Area51 Board (non-moderated) at College Football Fan Site, CFB51!!!

Need to outlaw knives as well.....

It's an ammendment.

It's literally right there.  An AMENDMENT.  Meaning it is not written in stone. It can be amended.

in your scenario, which is heavily leaned toward an answer you seek, doesn't matter one bit.   it's a RIGHT recognized by the CONSTITUTION.  It isn't going anywhere.

LOL - I knew you cop out with a diversion (yeah, that's a personal attack - you deserve it)

You have the right to move freely in public areas, until you don't.  Regular restraining orders relinquish your right to go anywhere you want.  You have the constitutional right to vote, unless you're in jail.  So, you have the constitutional right to own firearms, unless a gun restraining order rescinds that right.  

Is this the best you can do?  


and your odds be damned, IF I ever face an aggressor is all that matters.

Is that your way of admitting that I'm right, and that while it might be overall better for society as a whole, you don't really care because all you care about is yourself and your minuscule odds of losing your gun privileges and then needing one for self defense? 

I guess you're going to have to be personally affected by a mass shooting by someone who was known to be a threat, but allowed to buy a gun anyway.  Then maybe the light will come on for you.   
 
I'm not going to waste my time explaining to them or you about odds.  

Yup, that's because you can't.  

you're like a guy i once knew who smarted off to a stranger in a bar, and when the guy clocked him he stood there dumbfounded literally wondering out loud why the guy hit him... it isn't the way things were supposed to happen in his head... the odds were against it in his head... it was just SO unfair...

To make that analogy applicable, the guy I'm smarting off to is deaf, dumb and blind, so the odds of him clocking me are extremely remote, so I knew that by smarting off to him, I was able to save many other people from getting clocked.   

I'm not going to be a victim, Fuzz, because I accept responsibility for myself and family.  odds be damned.  likelihood not even measured.  

You're acting like I'm advocating for gun abolition.  How about arguing against what I'm actually advocating - gun restraining orders.  

Your gun fetish is rendering you irrational - odd that you'd accuse of being "emotional" earlier in this thread.  Your hypocrisy and logical inconsistency is becoming legendary.   

but..... just for fun.... if these things are SO unlikely in either case, why are you even arguing about who has or doesn't have a gun?  Why do you care if the odds are so unlikely?

Because so many people committing mass shootings, not to mention all the perpetrators of domestic violence, are known to have been dangers prior to them killing.  I don't think the odds are so remote that some of those killings can be prevented.  On the other hand, the possibility of someone having their gun privileges, or rights if you prefer, unfairly revoked and then needing their guns for self defense is highly remote.