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Re: NRA. Anybody here a member?
« Reply #14 on: March 06, 2020, 09:36:49 AM »

What is the point of owning SO MANY GUNS?!?!

Nevermind - in your defense you’re completely honest about it: Pure Paranoia!
What’s the point of a person collecting 25 or more antique cars? He/she can drive but one at a time. Holy crap, is the person paranoid that junk yards are going to crush them all?

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« Reply #15 on: March 06, 2020, 10:47:12 AM »
Card carrying member for over 30 years.
A decade of Victory over Penn State.

All in since 1969

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« Reply #16 on: March 06, 2020, 11:11:24 AM »
I am not, but I own 4 guns and hold a conceal-carry permit. I rarely carry though. Too much of a liability around here.
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« Reply #17 on: March 06, 2020, 11:28:29 AM »
If the gun ban folks would focus more on guns most often used in crime by individuals most likely to commit those crimes, I'd be interested.

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« Reply #18 on: March 06, 2020, 11:49:25 AM »
gun control and those behind it are liars.  they are pushing it for two reasons alone- to incite, and to distract.  they could give two shits about crime with guns.  they could care less about the safety of plebs. 

hey! does anyone realize there was another mass shooting? last week of Feb?  5 people whacked by a deranged former employee in Colorado?  was it buried in the paper under concerns of kung fu flu?  was it moved aside for coverage of the presidential primary?  or.... did the facts which were evident within hours didn't meet their criteria for extorting for all it was worth? 


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« Reply #19 on: March 06, 2020, 11:57:37 AM »
There is a mass-shooting in Chicago every weekend, and it gets worse when it's warm outside.


I'll pay attention when Chuck and Nancy disarm their security details.
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« Reply #20 on: March 06, 2020, 12:41:52 PM »
If the gun ban folks would focus more on guns most often used in crime by individuals most likely to commit those crimes, I'd be interested.
Right - what's a few extra lives saved at a mass shooting when there are so many more killed by acquaintances with handguns?  Let's only solve one problem at a time, starting with the biggest one first and then go down from there.  Makes sense!

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« Reply #21 on: March 06, 2020, 01:05:12 PM »
Right - what's a few extra lives saved at a mass shooting when there are so many more killed by acquaintances with handguns?  Let's only solve one problem at a time, starting with the biggest one first and then go down from there.  Makes sense!
This still applies

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I'm sure that's comforting to the victims' families.

So you can not grasp many more issues cause accidental death at a much higher rate.


It is nothing more than a agenda then.


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Nobody's talking about banning guns.  I apologize if the topic is over your head or too difficult for you to grasp, but we're talking about the merits of discontinuing the licensing requirement to legally carry guns. 

You really have not paid attention have you. Hint your handlers agenda is in the open. Are you really that out of touch


Likewise you ignore over 40,000 laws on the books and refuse to address which one are effective and which are not before discussing any more laws. All you are doing is wanting law abiding citizens to jump though more and more hoops with more and more restrictions and not addressing the real problems.


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The agenda is public safety. 


A few years ago, the right was clamoring that "all lives matter."  Apparently that's no longer the case. 


Then we should do away with gun free zones. and if all lives matter to you stop abortion that kills 3600 lives a day in the US alone
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President Harry S. Truman said: “The fundamental basis of this nation’s laws was given to Moses on the Mount.  The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings…  If we don't have the proper fundamental moral background, we will finally wind up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the state.”

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« Reply #22 on: March 06, 2020, 02:49:26 PM »
Right - what's a few extra lives saved at a mass shooting when there are so many more killed by acquaintances with handguns?  Let's only solve one problem at a time, starting with the biggest one first and then go down from there.  Makes sense!

Just about anyone can tell you that a ton of folks can be killed in a mass shooting without an AR-15 style weapon being involved.  They could all magically disappear tomorrow and we'd still have serious mass shootings that are just as bad.  Had that Vegas shooter used a bolt action deer rifle with a scope he might have killed more than he managed.  In a crowded arena, a couple revolvers and pump shotgun would do enormous damage.  If someone one weapon type were eliminated, others would suffice.

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« Reply #23 on: March 06, 2020, 03:18:21 PM »
And of course it has been pointed out many  many times how the "definitions" of assault rifles are idiotic and easily traversed by manufacturers.  The all call for a rifle with TWO features:

First, a detachable magazine, which is common with just about any semiautomatic rifle.

Second is a group including a bayonet mount, a barrel shroud, a pistol grip, and an adjustable stock.  A weapon lacking all of those things is 99.99999% as deadly.  The bayonet mount is comical.  So, magically ALL these weapons disappear and someone commits a mass shooting with a gun like this and then what?



