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Topic: The decline and fall of San Francisco

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Re: The decline and fall of San Francisco
« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2020, 08:44:52 AM »
Great video..well worth watching.

Vote Progressive and these intended and unintended consequences are the ONLY outcome.

"If money would solve it, it would have already been solved"......

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Re: The decline and fall of San Francisco
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2020, 08:50:12 AM »
Big fan of City Journal in general.

https://www.city-journal.org/



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Re: The decline and fall of San Francisco
« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2020, 10:55:24 AM »
Good little documentary, thanks for sharing.  

I like the line "... everyone is conservative about the matters they know best or which affect them most directly."  Progressives rarely get it.  Their disease is that they are willing to subject others to the consequences of their actions or inactions.  That's the reason they should never be allowed to govern.   

I've spent a fair amount of time in San Francisco over the past few decades - for business as well as pleasure.  I used to love the city, but my last trip there will be my last.   

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Re: The decline and fall of San Francisco
« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2020, 02:17:38 PM »
Unintended consequences. More Gov almost never makes things better. 

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

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Re: The decline and fall of San Francisco
« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2020, 02:58:23 AM »
Who would voluntarily live in a city like this if you have options?
I know exactly where this place is. Wow.

IT’S COME TO THIS: San Francisco restaurant turns to dome dining amid growing homelessness on streets.

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For struggling restaurants, adding outdoor dining means facing a variety of elements on San Francisco streets — including the impact of the homelessness crisis that’s only worsened during the pandemic. In the case of one fine dining restaurant, it means enclosing diners in transparent geodesic domes on the plaza in front of its doors.

On Wednesday, Hashiri, a Michelin-starred Japanese restaurant, began seating diners inside these domes — structures covered in plastic that are sometimes employed by rooftop bars during winter in New York or Chicago known as garden igloos — for a $200-per-person kaiseki and omakase sushi dinner.

Hashiri attempted to seat diners outside once before during the pandemic, but manager Kenichiro Matsuura said the setting didn’t make it feasible. Hashiri is located in Mint Plaza, an area near Fifth and Mission streets where homeless people often congregate.








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Re: The decline and fall of San Francisco
« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2020, 05:06:56 AM »
There is a restaurant near me that has those domes in their garden in winter, but not because of any homeless.  It's pretty neat really, but perhaps not in this specific case.

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« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2020, 09:55:19 AM »
I bet you especially loved the woman towards the end of the video confidently proclaiming that, "it's not money, it's policy - if money could have solved this problem then we would have solved it a long time ago."  

What a joke.  I'm sure you're eager to believe that, but it's absolutely absurd (as if homeless people would be better off with homes, and readier access to quality drug rehabilitation).  That's what this kind of propaganda is really all about - misapplying the blame.

Conservatives want to blame "liberal policy," and there are certainly flaws there.  But the basic primary problem is wealth inequality, and that's not a function of city government policy, it's a national problem caused by corporate America.  

But by all means, keep blaming those black city mayors.  Because, after all, they're Democrats, right?  

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Re: The decline and fall of San Francisco
« Reply #8 on: August 07, 2020, 10:07:27 AM »
Man squeezing out a deuce in Safeway, aisle 10 LINK. If your city has:

1) record setting 31,000+ cases of poop reported in 2019, beating 28,300 cases in 2018,

2) a "poop map" to track residents' reports of fecal matter,

3) govt paid poop patrols to remove and clean human/animal fecal matter

Then your city is literally a s-hole.





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Re: Nice try...
« Reply #9 on: August 07, 2020, 10:17:52 AM »
I bet you especially loved the woman towards the end of the video confidently proclaiming that, "it's not money, it's policy - if money could have solved this problem then we would have solved it a long time ago." 

What a joke.  I'm sure you're eager to believe that, but it's absolutely absurd (as if homeless people would be better off with homes, and readier access to quality drug rehabilitation).  That's what this kind of propaganda is really all about - misapplying the blame.

Conservatives want to blame "liberal policy," and there are certainly flaws there.  But the basic primary problem is wealth inequality, and that's not a function of city government policy, it's a national problem caused by corporate America. 

But by all means, keep blaming those black city mayors.  Because, after all, they're Democrats, right? 
Wealth inequality causes individuals to consume drugs and become drug addicts? Interesting theory. Can you explain further? 

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Re: The decline and fall of San Francisco
« Reply #10 on: August 07, 2020, 10:21:47 AM »
“The coldest winter I ever spent was a summer in San Francisco”

Mark Twain

If everyone is thinking alike then somebody isn't thinking.

George S. Patton

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Re: The decline and fall of San Francisco
« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2020, 10:28:11 AM »
Wealth inequality causes individuals to consume drugs and become drug addicts? Interesting theory. Can you explain further?
How each person ended up becoming a homeless drug addict is different, but suffice it to say that most aren't coming from lives of financial prosperity.  

Note:  I should have said wealth "disparity" not "inequality."  

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Re: The decline and fall of San Francisco
« Reply #12 on: August 07, 2020, 11:10:04 AM »
How each person ended up becoming a homeless drug addict is different, but suffice it to say that most aren't coming from lives of financial prosperity. 

Note:  I should have said wealth "disparity" not "inequality." 
Most homeless drug addicts live below the poverty threshold. Still curious how you connect the wealth gap/disparity to becoming a homeless drug addict.

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Re: The decline and fall of San Francisco
« Reply #13 on: August 07, 2020, 11:28:28 AM »
A lot of the homeless I see around here are mentally out of it.  They don't even panhandle, they aren't aware you are anywhere around.

The panhandlers typically are young and appear to be in decent shape overall.  There aren't many of them thankfully.  If they ask me for a sandwich, I tell them I'll be back with on in 20 minutes.

Usually they thank me and then ask for money as well.  I tell them I don't carry cash.


 

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