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Re: Naked power grab by Dims
« Reply #42 on: April 15, 2021, 09:31:42 PM »
Democrats want younger blood and thinking on the court.........

........just like in the Presidency of Joe Biden.

FORWARD......to a one party system

 
Yep.  How about they set an example and term limit / age limit Congress first?


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Feinstein is the oldest congressional Democrat, at 87. And Democratic leadership is closer in age to Feinstein than it is to Schumer. Pelosi’s key lieutenants Steny Hoyer and Jim Clyburn are 81 and 80, respectively. Seventeen Senate Democrats are over the age of 70.

If a significant portion of the Democratic caucus is not fully mentally competent, that’s an indictment of the entire body. Increased media scrutiny, combined with social media and a resurgent young left, may make it harder for the gerontocracy to hold on to power in the future. But for the moment, nothing is changing. Democratic voters may be young, but the party’s leadership is ancient.












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« Reply #43 on: April 15, 2021, 10:02:02 PM »
Don't you want to point out that the Democrats pursuing this action are fully clothed, and that you fail to see any justification for the subject line? 
True, but Hank Johnson is apparently concerned that adding justices will cause Guam to tip over. 


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« Reply #44 on: April 15, 2021, 10:43:42 PM »
I hear what you’re saying, HK.  And you’re right.  They would’ve smeared Cruz with everything they have.  It’s what they do.

My point is that while they hate Cruz, they don’t fear him.

They both hate AND fear Trump.  That sets up a different dynamic.

And because of Trump, they both hate AND fear… us.  Those that oppose their mindless, Godless agenda.  What we’re seeing is the irrational actions promulgated by hysteria.  They seek to insure that Trump — and those that would support him — NEVER gain power again.  And they’ll stop at nothing.  And they’ve discovered how to do it — thanks to Covid and Floyd. 

I think it would’ve been hard to play the “racist” card against Cruz.  Oh, they would’ve done it — but to limited effect, I think.  Certainly not with the success it saw with Trump.

I think it’s plausible that you wouldn’t have seen the feckless, sycophantic, cowardly capitulation of corporate America that we’re seeing now.

I also think it’s plausible that the Chinese MIGHT not have felt compelled to unleash a weaponized virus, under -- and against -- a Cruz administration.

I think it’s POSSIBLE that we would be preparing to begin the fourth month of Cruz’s second term.  That while not particularly popular, he might have gained the support and trust of his Red state detractors.  And might even have swayed some purple-ish people to his side.  If there are any left.

And lastly, I think it’s all irrelevant speculation, at this point. 




While I agree that Trump was a catalyst to the situation we find ourselves in, I have to point out that it is not truly Trump that the left fears. 

Trump is only a man...a symptom.  He was elected as a response, a statement that we (the right) are out of options.  We cannot afford give another inch and still be the country we want to be.  The dream is DEAD.  Trump was our death throes. 

The left (rightly) identified this weakness and is full throttle into eradicating the principles that WE founded this country on.  They've got us on our heels and we're at the edge of the proverbial cliff. 

It doesn't appear that we will even try to stand our ground.  Most don't have the stomach for it.  JOIN OR DIE are the only options. 

JOIN or DIE gentlemen.  How do you want to die is the question.

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« Reply #45 on: April 16, 2021, 10:41:35 AM »
While I agree that Trump was a catalyst to the situation we find ourselves in, I have to point out that it is not truly Trump that the left fears. 

Trump is only a man...a symptom.  He was elected as a response, a statement that we (the right) are out of options.  We cannot afford give another inch and still be the country we want to be.  The dream is DEAD.  Trump was our death throes. 

The left (rightly) identified this weakness and is full throttle into eradicating the principles that WE founded this country on.  They've got us on our heels and we're at the edge of the proverbial cliff. 

It doesn't appear that we will even try to stand our ground.  Most don't have the stomach for it.  JOIN OR DIE are the only options. 

JOIN or DIE gentlemen.  How do you want to die is the question.
This reads like a dog-whistle call for White Nationalism.  


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« Reply #46 on: April 16, 2021, 10:59:05 AM »
This reads like a dog-whistle call for White Nationalism. 


I see things are back to normal.. Fuzz is playing the race card....same ole' same ole'

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« Reply #47 on: April 16, 2021, 11:01:00 AM »
"This reads like a dog-whistle call for White Nationalism."......Fuzz
................................................. ................................................

