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roadvol

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Re: Netherlands and Belgium are Euthanizing Mentally Ill Patients and
« Reply #28 on: August 14, 2019, 11:25:25 PM »
My family physician in Franklin Tn before I moved quit practicing at 52 because he was losing money due to slow Medicare payments and high malpractice insurance.
He was an excellent doctor with a huge practice.
The only reason I was able to keep a doctor was because a young doctor took over his practice under the agreement that he grandfather my previous doctor's patients.
I wouldn't exactly call Franklin,Tn or Madison Al (suburb of Huntsville) "rural areas"
If you haven't had a problem finding a doctor while on medicare then you're not on medicare.
If I wasn't on medicare but approaching medicare age then the first thing you should do is ask your primary care physician if he grandfathers medicare patients or immediately start shopping for one as the problem is only going to get worse.


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Re: Netherlands and Belgium are Euthanizing Mentally Ill Patients and
« Reply #29 on: August 15, 2019, 12:04:22 AM »
My family physician in Franklin Tn before I moved quit practicing at 52 because he was losing money due to slow Medicare payments and high malpractice insurance.
He was an excellent doctor with a huge practice.
So what is he doing now?  

The only reason I was able to keep a doctor was because a young doctor took over his practice under the agreement that he grandfather my previous doctor's patients.
I wouldn't exactly call Franklin,Tn or Madison Al (suburb of Huntsville) "rural areas"
If you haven't had a problem finding a doctor while on medicare then you're not on medicare.
If I wasn't on medicare but approaching medicare age then the first thing you should do is ask your primary care physician if he grandfathers medicare patients or immediately start shopping for one as the problem is only going to get worse.
I would think that if Medicare didn't exist, and you were on private insurance, the premiums would be prohibitively expensive.  I am not on Medicare, and haven't heard a lot of complaints from the people I know on it.   It may be because they all have supplemental insurance.  So if you are unsatisfied with Medicare, and our private insurance market is extremely expensive, what is your suggestion to address it?  

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Re: Netherlands and Belgium are Euthanizing Mentally Ill Patients and
« Reply #30 on: August 15, 2019, 06:25:55 AM »
Medicare is popular among those who have it.  I presume it more or less works, though it is expensive.

Medicaid is the option that doctors don't like as they don't  get paid for services rendered in that plan often as not, same with hospitals, who upcharge the rest of us to compensate.

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« Reply #31 on: August 15, 2019, 09:33:53 AM »
What is he doing?
His wife owned an ATM business and he said she made ( profited) about 4 times more than him.So he retired.....and is a well educated house husband. And plays a lot of golf.

Anyone who can afford it and is on medicare has supplemental insurance. Unless you want to be at the mercy of the emergency room. I really don't know of any private physicians who will take medicare patients that don't have supplemental insurance. Medicare claims do not cover cost of service so a medical practice would soon go out of business if it depended on Medicare payments.
The reason there will be a critical shortage of doctors if single payer is ever passed.
You would see young doctors coming out of med school owing hundreds of thousands of dollars not counting the cost of sitting up a private practice. You would soon see a glut of lawyers and other assorted professional graduates as it would not be profitable to become a medical doctor.

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Re: Netherlands and Belgium are Euthanizing Mentally Ill Patients and
« Reply #32 on: August 15, 2019, 10:36:06 AM »
https://www.medicare.gov/physiciancompare/#results&loc=ATLANTA%2C%20GA&lat=33.7489954&lng=-84.3879824&flow=interim&type=specialty&paging=1&keyword=General&previouspage=IS&dist=15&name=General%20practice&id=01&loctype=c

Around here a lot of practices accept Medicare.  Fewer like Medicaid of course, different program entirely.

Supplemental insurance for Medicare covers things like drug costs and dentist visits, it doesn't give you are larger network necessarily.

https://www.kff.org/medicare/issue-brief/primary-care-physicians-accepting-medicare-a-snapshot/


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Re: Netherlands and Belgium are Euthanizing Mentally Ill Patients and
« Reply #33 on: August 15, 2019, 01:37:10 PM »
Supplemental Medicare Medical Insurance has absolutely nothing to do with pharmacy or dental cost.
You pay for an entirely different Medicare Supplemental Pharmacy Insurance for pharmacy coverage .
Medicare does not pay any dental cost unless it's associated with an accident that requires surgery and never heard of a supplemental Medicare dental insurance.
Where did you get that information?

