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Cincydawg

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If you had an hour to talk to someone about God ...
« on: August 04, 2020, 10:46:35 AM »
... what points would you make?

Imagine an individual who is 25 and has never been exposed to any religion (hypothetically of course) and has a completely open mind.  (Maybe it's an alien, whatever.)  They ask to learn about various religions, and give say 5 people an hour to expound on their religion and explain why they believe the person should adopt theirs, or at least become interested in learning more.

My own notions about Christian POV would be along these lines (I didn't give this huge thought so I'm sure someone could do much better);

God is the Creator of the universe, all power, omnipotent, and singular.
God loves you.
Humans have all sinned, which God views as a problem.
God gave his Son in sacrifice to atone for that sin, and if we believe in him, we can be saved and not die.
Once we are saved, we will still sin, but we should do our best to live a perfect life, and ask forgiveness, as we forgive others.
We should love our neighbor and love God with all our heart.
The alternative is an eternity in Hell.


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Re: If you had an hour to talk to someone about God ...
« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2020, 10:52:41 AM »

I would try to convince the Alien to become a Westboro Baptist. 
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Re: If you had an hour to talk to someone about God ...
« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2020, 11:15:50 AM »
I would try to convince the Alien to become a Westboro Baptist.
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Re: If you had an hour to talk to someone about God ...
« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2020, 11:18:44 AM »
My generic answer is this, and what I would be most likely to respond to as a non-believer:

I'd give my personal testimony of redemption.

How the Lord came to me, how my life has benefitted, how I have transformed, and the joy my life now has and was once completely devoid of.

I'd probably recite all of the canned responses as well, but I'd use my personal story to drive the point home.

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Re: If you had an hour to talk to someone about God ...
« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2020, 11:21:23 AM »
That's a good approach I think, good one.  I had not thought of that.

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Re: If you had an hour to talk to someone about God ...
« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2020, 11:23:23 AM »
I would probably just play them an hour of the Passion of the Christ. 

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Re: If you had an hour to talk to someone about God ...
« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2020, 01:18:09 PM »
I'd put their asses to work picking up limbs and debris, locating and finding things the storm blew away... cleaning... moving all stuff from refrigerator 1 2 3 and 4 to refrigerator 5 and six which is on gunny power..... in this muggy heat... and tell em of they dont want to spend an eternity far worse than that they better read this here Book... 

Grrrr... 

But seriously... im taking a break to respond. 

I'd speak to them of Peace.  I'd speak to them of Compassion and Foregiveness... I'd talk of a Code that is a good code no matter what you choose to believe and even if you reject Christ.  I'd try my best to open them to the Spirit and stand back hoping they're receptive and not judge their direction.  I'd teach them best I know how to Pray, and I'd encourage them to do so with promise they will be met with the Greatest Thing they could hope for in this world or the next. 

I'd make a terrible missionary. 

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Re: If you had an hour to talk to someone about God ...
« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2020, 01:20:48 PM »
You might well make for a good missionary.

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Re: If you had an hour to talk to someone about God ...
« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2020, 12:25:33 AM »
My generic answer is this, and what I would be most likely to respond to as a non-believer:

I'd give my personal testimony of redemption.

How the Lord came to me, how my life has benefitted, how I have transformed, and the joy my life now has and was once completely devoid of.

I'd probably recite all of the canned responses as well, but I'd use my personal story to drive the point home.
jgvol, (trying to do that "tag" thing -- how's that work?) ummm… wins?

If it’s not personal, it’s all theoretical.

I think a good approach, to get to that point, would be to point to a building (assuming one is nearby).  And as “what do you think?  That building — was it designed and built by someone?  Or did it just happen?”

And they’d say, of course, that it was designed and built.

And then I’d encourage them to look at the world around them.  This planet, its delicately balanced  biosphere and ecosystem; the universe in which it is  located.

