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Topic: Manafort told to surrender to in Special Council investigation...

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Re: Manafort told to surrender to in Special Council investigation...
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2017, 08:44:16 AM »








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Re: Manafort told to surrender to in Special Council investigation...
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2017, 08:51:27 AM »
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rjarango • 
It was reported by sources close to the investigation but not authorized to speak on the record that Manafort tore the tags off his mattresses.

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Re: Manafort told to surrender to in Special Council investigation...
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2017, 08:52:49 AM »
Interesting thing about that "Sealed Indictment"

Apparently, someone in the FBI mistook it to mean to seal it in an envelope and mail it to CNN.......


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Re: Manafort told to surrender to in Special Council investigation...
« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2017, 08:59:05 AM »
Yep it looks like charges from before he was on the campaign staff. Looks like they're trying to get him to Spill the goods or lie on Trump for a reduced sentence or they'll go after him with all they got

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Re: Manafort told to surrender to in Special Council investigation...
« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2017, 09:07:50 AM »
.... all this is live demonstration on how the highest law enforcement agency in the land loses all objective integrity, and becomes the gestapo... 


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Re: Manafort told to surrender to in Special Council investigation...
« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2017, 09:20:02 AM »
“He will die in jail” 

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Re: Manafort told to surrender to in Special Council investigation...
« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2017, 10:27:47 AM »
“He will die in jail”

Hopscotch, you're back!

If you mean Manafort will die in jail, I doubt it.  

So what if he was involved with Democrat lobbyists like the Podesta Group, and Obama's own White House lawyer, in some shady deals with Ukraine.

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.thedailybeast.com/paul-manafort-teamed-up-with-obamas-lawyer-to-help-putin-ally

Manafort's time with the Trump campaign was very short-lived.

"The indictment is purely focused on alleged financial crimes and does not include any charges related to the broader question that formed the basis of Mueller's investigation – whether Donald Trump's presidential campaign colluded with Russia to swing the 2016 election in his favor.

It describes criminal allegations that predate the Trump campaign; Trump's name is not mentioned in the 31-page document."
« Last Edit: October 30, 2017, 10:30:45 AM by highVOLtage »

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Re: Manafort told to surrender to in Special Council investigation...
« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2017, 10:37:25 AM »
“He will die in jail”

The jackass brays.
Hee Aw, Hee Aw, Hee always sounds like one.  :72:
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More the Same from Poley, err, Ratvol, err Scratchvol
« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2017, 11:37:05 AM »
“He will die in jail” so saith <br /><br /> :85:
One aspect of the Manafort case which has largely gone unreported is whether or not the former Trump official’s constitutional rights were violated. Rachel Stockman, a Yale Law School educated journalist for LawNewz believes there is strong evidence suggesting Mueller’s team violated Manafort’s constitutional rights.
Stockman writes:
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In a surprise raid on July 26th, FBI agents busted into Manafort’s home in Alexandria, Virginia to collect documents and other materials related to the FBI probe into whether the Trump campaign colluded with the Russians. At the time, Manafort’s attorney raised concerns about how the raid was conducted. In order for the feds to obtain a warrant, a federal judge would have to determine that probable cause existed that a crime was committed.  As part of the warrant, investigators attached an affidavit which contained a list of items that FBI agents hoped to collect. That’s where the trouble appears to be in Manafort’s case
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As a legal website, we were immediately drawn to the revelation that evidence was collected that may not have been covered by the warrant. That’s a serious development, and one that Manafort’s attorneys will no doubt seize upon. But, is it necessarily illegal? Did the agents do anything wrong? It’s not clear. It certainly could raise some serious constitutional issues that could taint the investigation.
“If they (investigators) had any kind of heads up, and they went beyond the scope of the warrant, that could be a problem,” Former federal prosecutor Henry Hockeimer, told LawNewz.
“Generally if agents seize privileged materials, (Manafort) could argue the entire search was tainted, they went beyond the scope of the warrant, a defense attorney could make some hay out of this,” Hockeimer added.
Over the summer, the Washington Post reported the FBI raided former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort’s Alexandria home late last month. A New York Times report alleges the FBI seized “tax documents and foreign banking records.”
Washington Examiner reporter Byron York pointed out the FBI barged into Manaforts home with “guns drawn.”
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President Harry S. Truman said: “The fundamental basis of this nation’s laws was given to Moses on the Mount.  The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings…  If we don't have the proper fundamental moral background, we will finally wind up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the state.”

