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ATexasVol

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Social Media Censorship
« on: November 08, 2019, 10:00:52 AM »
This was in my Facebook feed this morning.  I've belonged to this group for a few years, and always found it to be closely moderated, with rules strictly enforced.  The only reason I can see that Facebook would threaten to take it down is they disagree with conservative thought.  

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Re: Social Media Censorship
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2019, 10:04:44 AM »
Facebook is toxic.
Never get on the site.


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Re: Social Media Censorship
« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2019, 10:39:46 AM »
I see similar messages frequently, usually that FB has threatened to remove some site.

I've never seen anything confirmed, and suspect it is an attention getting device posted by someone based on nothing. 

HEY LOOK AT ME!!  FB IS REMOVING MY SITE!!!!

And, they really aren't.

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Re: Social Media Censorship
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2019, 10:42:23 AM »
I see similar messages frequently, usually that FB has threatened to remove some site.

I've never seen anything confirmed, and suspect it is an attention getting device posted by someone based on nothing.

HEY LOOK AT ME!!  FB IS REMOVING MY SITE!!!!

And, they really aren't.

So you don't think social media censorship is a thing?   

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Re: Social Media Censorship
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2019, 10:55:05 AM »
I'm sure it happens with egregious examples on FB, but not with something like this.

It is however a way to get attention from the gullible, "FB is picking on me!!!"

I see the exact same message wording frequently.  They just plug in a different name.

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Re: Social Media Censorship
« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2019, 11:31:39 AM »
I'm sure it happens with egregious examples on FB, but not with something like this.

It is however a way to get attention from the gullible, "FB is picking on me!!!"

I see the exact same message wording frequently.  They just plug in a different name.

It's truly remarkable that you have the ability to determine, without knowing the moderator or being a member of this group, that he did not get a message from Facebook threatening to remove the site, and that he's simply seeking attention.   

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Re: Social Media Censorship
« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2019, 11:34:03 AM »
As I clearly stated, I see the same, or very similar, messages on FB ALL THE TIME.

It is my belief the vast majority are attention getting tactics, and FB simply does not have the people available to check into all these groups.

If you believe this one is credible, fine with me.  I rather suspect I am correct in my opinion.  There are all sorts of very conservative groups on FB.


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Re: Social Media Censorship
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2019, 12:18:36 PM »
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If you believe this one is credible, fine with me.  I rather suspect I am correct in my opinion. 



Tell us something we don't already know.

All know it all's think theirs is the correct opinion and would argue with a sign post.

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Re: Social Media Censorship
« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2019, 01:08:22 PM »
I checked on FB and found quite a few Sowell sites extant.  I don't see how it is logical to assume FB is censoring them all.  


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Re: Social Media Censorship
« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2019, 01:30:24 PM »
It is my belief the vast majority are attention getting tactics, and FB simply does not have the people available to check into all these groups.
Companies like FB and Google use artificial intelligence to monitor content.  I have no opinion of FB's censorship threat, but Texie has some significant blind-spots when it comes to what constitutes "hate speech," so he's not going to be a credible judge of what, if any, action FB should take.  

To this day, Drew denies that he got busted using inflammatory language in a post directed at me.  Despite the direct warning he posted from Google that perfectly described his post, his conspiratorial fantasies caused him to point the finger at two innocent contributors to this forum.  Sad.  

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Re: Social Media Censorship
« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2019, 01:34:02 PM »
There are at least two competing theories:

1.  FB spends a lot of effort finding conservative groups and penalizes them for political reasons (while leaving plenty of others intact), or

2.  Some group heads find it useful to call attention to themselves claiming discrimination by FB.

A third possibility is the deleted posts really were objectionable on whatever grounds and deleted because of that.

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Re: Social Media Censorship
« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2019, 01:48:21 PM »
There are at least two competing theories:

1.  FB spends a lot of effort finding conservative groups and penalizes them for political reasons (while leaving plenty of others intact), or

2.  Some group heads find it useful to call attention to themselves claiming discrimination by FB.

A third possibility is the deleted posts really were objectionable on whatever grounds and deleted because of that.

You believe whatever you want Cincy.  It's apparent you are an expert in this area.   But the fact remains that four posts were removed  by Facebook, all of which were approved by the moderators.   They don't allow inflammatory content on the TSF page, so I seriously doubt they were offensive.   I doubt Facebook actively seeks out conservative sites to throttle, but all it takes is some leftwing troll to report a post as offensive, then it's up to someone at FB to review and pass judgment.  If the reviewer doesn't agree with the politics, what's to stop them from censoring the posts?   



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Re: Social Media Censorship
« Reply #12 on: November 08, 2019, 01:52:46 PM »
I believe I am entitled to my opinion, which I've stated, along with reasons why.

It's sort of hard to rationalize why FB would allow so many Sowell groups to remain extant if they really want that stuff gone.

I view this as paranoia by conservatives, everyone is against them.  

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Re: Social Media Censorship
« Reply #13 on: November 08, 2019, 02:03:49 PM »
Companies like FB and Google use artificial intelligence to monitor content.  I have no opinion of FB's censorship threat, but Texie has some significant blind-spots when it comes to what constitutes "hate speech," so he's not going to be a credible judge of what, if any, action FB should take. 

To this day, Drew denies that he got busted using inflammatory language in a post directed at me.  Despite the direct warning he posted from Google that perfectly described his post, his conspiratorial fantasies caused him to point the finger at two innocent contributors to this forum.  Sad. 

I have blind spots when it comes to what constitutes hate speech?   I don't think so.  But then again, "hate speech" is a constantly-moving construct of the left.  Stating that there are two genders is considered hate speech these days.  I'll stick to facts thank you, and leave the goose-stepping and cow-towing to you.   


 

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