And then I’d ask them:  it is obvious it took intelligence, information, and design for that building to be there.  It couldn’t have just happened.

What about this fine-tuned space-time environment that we exist in?

Designed — or did it just happen?

(full disclosure — that analogy is not original with me.  Not sure where I heard it, though…)



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Re: If you had an hour to talk to someone about God ...
« Reply #10 on: August 05, 2020, 06:19:13 AM »
That is a common analogy, it even has a specific name of course, and for some it points to a Creator, but a nonspecific kinds of Creator.


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Re: If you had an hour to talk to someone about God ...
« Reply #11 on: August 05, 2020, 10:06:27 AM »

If he's 25 just build an app he can download to his smart phone that will tell him all about God and how he should become a Christian.

They live on their phones so if there's an app for it that's all you need to convince someone that young.
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Re: If you had an hour to talk to someone about God ...
« Reply #12 on: August 05, 2020, 01:06:43 PM »
My generic answer is this, and what I would be most likely to respond to as a non-believer:

I'd give my personal testimony of redemption.

How the Lord came to me, how my life has benefitted, how I have transformed, and the joy my life now has and was once completely devoid of.

I'd probably recite all of the canned responses as well, but I'd use my personal story to drive the point home.
I think everyone is different and no matter what way you tell someone about Christ/God/Holy Spirit you should look for clues as to how receptive they are and be able to change your approach. The Spirit will guide you if you let them.

Likewise, keep in mind you are a lot of times just setting the stage for someone else.  
President Harry S. Truman said: “The fundamental basis of this nation’s laws was given to Moses on the Mount.  The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings…  If we don't have the proper fundamental moral background, we will finally wind up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the state.”

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Re: If you had an hour to talk to someone about God ...
« Reply #13 on: August 05, 2020, 01:35:02 PM »
I think everyone is different and no matter what way you tell someone about Christ/God/Holy Spirit you should look for clues as to how receptive they are and be able to change your approach. The Spirit will guide you if you let them.

Likewise, keep in mind you are a lot of times just setting the stage for someone else. 

I agree with all of this.

I think 'brig hit on it pretty well --- "If it’s not personal, it’s all theoretical.", which was my line of thinking as far as personalizing things, and giving a concrete, real life example of uniqueness.  Otherwise, one may only conceptualize things, and think it's the same blueprint for everyone.  And as you always say, Dan, which is so true, "It is a personal relationship with the Lord."  And from what I can tell, they are all unique, and have come to being in all different ways.  Mine is not the same as yours, yours not like Brigs, and so on.

My story most closely resembles how C.S. Lewis came to know Christ, although I wasn't actively resisting, I sure as hell wasn't seeking Him out, either.  Sharing a similar experience with the great C.S. Lewis certainly doesn't hurt the feeling that it was real, and the correct choice.  :)  God was knocking on my door.  All I had to do was answer the knock.  I eventually did.  I thank my Father every day for knocking more than once.  It's a truly beautiful story, and it is mine alone.  If I was forced to admit that it makes me misty eyed to recount, and reflect on my "saving", I would do so unashamed.


He eventually returned to Christianity, having been influenced by arguments with his Oxford colleague and Christian friend J. R. R. Tolkien, whom he seems to have met for the first time on 11 May 1926, and the book The Everlasting Man by G. K. Chesterton. Lewis vigorously resisted conversion, noting that he was brought into Christianity like a prodigal, "kicking, struggling, resentful, and darting his eyes in every direction for a chance to escape".[46] He described his last struggle in Surprised by Joy:
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You must picture me alone in that room in Magdalen [College, Oxford], night after night, feeling, whenever my mind lifted even for a second from my work, the steady, unrelenting approach of Him whom I so earnestly desired not to meet. That which I greatly feared had at last come upon me. In the Trinity Term of 1929 I gave in, and admitted that God was God, and knelt and prayed: perhaps, that night, the most dejected and reluctant convert in all England.[47]

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