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« Reply #34 on: August 15, 2019, 01:50:30 PM »
...in your rush to prove me wrong you might not have noticed that your link is almost 5 years old.
The number of primary physicians who take Medicare patients with supplemental coverage is shrinking every year since the passage of Obamacare.
The number of primary physicians who take medicare patients without supplemental is almost zero.
If you don't believe me just pick up the phone and start calling primary care physicians and see how many calls you make before finding one.
If you do happen to find one it will more than likely be a clinic that uses nurse practitioners and you'll never see a real doctor unless he's writing a referral to another doctor....orto sign  a death certificate.

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Re: Netherlands and Belgium are Euthanizing Mentally Ill Patients and
« Reply #35 on: August 15, 2019, 02:13:02 PM »
I googled practices near me and there are a bunch who accept Medicare.  I had no problem finding them.

https://doctors.piedmont.org/search?filter=direct_book_capable%3AT&filter=insurance_plans%3AMedicare&primary_care=Primary%20Care%20Providers&sort=networks%2Crelevance%2Cavailability_density_best

I'm being bombarded daily with "information" for supplemental Medicare right now, parts are for drug coverage and dental, then there is foreign travel, skilled nursing care, blood, hospice care, the list goes on and one.  It's not about some kind of independent health insurance, it's supplemental coverages.

https://www.medicare.gov/supplements-other-insurance/whats-medicare-supplement-insurance-medigap

The wife has been seeing "real doctors" every two weeks here of late for a lingering malady she incurred.  She had zero issue finding one.  I took her to Urgent Care a month or so back and she's seeing doctors in the same hospital now, plus PT twice a week.


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Re: Netherlands and Belgium are Euthanizing Mentally Ill Patients and
« Reply #36 on: August 15, 2019, 02:54:24 PM »
I googled practices near me and there are a bunch who accept Medicare.  I had no problem finding them.

https://doctors.piedmont.org/search?filter=direct_book_capable%3AT&filter=insurance_plans%3AMedicare&primary_care=Primary%20Care%20Providers&sort=networks%2Crelevance%2Cavailability_density_best

I'm being bombarded daily with "information" for supplemental Medicare right now, parts are for drug coverage and dental, then there is foreign travel, skilled nursing care, blood, hospice care, the list goes on and one.  It's not about some kind of independent health insurance, it's supplemental coverages.

https://www.medicare.gov/supplements-other-insurance/whats-medicare-supplement-insurance-medigap

The wife has been seeing "real doctors" every two weeks here of late for a lingering malady she incurred.  She had zero issue finding one.  I took her to Urgent Care a month or so back and she's seeing doctors in the same hospital now, plus PT twice a week.
As Road said more and more are not accepting new Medicare patients. 

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Re: Netherlands and Belgium are Euthanizing Mentally Ill Patients and
« Reply #37 on: August 15, 2019, 03:40:48 PM »
Medicare Part D ( drug) plans are entirely different from Part A and B which is hospital and medical coverage...and you can buy supplemental pans for Part D.
They do not interchange.
There is no Medicare dental coverage that I know of but I'm sure private dental plans for medicare age buyers are available and are advertised that way for promotional purposes.
I'm sure there are tons of doctors who treat medicare patients ( with supplemental) but are normally specialist.
As I said......go to the yellow pages and start calling primary physicians and see how many calls you need to make before finding one.
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Re: Netherlands and Belgium are Euthanizing Mentally Ill Patients and
« Reply #38 on: August 15, 2019, 03:44:31 PM »
also....as you get closer to Medicare age you get bombarded with Medicare supplemental advertisement.
Supplemental insurance for Medicare is a huge growth industry with Medicare covering less and an aging population.For about a year my mailbox was stuffed full of advertisements for supplemental healthcare insurance.

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Re: Netherlands and Belgium are Euthanizing Mentally Ill Patients and
« Reply #39 on: August 15, 2019, 04:22:31 PM »
I had no trouble finding plenty.

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Re: Netherlands and Belgium are Euthanizing Mentally Ill Patients and
« Reply #40 on: August 15, 2019, 04:35:16 PM »
As mentioned, unless you enroll in a Medicare Advantage plan that includes routine dental coverage, you’ll typically have to pay the full cost for routine dental care. However, there are other ways to cover dental costs outside of what’s covered by Medicare, including dental insurance and dental discount cards. Please note that these types of dental coverage are not part of Medicare.

This is what I'm talking about.  I'm seeing plans that cover everything under the sun.  I never said they were part of basic Medicare.  And I see a ton of practitioners around me that accept new Medicare patients, as I have linked.

For me, my retiree health insurance plan apparently fills in the gaps anyway, the cost is going down for me on that payment.  

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Re: Netherlands and Belgium are Euthanizing Mentally Ill Patients and
« Reply #41 on: August 15, 2019, 05:16:50 PM »
Good for you:91:

 

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