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Topic: Many liberals mistakenly believe 10,000 ‘unarmed blacks’ were killed

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harvestalvol

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This is what happens when you get your 'news' for Comedy Central, CNN or MSNBC. 

Many liberals mistakenly believe 10,000 ‘unarmed blacks’ were killed by police in a year
In 2019, the actual number was 12

https://www.lawofficer.com/fake-news-police/


With all of the race-based nonsense in mainstream news and social media, a new study indicates just how confused and clueless some people are about the facts and stats of law enforcement. And they’re not just off by a little—they’re off by a lot, thanks to the exaggerated claims and false narratives the news and social media seem to love to tell, despite facts to the contrary.

A peer-reviewed study by the Skeptic Research Center indicates that despite clear data about officer-involved shootings, the majority of respondents over-estimated how many blacks were actually shot by law enforcement. In conducting the study, respondents were asked their political affiliation. Accordingly, a strange correlation was observed: the more liberal the respondents were, the more they tended to believe that police shot more and more blacks.

Ridiculous misperceptions; or overestimating by 11,500%
For example, among the more liberal-minded respondents, 57 percent of those who reported being “liberal” or “very liberal” estimated about 1,000 unarmed black men were killed by police in 2019—even crazier, 34% believed over 10,000 or more unarmed blacks were killed by the police.

Yet even more confusing, it seems liberals aren’t even paying attention to their own liberal news media outlets. According to the Washington Post Police Shooting database, the actual number of “blacks” shot by police in 2019 was 12.

Yes, only 12. In other words, they’ve overestimated by more than 11,500%


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https://greenwald.substack.com/p/the-media-lied-repeatedly-about-officer/comments#comment-1774993

CNNisFakeNews wrote:

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At least the "cops are hunting down blacks" narrative is bs for sure.

I researched this in 2020. These are also sourced from WaPo - as leftists as they come. WaPo has logged all fatal police shootings since 2015 in this database:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2019/national/police-shootings-2019/

Despite their headline, the data tells you a different story. In 2019 there were a total of 999 killings. 858 shootings in which the race was noted. 405 killed were white, 249 were black. Blacks were significantly more likely to have a deadly weapon than a white suspect. Yet more white suspects were killed. There were ONLY 12 cases where the blacks were unarmed - 11 men and 1 women. 7 of these cases - the suspect attacked the cop with eyewitness or camera footage corroboration confirming it. Out of the rest - 1 was an apparent accident. 2 cases - the cop was charged. The others were ongoing investigation when I researched this last year.

One can figure out themselves if in a population of over 360 million, these numbers are anything close to "police are hunting down blacks" or not.

gymvol

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This is what happens when people are intellectually lazy letting others form their opinions by what they've read or heard without seeking the truth.
If everyone is thinking alike then somebody isn't thinking.

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ATexasVol

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But since we now know that math is racist, and a product of white supremacy, the actual numbers are irrelevant.  The narrative is all that matters; that's where the profit lies.   

MaximumSam

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That this database comes from the Washington Post and not the federal government is an absolute travesty. There is simply no legitimate reason that every killing by a government worker doesn't come with an easily accessible report as to what happened and why it was deemed justified or not. Police agencies have used politicians and friendly media to shield them from having to divulge such information unless the public demands it.

Further, we have, supposedly, a right to bear arms in this country. So the idea that a killing is justified because someone is armed makes no sense on its face. 

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Further, we have, supposedly, a right to bear arms in this country. So the idea that a killing is justified because someone is armed makes no sense on its face.

It's not the carrying a gun part that is the problem (otherwise the police would just shoot everyone with a carry permit), it's the non-compliance and confrontational part while carrying a gun that creates a justifiable threat.

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Further, we have, supposedly, a right to bear arms in this country. So the idea that a killing is justified because someone is armed makes no sense on its face.

You need to look no further than your party the democrats for creating that idea.  They are the ones who have spread the propaganda that everyone who carries a gun is dangerous and people should not be allowed to have them.

They pass all the gun controls laws so when a police officer encounters someone with a gun in those states he automatically pulls his because of the propaganda and lies spread by the democrats and media.
If everyone is thinking alike then somebody isn't thinking.

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There is simply no legitimate reason that every killing by a government worker doesn't come with an easily accessible report as to what happened and why it was deemed justified or not.

