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HK_Vol

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School opening
« on: July 31, 2020, 11:43:54 PM »
What a disaster. But good news for homeschooling and charter schools I suspect.
Parents are increasingly fed up.

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/390779/#respond


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My wife, who is apparently a glutton for punishment, listened to an entire Arlington County school board meeting last night. School is online only indefinitely. She reports there was great concern expressed about, and discussion of how to help: (1) the teachers, especially those who will have kids at home (the proposal was to give teachers with kids ten and younger child care, and no one else); (2) the staff, who should not be subject to any layoffs or hours reductions, even if, like extended-day staff, they have nothing to do; (3) poor kids who rely on school lunches; and (4) poor kids who have trouble accessing the internet.

Other than (4), there was essentially no discussion of educating students, which was a disaster online in the Spring, nor concern expressed for parents who can’t afford childcare, can’t afford tutors to help their kids, and who are otherwise experiencing a looming disaster with indefinite school closure.

The way at least my county school system has reacted to this crisis would have been considered outrageous ideological propaganda if a libertarian-oriented public choice scholar had predicted it. I’ve heard the same about other districts.

Christopher B •
Like that meme that showed up on FaceBook a week or so ago.

You're telling a mom who's a clerk at Kroger/Publix/Walmart/Target and been going to work for the last four months, breathing COVID air with hundreds of complete strangers, that she's going to have to continue to find somebody to watch her kids while they take on-line classes from a bunch of teachers who are too scared to go back to a classroom, and pay taxes to support the school buildings and administration on top of that, and you're claiming that Trump and Betsy Devos are trying to destroy public schools? The teacher's unions seem to be doing a good enough job already.

TTTCOTTH •
Have classes at Safeway, Costco, or Walmart. You can't get sick there.

Ann in L.A. •
The last thing these people want is to end up with huge numbers of people homeschooling or pulling their kids out of publics, but their short-sighted choices and stupidity are driving parents out. When the biggest white flight to ever hit our public schools finally becomes to big to ignore (whites disproportionately have the incomes and education to homeschool), it will be blamed on racism. In fact, it will be because schools stopped doing their $$$$$$ job!

l3randon • 
My mother in law has been a teacher for almost 40 years, has been a consistent democrat for about as long, and desperately wants to go back to in-person school because of what a joke the online teaching was last spring. She is appalled that approximately 2/3 of her fellow teachers seem to have no interest in the best outcome for the kids, to the point where she is actually planning to vote R on a straight ticket. I think a surprising number of teachers are going to quietly break from the left in November.

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Re: School opening
« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2020, 11:52:36 PM »

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Re: School opening
« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2020, 02:00:30 PM »
If the teachers who are making the unreasonable demands, those who refuse to return to the class room without valid health reasons, etc., continue to refuse to return to work,  they need replaced. 

President Harry S. Truman said: “The fundamental basis of this nation’s laws was given to Moses on the Mount.  The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings…  If we don't have the proper fundamental moral background, we will finally wind up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the state.”

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Re: School opening
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Re: School opening
« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2020, 01:07:17 AM »
https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/392281/#respond

A MAJOR CAVE TO TRUMP, AND A MAJOR BLOW TO THE TEACHERS’ UNION, WHICH HAS WILDLY OVERPLAYED ITS HAND: Andrew Cuomo says New York schools will open in the fall.

The Democrats’ internal polls on keeping schools closed must be awful, too.


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The teacher's unions have, indeed, wildly overplayed their hands. Y'all just FORCED all your customers to find alternatives for a while. Once they go to all the trouble of doing that, why in the world should they come back to you? Sure, some will, but a LOT won't. And if public education isn't getting all the students, why should they get all the money? Exactly. Look for political pressures for funding vouchers, and home schooling, to skyrocket.



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Re: School opening
« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2020, 01:16:04 AM »
Wow....but not unexpected. If you can't network and generate friendships, what's the use of paying $60,000 a year to watch lectures online?

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/392300/#respond

HIGHER EDUCATION BUBBLE UPDATE, CORONAVIRUS EDITION: 20% Of Harvard’s First-Year Class Has Deferred. “Using estimates from Harvard’s reported class of 2023 – which counted 1,650 matriculates – this means that roughly 20% of first-year students have deferred from the top-ranked university in the country. Harvard had also anticipated 40% of their undergraduate population choosing to live on campus; they now expect only 25% based on the number of students who have accepted the invitation to do so. If these are the numbers for Harvard, it’s going to be a wild roller-coaster ride for higher education this year.”

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Re: School opening
« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2020, 09:56:01 AM »
I see it as a win, win students who want to learn will those who don't the parents can no longer blame it on "whitey" but I'm sure they will find a way to call a computer racist.

Look at it like this online kids will only see the subject matter they don't have to hear all the left wing race baiting propaganda spread by teachers and be exposed to abuse at school because they are different.

Once we find out students can educate themselves online teachers are no longer needed.  We can out source student support like all other businesses and save billions in salary and retirement benefits by getting rid of the unneeded educators. The best part is there will be no more teachers union.

Then fast food places will at least have people who can use correct grammar when taking your order.

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Re: School opening
« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2020, 12:23:40 PM »


Then fast food places will at least have people who can use correct grammar when taking your order.

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Will they be able to do simple math?
President Harry S. Truman said: “The fundamental basis of this nation’s laws was given to Moses on the Mount.  The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings…  If we don't have the proper fundamental moral background, we will finally wind up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the state.”

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« Reply #8 on: August 08, 2020, 08:32:31 PM »
He's 180% correct.


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Re: School opening
« Reply #9 on: August 09, 2020, 01:04:14 AM »
https://fee.org/articles/new-rand-paul-plan-would-empower-struggling-families-amid-covid-19-school-closures/

New Rand Paul Plan Would Empower Struggling Families Amid COVID-19 School Closures

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The SCHOOL Act would alter the structure of federal education funding to allow the allotted taxpayer dollars to follow any given student regardless of whether their family chooses homeschool, private school, or public school. The money could still only be used for proper educational expenses, but this way, the funding would flow to whatever’s best for the student—which is supposed to be the point—not end up in the coffers of public schools by default.

“If the government schools decide not to meet in person in the fall, I think every parent should have the right to take their tax dollars to the school of their choice,” Paul wrote in an op-ed accompanying his bill’s rollout. “The choices would include homeschool, the local public school or another public school that has in-person classes, or a private or parochial school. It’s hard to imagine why anyone would oppose letting parents decide the school of their choice.”


Of course, Rand Paul’s bill only affects federal funds, and most education money is funded at the state and local level. So, the SCHOOLS Act alone can’t completely deliver us an education system that works for students—but it can certainly take us a large step in the right direction.

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Re: School opening
« Reply #13 on: August 09, 2020, 10:07:14 AM »
Will they be able to do simple math?


Not the old fashion way like you and I can, now the cash registers do it for them.  :o
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