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Topic: ‘Merry Christmas’ and Other Offenses

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DunkingDan

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‘Merry Christmas’ and Other Offenses
« on: December 19, 2018, 06:10:52 PM »
It’s Christmas time but Christmas cheer isn’t abounding as it did when we were kids.
The lack of cheer is not due to the recession (which the mainstream media can’t quit talking about) but because of the myriad atheistic “Grinches” who have made it their life’s goal to steal Christmas.
The way in which Europeans have long referred to Christmas as “holiday” as always bothered me. I’ve understood it for what it is: an example of their cultural secularization. But when I see the same tendency here in the United States, a nation founded in large part by Puritans who sought to “build a shining city on a hill [to] glorify God,” I am not only bothered but surprised, for I never dreamed that citizens of “one nation under God” would allow Leftists and a bunch of two-bit fringe groups to intimidate them into trading the Christmas message for secular, Euro-talk.
Maybe we should have seen it coming. Atheists and other secularists in this country have been quite successful in using the court system to turn once valued rights and privileges into outright, legally banned offenses since the early 1960s. One of their first successes was the Supreme Court’s 1963 decision that school prayer was unconstitutional. From that point, the secularists were so aggressive that by the time 1980 rolled around the court had ruled that reading from the Bible over a school intercom was unconstitutional (Abington School District v. Schempp), that states could not ban the teaching of evolution (Epperson vs. Arkansas), and that the posting of the Ten Commandments in public schools was unconstitutional (Stone v.Graham).
In 2006, atheist Michael Newdow sought to use the courts to ban the printing of “In God We Trust” on our money and, in 2008, “Edwin Kagin, a Boone County lawyer and the national legal director of American Atheists,” filed suit against the state of Kentucky over a plaque at the state’s Homeland Security Office which acknowledged Kentuckian’s “dependence on Almighty God as being vital to the security of the Commonwealth.”
But all this notwithstanding, the utter lunacy of the lawsuits this Christmas has taken the fruitcake. Some lady in North Carolina is suing to ban the singing of Rudolph the Red-nosed Reindeer in her public school system because (she claims) “‘Rudolph’ and ‘Santa Claus’ are overtly Christian.” I don’t know about you, but I have often bypassed reading Paul’s letters to the Romans in order to flip further back in my Bible and read Kris Kringle’s letters to his elves.
Perhaps the most surreal aspects of these “atheists gone wild” activities took place this year in Green Bay, Wisconsin and Washington State. In Green Bay, the display of no less a Christmas distinctive than the nativity scene was opposed by the Freedom From Religion Foundation, which argued that the display of the nativity scene on public property constituted a violation of the separation of church and state. Of course they claimed a broad, grass-roots interest in their suit, which garnered the huge and widespread support of “14 Green Bay residents.”
You may have come across the Freedom From Religion Foundation via their continued opposition to prayer in schools and the current pledge of allegiance, both of which they see as examples of state-sponsored religion. Their opposition to prayer in school rests in part on their contention that “our founders wisely adopted a secular, godless constitution.” Have these folks ever read our Constitution? And their opposition to the current pledge of allegiance rests largely on the fact that “one nation under God” was not added until 1954.
I hate to be picky, but if antiquity’s the measure then someone needs to remind these kooks that the so-called separation of church and state was not found in the Constitution until 1947.
Fortunately, the lawsuit against the nativity scene in Green Bay was tossed out because Freedom From Religion Foundation had no case. According to Federal Judge William Griesbach, the group lacked the “standing to bring the claims, which he described as ‘so fleeting and slight that they do not warrant pursuing in federal court.’”
In Washington State, the same Freedom From Religion Foundation, applied and secured permission to post an atheist plaque next to the nativity scene at the state capital. The crux of the message on the plaque is: “There are no gods, no devils, no angels, no heaven or hell. There is only our natural world. Religion is but myth and superstition that hardens hearts and enslaves minds.”
What’s amazing about this is that many of the groups that file anti-Christmas lawsuits claim to be the innocent, offended parties. But if you have the time (or the stomach) to read around on Leftist websites like democraticunderground.com you’ll soon see who the truly offensive (and vicious) people are.
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President Harry S. Truman said: “The fundamental basis of this nation’s laws was given to Moses on the Mount.  The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings…  If we don't have the proper fundamental moral background, we will finally wind up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the state.”

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Re: ‘Merry Christmas’ and Other Offenses
« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2018, 06:20:09 PM »
Recession?  Did he mention a recession?  I know the markets have been a bit blue of late, but recession?

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Re: ‘Merry Christmas’ and Other Offenses
« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2018, 06:27:46 PM »
Whine cry bitch moan
Guess the smartest guy on the board does not realize not know this is an earlier article not can they move the relevant parts and apply them to today's world   
President Harry S. Truman said: “The fundamental basis of this nation’s laws was given to Moses on the Mount.  The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings…  If we don't have the proper fundamental moral background, we will finally wind up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the state.”

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Re: ‘Merry Christmas’ and Other Offenses
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2018, 06:37:37 PM »
I'm just curious why anyone would post so many "article" from 2008 or so, which no one reads anyway.

It's bizarre and counterintuitive behavior to me.

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« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2018, 06:44:24 PM »
 I want to tell people what the can post and what they can not, Sob, Whine, Bitch, Moan


President Harry S. Truman said: “The fundamental basis of this nation’s laws was given to Moses on the Mount.  The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings…  If we don't have the proper fundamental moral background, we will finally wind up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the state.”

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Re: ‘Merry Christmas’ and Other Offenses
« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2018, 06:46:26 PM »
If I wanted, I could eliminate all of these superfluous posts easily enough.

Of course, it would also be easy, one presumes, to explain why the are made in the first place.

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Re: ‘Merry Christmas’ and Other Offenses
« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2018, 06:50:47 PM »
I am important and have power over you, how dare you talk to me this way.

As I have told your bud many times '' I don't tolerate those who play games or those who are FI or those who are willfully ignorant very well such as yourself to which all three apply as a bare minimum.  


I have stated many times when you stop acting like a child and act like a mature adult and try to have a conversation without the games I may try to have a real dialog with you until then. And I expect you will try and mock this and tell more lies in your ongoing game.''

It applies to you as well


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President Harry S. Truman said: “The fundamental basis of this nation’s laws was given to Moses on the Mount.  The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings…  If we don't have the proper fundamental moral background, we will finally wind up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the state.”

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Re: ‘Merry Christmas’ and Other Offenses
« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2018, 06:52:15 PM »
I gather discussion of a topic is not desired by some here, perhaps because they can't.

They just post long winded burfle and we're supposed to just let it pass.

Marketing I guess.

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Re: ‘Merry Christmas’ and Other Offenses
« Reply #8 on: December 19, 2018, 06:53:26 PM »
I'm just curious why anyone would post so many "article" from 2008 or so, which no one reads anyway.

It's bizarre and counterintuitive behavior to me.
I presume it's because there aren't enough "War on Christians" or "War on Christmas" stories to NOT recycle them.

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Re: ‘Merry Christmas’ and Other Offenses
« Reply #9 on: December 19, 2018, 07:46:47 PM »
In my personal experience, folks start calling others names, as we see here, and being sarcastic and avoiding any rational discussion, because the latter is viewed as impossible.

The other tactics are to divert the discussion into unrelated areas and post things that are not true and easily shown to be false, as we saw in the discussion about energy sources.

The whole thing is very predictable of course, and simply signifies that the other poster is not able to "keep up", dislikes being called out, and choose to be uncivil as a response.

Incivility is the last refuge of the incompetent.

 

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