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Hmmmm
« Reply #10 on: October 30, 2017, 11:38:35 AM »
President Harry S. Truman said: “The fundamental basis of this nation’s laws was given to Moses on the Mount.  The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings…  If we don't have the proper fundamental moral background, we will finally wind up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the state.”

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Re: Manafort told to surrender to in Special Council investigation...
« Reply #11 on: October 30, 2017, 01:14:06 PM »
https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/279625/#respond

rjarango •
It was reported by sources close to the investigation but not authorized to speak on the record that Manafort tore the tags off his mattresses.
I don't think you need to worry about the possibility of spending years in prison for tearing the tags off your mattress.  These are very serious charges for Manafort and Gates.  If, as Trump contends, he and his campaign did nothing wrong, then the charges may never extend beyond Manafort.  This could just be the latest example of Trump's poor judgement in hiring decisions and nothing more.  However, given Trump's questionable ethics and meddling ways, I don't think he will be in the clear until they declare the investigation closed.

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Re: Manafort told to surrender to in Special Council investigation...
« Reply #12 on: October 30, 2017, 06:10:06 PM »
They are all wire transfer incidents well before Manafort started working for Trump.
We'll see if there was anything "wrong" with these bank accounts.
Sounds like a failure to pay his income taxes in full.

With a tax code of well over 70,000 pages, I'm guessing that most everyone on this page could probably be found in violation of something if the Federal Government searched hard enough.

“Show me the man and I’ll find you the crime.”
     - Lavrentiy Pavlovich Beria, head of Stalin’s secret police.

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Re: Manafort told to surrender to in Special Council investigation...
« Reply #13 on: October 30, 2017, 06:16:43 PM »


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The Paul Manafort indictment is much ado about nothing . . . except as a vehicle to squeeze Manafort, which is special counsel Robert Mueller’s objective — as we have been arguing for three months (see here, here, and here). Do not be fooled by the “Conspiracy against the United States” heading on Count One (page 23 of the indictment). This case has nothing to do with what Democrats and the media call “the attack on our democracy” (i.e., the Kremlin’s meddling in the 2016 election, supposedly in “collusion” with the Trump campaign). Essentially, Manafort and his associate, Richard W. Gates, are charged with (a) conspiring to conceal from the U.S. government about $75 million they made as unregistered foreign agents for Ukraine, years before the 2016 election (mainly, from 2006 through 2014), and (b) a money-laundering conspiracy. . . .

The so-called conspiracy against the United States mainly involves Manafort’s and Gates’s alleged failure to file Treasury Department forms required by the Bank Secrecy Act. Specifically, Americans who hold a stake in foreign bank accounts must file what’s known as an “FBAR” (foreign bank account report) in any year in which, at any point, the balance in the account exceeds $10,000. Federal law also requires disclosure of foreign accounts on annual income-tax returns. Manafort and Gates are said to have controlled foreign accounts through which their Ukrainian political-consulting income sluiced, and to have failed to file accurate FBARs and tax returns. In addition, they allegedly failed to register as foreign agents from 2008 through 2014 and made false statements when they belatedly registered.
In the money-laundering conspiracy, they are alleged to have moved money in and out of the United States with the intent to promote “specified unlawful activity.” That activity is said to have been their acting as unregistered foreign agents.

On first glance, Mueller’s case, at least in part, seems shaky and overcharged.

McCarthy’s conclusion: “From President Trump’s perspective, the indictment is a boon from which he can claim that the special counsel has no actionable collusion case. It appears to reaffirm former FBI director James Comey’s multiple assurances that Trump is not a suspect. And, to the extent it looks like an attempt to play prosecutorial hardball with Manafort, the president can continue to portray himself as the victim of a witch hunt.”

Much more at the link. Hard to see what this has to do with Russian interference in the election, but stay tuned I guess.
And if you missed it when I posted it this morning the indictment is here.

 

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