Another way to read it is that America is still a majority white country.

Black's make up 13% of our people but 90% of media coverage.

(and 90% may be too low)

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Re: Naked power grab by Dims
« Reply #48 on: April 16, 2021, 01:41:31 PM »
Yep.  How about they set an example and term limit / age limit Congress first?
They lack that authority, on their own. 

The Democrats in my view still have too many priorities.  They may well end up doing relatively little.
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« Reply #49 on: April 16, 2021, 03:31:46 PM »
While I agree that Trump was a catalyst to the situation we find ourselves in, I have to point out that it is not truly Trump that the left fears. 

Trump is only a man...a symptom.  He was elected as a response, a statement that we (the right) are out of options.  We cannot afford give another inch and still be the country we want to be.  The dream is DEAD.  Trump was our death throes. 

The left (rightly) identified this weakness and is full throttle into eradicating the principles that WE founded this country on.  They've got us on our heels and we're at the edge of the proverbial cliff. 

It doesn't appear that we will even try to stand our ground.  Most don't have the stomach for it.  JOIN OR DIE are the only options. 

JOIN or DIE gentlemen.  How do you want to die is the question.
It’s good to see you posting on here, Volitale.  I haven’t seen your name in a while — but I don’t follow many threads.  Just the ones that pique my interest. 

Thanks for your response.  I respect and value your opinion (there’s a bunch of folks on here I can’t say that about — wink). 

I understand where you’re coming from, my friend.  And I agree with you, to a large degree.  I don’t know if you noticed the sentence “And because of Trump, they both hate AND fear… us.  Those that oppose their mindless, Godless agenda.”

I want to respond to you by trying to express what I think is the Christian response to what’s going on.  I’m not saying I’m right.  Just expressing my conclusions.  If I’m wrong, someone will have to show me where I am.


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It doesn't appear that we will even try to stand our ground.  Most don't have the stomach for it.  JOIN OR DIE are the only options.  

JOIN or DIE gentlemen.  How do you want to die is the question.

I think you express a sentiment, and an impulse, that is likely to become widespread.  It is a noble one.  It played a big part in establishing the United States — praise her memory; and may she rest in peace.  “Live Free or Die.”  “Don’t Tread on Me.”

I have long feared the point at which one is required to choose a side.  When that happens, law and order are gone.  Peace is gone.  Security, comfort, happiness — gone.  

Peace is to be desired at nearly any price.  “Nearly…”.  As a Christian, I look back to the founding of the Church, which occurred under a brutal pagan tyrannical regime (Rome).   Yet Paul advised those early Christians to “be subject to the governing authorities.” (Romans 13).  Because government is ordained by God.  

— As a side note: we are to obey the governing authorities, unless that obedience requires us to disobey God.  And we are allowed to defend ourselves, and our property.  Private property is ordained by God — hence, “thou shalt not steal.” —  

We are still under “Rome”.  Even the USA, as great as it was, was only great because for a brief, shining moment (a little over 200 years or so), it was instituted and populated by a largely God-fearing people, under the systemic guidance of Judeo-Christian heritage.  The systems implemented under the Constitution really are a miracle.  But, as Adams warned, they are strictly for the governance of a Christian people.  And are wholly unsuited for any other kind.

Which makes our current situation obvious.  This nation, which still bears the name “America”, though that’s not what it is — is now “the other kind”.  Our Constitution is inadequate to govern the Godless, pagan, ignorant Whateverist nation we are now.  It is in the process of being repealed.  It is irrelevant in the face of the sort of absolute power technology has made possible.

That ol’ commie folk singer Pete Seeger actually had a good line in one of his songs:

They asked would I fight for my country?
I told the FBI “yea.”
“I may point a gun for my country —
but I won’t guarantee you which way.”

Here’s the deal.

If there is an armed uprising in this country — and I think that is a definite possibility — 

it will be playing directly into the enemy’s hands.

And it will not succeed.

The ending to this story is pre-written.  There will be a unified, one-world government.  A soft tyranny, based on commercialism and consumerism, that will see a rise in economic equality.  A measured, low thermal, complacent and compliant and conformist population, controlled by an all-powerful autocratic technocracy, presided over by Satan himself.