So you agree that the Capital Policeman who shot an unarmed woman should be identified and his reason for killing her part of the public record.

Good point...I agree

ATexasVol

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That this database comes from the Washington Post and not the federal government is an absolute travesty. There is simply no legitimate reason that every killing by a government worker doesn't come with an easily accessible report as to what happened and why it was deemed justified or not. Police agencies have used politicians and friendly media to shield them from having to divulge such information unless the public demands it.

Further, we have, supposedly, a right to bear arms in this country. So the idea that a killing is justified because someone is armed makes no sense on its face.

Let me make sure I understand your point Sam.   You take no issue with the fact that most people on the left are grossly misinformed about how many  unarmed blacks are killed by police.   That liberals believe that thousands of unarmed blacks are gunned down by police - when the actual number was 12 - is not the issue here.  BLM is on the street because they believe that they are fighting for their lives when they are actually not fighting for their lives.   

Furthermore, it doesn't bother you that a CNN anchor like Chris Cuomo is pushing the demonstrably false narrative that racist police are murdering blacks.   

None of that is a concern to you.   Your issue is that the government isn't publishing the study.   

Did I summarize that correctly?   

MaximumSam

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Let me make sure I understand your point Sam.  You take no issue with the fact that most people on the left are grossly misinformed about how many  unarmed blacks are killed by police.  That liberals believe that thousands of unarmed blacks are gunned down by police - when the actual number was 12 - is not the issue here.  BLM is on the street because they believe that they are fighting for their lives when they are actually not fighting for their lives. 

Furthermore, it doesn't bother you that a CNN anchor like Chris Cuomo is pushing the demonstrably false narrative that racist police are murdering blacks. 

None of that is a concern to you.  Your issue is that the government isn't publishing the study. 

Did I summarize that correctly? 
Well, my main issue here is that getting accurate information about the use of force by the police on the people is difficult. I firmly believe the federal government could have a very positive role in simply collecting and dispersing information, but such things are foiled by politics. So we resort to private enterprises to do this, and not everyone has a copy of The Washington Post report around to rely upon. Further, there is no particular reason to expect the Post to be the authority on this topic.

Also, I'm calling b.s. on your summary here. You would be the first to talk about how The Washington Post can't be trusted and shouldn't be relied upon. So how can you criticize anyone for, you know, not reading or not believing The Washington Post?

In any event, no, I don't normally care a lot about any of these things. Most people don't know the statistics of much of anything off the top of their head. The study that you are referencing even admits that we don't actually know how many unarmed black men that were killed by police and suggests it could be up to 100.  So, yes, I am more concerned with the lack of data about government killings than how many people know the stats off the top of their head.

MaximumSam

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So you agree that the Capital Policeman who shot an unarmed woman should be identified and his reason for killing her part of the public record.

Good point...I agree

Absolutely. If we are going to excuse 99 percent of killings, we should at least know who did the killing and why. That doesn't seem like a very big ask.

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The study that you are referencing even admits that we don't actually know how many unarmed black men that were killed by police and suggests it could be up to 100.  
I don't know about the credibility of that study, but I recall that around 200 blacks are killed by cops ever year.  Are half of them unarmed?  

It really doesn't matter if they're armed or not - if they're NON-COMPLIANT and either fighting with a cop (where they could grab their gun) or reaching in such-a-way that might produce a weapon, then the cop is obligated to take their own safety into account.

steve37777

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So you agree that the Capital Policeman who shot an unarmed woman should be identified and his reason for killing her part of the public record.

Good point...I agree

If the woman had been black and a democrat, half of Washington wound have been burnt down...But since she was white, throw her in the corner with the other trash and forget about her...She don't matter.

Hell with em all..... 

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That this database comes from the Washington Post and not the federal government is an absolute travesty. There is simply no legitimate reason that every killing by a government worker doesn't come with an easily accessible report as to what happened and why it was deemed justified or not. Police agencies have used politicians and friendly media to shield them from having to divulge such information unless the public demands it.

Further, we have, supposedly, a right to bear arms in this country. So the idea that a killing is justified because someone is armed makes no sense on its face.
What you meant to say was, “I wish Police Depts were forced to divulge case information when a black person is killed by an officer so that I can then chase the family around begging them to sue the police dept so that I can fatten my wallet with tax payer money from the lawsuits”.

 

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