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highVOLtage

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Re: Senate Trial
« Reply #84 on: January 31, 2020, 07:37:40 AM »
The president is a crook


Perhaps instead of repeating that line ad nauseam the House Democrats should have actually proven it. They failed.



This was a fitting end to their clown show..




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Re: Senate Trial
« Reply #85 on: January 31, 2020, 08:49:54 AM »

Perhaps instead of repeating that line ad nauseam the House Democrats should have actually proven it. They failed.



This was a fitting end to their clown show..




https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1223105432954105857


Certainly, given Lamar Alexander's statement that they did prove it, I think they did just fine.  The Republicans most honest answer was to admit that Trump did what he was accused of and that they aren't going to remove him over it.  That's the most honest answer, though it puts Alexander in a position to excuse Trump for constantly lying to everyone about it.  But hey, at least he conceded reality on one front.  

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Re: Senate Trial
« Reply #86 on: January 31, 2020, 09:00:00 AM »
The president is a crook, and Republicans, faced with a shrinking yet stubborn base, have to beg borrow and steal to remain in power.  Which is why they beg, borrow and steal.  Life does go on.
Ahh Mommie let you out of the basement and on the computer

Funny he is the first crook in the Office who has lost money in a long time if ever instead of making money hand over fist

Maybe someday you will realize why he won and the chosen one lost.

 
President Harry S. Truman said: “The fundamental basis of this nation’s laws was given to Moses on the Mount.  The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings…  If we don't have the proper fundamental moral background, we will finally wind up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the state.”

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Alternative History?
« Reply #87 on: January 31, 2020, 09:43:13 AM »
Actually Trump's base has been remarkably steady and has grown in most midwestern toss up states.
Thanks to fake news and  naive ideologues making the left look like spoiled brats , Trump's chances for reelection have greatly increased.
Well done...couldn't have done it without you !!!:08:

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Re: Senate Trial
« Reply #88 on: January 31, 2020, 10:08:45 AM »
Elizabeth Warren is an idiot.   


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Re: Senate Trial
« Reply #89 on: January 31, 2020, 11:01:40 AM »
Certainly, given Lamar Alexander's statement that they did prove it, I think they did just fine.  The Republicans most honest answer was to admit that Trump did what he was accused of and that they aren't going to remove him over it.  That's the most honest answer, though it puts Alexander in a position to excuse Trump for constantly lying to everyone about it.  But hey, at least he conceded reality on one front. 

Per Alexander's statement, the House Democrats did not prove a crime nor an impeachable offense. POTUS did do something that Alexander disagrees with, which undoubtedly could be said for every other President as well.

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Re: Senate Trial
« Reply #90 on: January 31, 2020, 11:10:52 AM »
Elizabeth Warren is an idiot. 

Warren: Large majorities of Americans have lost faith in government. So let's give the federal government more money and power by entrusting them with complete control over our healthcare!

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« Reply #91 on: January 31, 2020, 11:56:12 AM »
President Harry S. Truman said: “The fundamental basis of this nation’s laws was given to Moses on the Mount.  The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings…  If we don't have the proper fundamental moral background, we will finally wind up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the state.”

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Re: Senate Trial
« Reply #92 on: January 31, 2020, 12:27:20 PM »
Schiff of course has no idea who the WB might be .........

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Re: Senate Trial
« Reply #93 on: January 31, 2020, 12:55:32 PM »
Schiff of course has no idea who the WB might be .........
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President Harry S. Truman said: “The fundamental basis of this nation’s laws was given to Moses on the Mount.  The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings…  If we don't have the proper fundamental moral background, we will finally wind up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the state.”

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« Reply #94 on: January 31, 2020, 12:58:51 PM »

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Re: Senate Trial
« Reply #95 on: January 31, 2020, 01:00:31 PM »
I love bridges of all sorts.

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Re: Senate Trial
« Reply #96 on: January 31, 2020, 02:04:58 PM »
Philbin is very good.

As for witnesses, there have been 18 of them for this impeachment. All called by House Democrats. The testimony of 17 of those witnesses have been introduced to the Senate as evidence. The House Democrats have withheld the testimony of the 18th, the ICIG.

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Dems Violated The First, Fourth, Fifth, And Sixth Amendments In
« Reply #97 on: January 31, 2020, 02:29:21 PM »
Impeachment Inquiry

House Democrats violated the Bill of Rights in pursuing their impeachment inquiry against President Donald Trump. Republicans have pointed out that Democrats’ articles of impeachment, especially the second article charging “obstruction of Congress,” punish the president for obeying the Constitution’s checks-and-balances.
Yet Democrats have also violated the basic liberties protected by the Bill of Rights, in the following four ways:

First Amendment: House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff (D-CA), which led the impeachment inquiry, released a 300-page report in which he printed phone logs purportedly belonging to Ranking Member Devin Nunes (R-CA), presidential lawyer Rudy Giuliani, and journalist John Solomon. Schiff has never made clear what authority granted him the power to snoop on a journalist (among others) — a violation of freedom of the press.

Fourth Amendment: Schiff’s snooping on phone logs violated the protection against “unreasonable searches and seizures.” As the Wall Street Journal‘s Kim Strassel has noted, “Federal law bars phone carriers from handing over records without an individual’s agreement.” There are exceptions for legitimate law enforcement investigations, but there is no exception for lawmakers, and Schiff’s inquiry had no law enforcement purpose; no crime was alleged.

Fifth Amendment: President Trump was denied the due process rights guaranteed to his predecessors in prior impeachment inquiries. Unlike Presidents Richard Nixon and Bill Clinton, for example, he was denied legal representation in the fact-finding stage of the inquiry. He was also told at the outset that any effort to invoke constitutional rights or privileges would itself be considered further evidence of an impeachable offense.

Sixth Amendment: Democrats violated the president’s right to counsel when they snooped on Giuliani’s phone records, even making a public record of his conversations with the White House, potentially violating attorney-client privilege. Moreover, by refusing to allow the so-called “whistleblower” to testify — and silencing questions about the “whistleblower” — Democrats denied Trump the right to confront his accuser before being impeached.

Democrats have argued that at least some of these rights only apply in a criminal trial, not an impeachment inquiry — and that if they were to apply to impeachment, it would only be in the trial phase, in the Senate, not in the House.

But impeachment — as Democrats have themselves argued — is itself a sanction that is meant, in their view, to deter misconduct. It is a penalty in and of itself, and the president is therefore entitled to all constitutional protections.
breitbart.com/politics/2019/12/17/pollak-house-democrats-violated-the-first-fourth-fifth-and-sixth-amendments-in-impeachment-inquiry/


President Harry S. Truman said: “The fundamental basis of this nation’s laws was given to Moses on the Mount.  The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings…  If we don't have the proper fundamental moral background, we will finally wind up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the state.”

 

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