Those that won’t conform will simply be eliminated.  And it won’t be that hard.  All they have to do is identify you.  From that point:  they can electronically seize your assets.  Your property.  Your phone.  Your identity.

It’s hard to be an effective resistance fighter if you have no money, no food, no transportation.  What happens when you run out of ammo?

All this can be done by a 20-nothing Pajama Boy, while he sips hot chocolate while working from home.

 “For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.” — Ephesians 6:12

What we are seeing is a Godless, Satanic takeover, leading up to the big finale. That is who our real enemy is.  Not our government, which has been taken over by China.  Not even China.  It is merely a tool of the real ruler of this world — a diabolic spiritual enemy of unimaginable power.  And the plan is to turn the entire world into the China template:  a super-advanced technocracy of complete control.  In which all will worship the ruler.  Orwell called him “Big Brother.”  The Bible calls him “The Beast”.

You know who will do well, in these times?  Those who have no beliefs.  No principles.  Who are willing to shrug their shoulders, and go along.  “Oh well… so it goes…”.

It is those of faith, values, principles, integrity — those who adhere to absolutes — that will suffer in this new world.  And new country.

You say “How do you want to die is the question”.  

I want to die in Christ.

But I’d prefer to be translated out of here, before that happens.  ( ^ ;

That’s my view.  I believe it comports with a Christian understanding.  If I am wrong, it will have to be shown to me.  By someone qualified to do so.

Which excludes fuzz, Cimply, or Sam…. 




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« Reply #50 on: April 16, 2021, 03:43:37 PM »
I think both political parties, given opportunity, would maximize their power and influence.  I don't really see something Dems do that Reps would not attempt in the same situation.  Had a Democratic Senate majority leader refused to hold hearings on some Democratic nominee to SCOTUS, we'd be hearing complaints from the other side about how unfair it is.  Both side wants SCOTUS to be on THEIR side.  Republicans wasted no time confirming the replacement for RBG.  In an election year.  And then claimed it was different.

I'm reading the book 1876 by Gore Vidal, it's a slog frankly, I'm don't find his writing style that fluid, but whatever, it was an important year in US history, and it's interesting how back then before civil service the President was expected to reward his followers and donors with high positions.  And of course civil service only moderated that to a degree.  Who do you think gets to be Ambassador to France?  Some career diplomat?

Holding the White House is an immense source of raw power if used for that purpose because of all the appointments he gets to make, with rubber stamps usually from the Senate.  I don't think many folks go into politics at the Federal level to "do good", it's for the prestige and power and influence.  Most end up voting with their party mindlessly.

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« Reply #51 on: April 16, 2021, 04:15:12 PM »
This reads like a dog-whistle call for White Nationalism. 


Nope.  Just nationalism.  A love for my country and what it is supposed to be.  All races are welcome.  

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« Reply #52 on: April 16, 2021, 04:35:56 PM »
It’s good to see you posting on here, Volitale.  I haven’t seen your name in a while — but I don’t follow many threads.  Just the ones that pique my interest.

Thanks for your response.  I respect and value your opinion (there’s a bunch of folks on here I can’t say that about — wink).

I understand where you’re coming from, my friend.  And I agree with you, to a large degree.  I don’t know if you noticed the sentence “And because of Trump, they both hate AND fear… us.  Those that oppose their mindless, Godless agenda.”

I want to respond to you by trying to express what I think is the Christian response to what’s going on.  I’m not saying I’m right.  Just expressing my conclusions.  If I’m wrong, someone will have to show me where I am.


I think you express a sentiment, and an impulse, that is likely to become widespread.  It is a noble one.  It played a big part in establishing the United States — praise her memory; and may she rest in peace.  “Live Free or Die.”  “Don’t Tread on Me.”

I have long feared the point at which one is required to choose a side.  When that happens, law and order are gone.  Peace is gone.  Security, comfort, happiness — gone. 

Peace is to be desired at nearly any price.  “Nearly…”.  As a Christian, I look back to the founding of the Church, which occurred under a brutal pagan tyrannical regime (Rome).  Yet Paul advised those early Christians to “be subject to the governing authorities.” (Romans 13).  Because government is ordained by God. 

