they would get a few quotes from the parents in the news coverage. More often than not it was some well to do suburbanite couple that hadn't heard from their daughter in years.
You think that happens equally across the socio-economic divide?  Or do you think the poorer one's family, the more likely it is to produce a homeless drug addict?  

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Re: The decline and fall of San Francisco
« Reply #27 on: August 07, 2020, 01:20:55 PM »

Big cities with Republican mayors have problems as well, the few that exist (SD and Miami?).
Don't hold your breath waiting for HK to highlight any problems from either of those.  

 

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