Ban them as well?  Then what?  Someone walks into a nightclub with two revolvers and some speed loaders and a pump 12 gauge.  How many could he kill and wound before someone is able to take him down (in a gun free zone of course)?  A .357 HP round does tremendous damage to a body.  Obviously so does double aught.  The shotgun makes a very loud noise of course and scares the crap out of everyone so they seek cover somewhere as he shoots the 6 people near him and then brings out revolvers to shoot more people.  By that point, everyone near him would be dead or seriously wounded.  Everyone else would be cowering somewhere.  He could reload easily and start over.

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« Reply #24 on: March 06, 2020, 06:06:10 PM »
1) because I can - it's my right and is basically nobody's business. 
2) I happen to like guns. 
3) I will never ever be a victim. 



Well you’re in good company because this happened today, from a Colorado Congressional Rep in his own office no less:


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eLHNcDSQkYQ

I’ve come around to understanding that part of gun enthusiasm is that if you own a gun it’s incomparable to owning anything else - a car, flat screen, a horse; guns are the most important thing owned.


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« Reply #25 on: March 06, 2020, 06:14:58 PM »
Nah. The most important thing I own is my company. It gets most of my time. I rarely think about my guns.

Right now, the most important thing I own is my bottle of Tito's. It's time.
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« Reply #26 on: March 06, 2020, 06:17:19 PM »
And of course it has been pointed out many  many times how the "definitions" of assault rifles are idiotic and easily traversed by manufacturers.  The all call for a rifle with TWO features:

First, a detachable magazine, which is common with just about any semiautomatic rifle.

Second is a group including a bayonet mount, a barrel shroud, a pistol grip, and an adjustable stock.  A weapon lacking all of those things is 99.99999% as deadly.  The bayonet mount is comical.  So, magically ALL these weapons disappear and someone commits a mass shooting with a gun like this and then what?



Ban them as well?  Then what?  Someone walks into a nightclub with two revolvers and some speed loaders and a pump 12 gauge.  How many could he kill and wound before someone is able to take him down (in a gun free zone of course)?  A .357 HP round does tremendous damage to a body.  Obviously so does double aught.  The shotgun makes a very loud noise of course and scares the crap out of everyone so they seek cover somewhere as he shoots the 6 people near him and then brings out revolvers to shoot more people.  By that point, everyone near him would be dead or seriously wounded.  Everyone else would be cowering somewhere.  He could reload easily and start over.
A genuine assault weapon, as opposed to a legal definition, is a hand-held, selective fire weapon, which means it's capable of firing in either an automatic or a semiautomatic mode depending on the position of a selector switch. These kinds of weapons are heavily regulated by the National Firearms Act of 1934 and are further regulated in some states. (See machine guns.)
However, current "assault weapon" legislation defines certain semi-automatic weapons as "assault weapons." A semi-automatic weapon is one that fires a round with each pull of the trigger, versus an automatic weapon which continues to shoot until the trigger is released or the ammunition supply is exhausted. These kinds of "assault weapons" are sometimes referred to as military-style semi-automatic weapons.
An example of assault weapon legislation is the Federal 1994 Crime Bill. The bill in part outlaws new civilian manufacture of certain semi-automatic assault weapons. It also prohibits new civilian manufacture of "large capacity ammunition feeding devices" declared certain weapons as assault weapons, and states a semi-automatic rifle is an assault weapon if it can accept a detachable magazine and has two or more of the following:
  • A folding or telescoping stock
  • A pistol grip
  • A bayonet mount
  • A flash suppressor, or threads to attach one
  • A grenade launcher.
(For the Crime Bill's definition of assault shotguns and pistols, a list of assault weapons, and further legal issues see Crime Bill FAQ.)
[The 1994 Crime Bill expired on September 13, 2004. See Semiautomatic Assault Weapon (SAW) Ban QUESTIONS & ANSWERS
Semiautomatic Assault Weapon (SAW) Ban QUESTIONS & ANSWERS from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.]


President Harry S. Truman said: “The fundamental basis of this nation’s laws was given to Moses on the Mount.  The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings…  If we don't have the proper fundamental moral background, we will finally wind up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the state.”

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« Reply #27 on: March 06, 2020, 06:21:11 PM »
Nah. The most important thing I own is my company. It gets most of my time. I rarely think about my guns.

Right now, the most important thing I own is my bottle of Tito's. It's time.
The only time I think about my guns is when it bounces weird in my pocket and has to be adjusted from time to time like other things in that general area do from time to tim .  True story. Funny but true.

 

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