— As a side note: we are to obey the governing authorities, unless that obedience requires us to disobey God.  And we are allowed to defend ourselves, and our property.  Private property is ordained by God — hence, “thou shalt not steal.” — 

We are still under “Rome”.  Even the USA, as great as it was, was only great because for a brief, shining moment (a little over 200 years or so), it was instituted and populated by a largely God-fearing people, under the systemic guidance of Judeo-Christian heritage.  The systems implemented under the Constitution really are a miracle.  But, as Adams warned, they are strictly for the governance of a Christian people.  And are wholly unsuited for any other kind.

Which makes our current situation obvious.  This nation, which still bears the name “America”, though that’s not what it is — is now “the other kind”.  Our Constitution is inadequate to govern the Godless, pagan, ignorant Whateverist nation we are now.  It is in the process of being repealed.  It is irrelevant in the face of the sort of absolute power technology has made possible.

That ol’ commie folk singer Pete Seeger actually had a good line in one of his songs:

They asked would I fight for my country?
I told the FBI “yea.”
“I may point a gun for my country —
but I won’t guarantee you which way.”

Here’s the deal.

If there is an armed uprising in this country — and I think that is a definite possibility —

it will be playing directly into the enemy’s hands.

And it will not succeed.

The ending to this story is pre-written.  There will be a unified, one-world government.  A soft tyranny, based on commercialism and consumerism, that will see a rise in economic equality.  A measured, low thermal, complacent and compliant and conformist population, controlled by an all-powerful autocratic technocracy, presided over by Satan himself.

Those that won’t conform will simply be eliminated.  And it won’t be that hard.  All they have to do is identify you.  From that point:  they can electronically seize your assets.  Your property.  Your phone.  Your identity.

It’s hard to be an effective resistance fighter if you have no money, no food, no transportation.  What happens when you run out of ammo?

All this can be done by a 20-nothing Pajama Boy, while he sips hot chocolate while working from home.

“For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.” — Ephesians 6:12

What we are seeing is a Godless, Satanic takeover, leading up to the big finale. That is who our real enemy is.  Not our government, which has been taken over by China.  Not even China.  It is merely a tool of the real ruler of this world — a diabolic spiritual enemy of unimaginable power.  And the plan is to turn the entire world into the China template:  a super-advanced technocracy of complete control.  In which all will worship the ruler.  Orwell called him “Big Brother.”  The Bible calls him “The Beast”.

You know who will do well, in these times?  Those who have no beliefs.  No principles.  Who are willing to shrug their shoulders, and go along.  “Oh well… so it goes…”.

It is those of faith, values, principles, integrity — those who adhere to absolutes — that will suffer in this new world.  And new country.

You say “How do you want to die is the question”. 

I want to die in Christ.

But I’d prefer to be translated out of here, before that happens.  ( ^ ;

That’s my view.  I believe it comports with a Christian understanding.  If I am wrong, it will have to be shown to me.  By someone qualified to do so.

Which excludes fuzz, Cimply, or Sam….




I appreciate your response VB.  I'm not on here that often these days.  Certain poster(s) make this forum unbearable at times. 

I do not desire violence.  I rather loathe the thought of it.  It is likely that we are near that precipice. 

All options involving peaceful resolution are quickly being exhausted and/or eradicated. 

Statements such as this are troubling.
"You know who will do well, in these times?  Those who have no beliefs.  No principles.  Who are willing to shrug their shoulders, and go along.  “Oh well… so it goes…”."
Is one not one of these people if they merely standby and hope to expire rather than fight back?  in order to be a good Christian?

Values don't mean anything if the one bearing them has no teeth. 

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« Reply #53 on: April 16, 2021, 04:48:04 PM »
How would actual conflict inside the country start?  I don't mean riots, bad though they are, but actual outright civil war?

Who would you shoot first?

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« Reply #54 on: April 16, 2021, 04:50:05 PM »
How would actual conflict inside the country start?  I don't mean riots, bad though they are, but actual outright civil war?

Who would you shoot first?
Gross misinterpretation is you.




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« Reply #55 on: April 16, 2021, 04:55:12 PM »
How would actual conflict inside the country start?  I don't mean riots, bad though they are, but actual outright civil war?

Who would you shoot first?
It will be much like our original civil war.  States will begin to secede and join others.  The Government, as it stands, will not allow that to happen.  

There's a reason the original civil war is referred to as "the war of northern aggression" by some parties.  It's not because they are ignorant rambling hillbilly racists.  The south wanted to be left alone.  The north would not allow it.  Hence the above mentioned phrase.  

 

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