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fuzzynavol

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Ho-hum...
« on: October 12, 2018, 10:52:05 PM »
During a rally in Lebanon, Ohio, President Donald Trump called Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee "a great general," and said President Abraham Lincoln "almost developed a phobia" over Lee's defeat.


https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2018/10/13/trump-lincoln-lee-grant-great-general-ohio-rally-sot-vpx.cnn/video/playlists/intl-from-the-us/

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Re: Ho-hum...
« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2018, 10:59:31 PM »

That's called chum.  Trump likes to throw it out on occasion.  He's smarter than you.  Enjoy.

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« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2018, 11:23:24 PM »

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« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2018, 11:42:36 PM »
Slavery in New Jersey began in the early 17th century, when Dutch colonists imported African slaves for labor to develop their colony of New Netherland. After England took control the colony in 1664, its colonists continued the importation of slaves from Africa. They also imported "seasoned" slaves from their colonies in the West Indies and enslaved Native Americans from the Carolinas.

Most Dutch and English immigrants entered the colony as indentured servants, who worked for a fixed number of years to repay their passage. As conditions in England improved and the number of indentured laborers declined, New Jersey's colonists imported more Africans for needed labor. To promote increasing the number of laborers and settlers in order to develop the colony, the colonial government awarded settlers headrights of 60 acres (24 ha) of land for each person transported to the colony. In 1704, after East Jersey and West Jersey unified, the Province of New Jersey passed a slave code prohibiting slaves and free blacks from owning property, further restricting African Americans in the state.

After the Revolutionary War, many northern states rapidly passed laws to abolish slavery, but New Jersey did not abolish it until 1804, and then in a process of gradual emancipation similar to that of New York. But, in New Jersey, some slaves were held as late as 1865. (In New York, they were all freed by 1827.) The law made African Americans free at birth, but it required children (born to slave mothers), to serve lengthy apprenticeships as a type of indentured servant until early adulthood for the masters of their slave mothers. New Jersey was the last of the Northern states to abolish slavery completely. The last 16 slaves in New Jersey were freed in 1865 by the Thirteenth Amendment.

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« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2018, 12:23:42 AM »
It seems that the soldiers from the Civil War got over it and reconciled more than many in this generation....

https://www.neh.gov/humanities/2011/julyaugust/feature/how-did-robert-e-lee-become-american-icon

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In short, what mattered now was not why each side had fought, but simply that each had fought honorably and well, a fact that should inspire feelings not of resentment but of brotherhood, regardless of who wore the blue and who the gray. When more than 53,000 of these old soldiers came together for the fiftieth anniversary of the Battle of Gettysburg in July 1913, it was not, as Virginia governor William Hodges Mann admonished the group, “to discuss what caused the war of 1861–65,” but simply “to talk over the events of the battle here as man to man.”



After President Dwight D. Eisenhower revealed on national television that one of the four “great Americans” whose pictures hung in his office was none other than Robert E. Lee, a thoroughly perplexed New York dentist reminded him that Lee had devoted “his best efforts to the destruction of the United States government” and confessed that since he could not see “how any American can include Robert E. Lee as a person to be emulated, why the President of the United States of America should do so is certainly beyond me.” Eisenhower replied personally and without hesitation, explaining that Lee was, “in my estimation, one of the supremely gifted men produced by our Nation. . . . selfless almost to a fault . . . noble as a leader and as a man, and unsullied as I read the pages of our history. From deep conviction I simply say this: a nation of men of Lee’s caliber would be unconquerable in spirit and soul. Indeed, to the degree that present-day American youth will strive to emulate his rare qualities . . . we, in our own time of danger in a divided world, will be strengthened and our love of freedom sustained.”

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Re: Ho-hum...
« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2018, 01:54:53 PM »
During a rally in Lebanon, Ohio, President Donald Trump called Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee "a great general," and said President Abraham Lincoln "almost developed a phobia" over Lee's defeat.


https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2018/10/13/trump-lincoln-lee-grant-great-general-ohio-rally-sot-vpx.cnn/video/playlists/intl-from-the-us/
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President Harry S. Truman said: “The fundamental basis of this nation’s laws was given to Moses on the Mount.  The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings…  If we don't have the proper fundamental moral background, we will finally wind up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the state.”

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« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2018, 02:01:47 PM »
Fuzzy you left wing inbred liberals should know the facts of history before starting with all that diarrhea of the mouth you have.

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Because of his reputation as one of the finest officers in the United States Army, Abraham Lincoln offered Lee the command of the Federal forces in April 1861. Lee declined and tendered his resignation from the army when the state of Virginia seceded on April 17, arguing that he could not fight against his own people.  Instead, he accepted a general’s commission in the newly formed Confederate Army.


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« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2018, 02:03:54 PM »
General Lee knew how to flank an enemies position....Hell, even in Nam, one of our captains worshiped General Lee's tactics.....He said, even from a defensive position, flank the bastards, and we did....The look on their faces, as we came from out of their flank bushes, was priceless...They took that look to the grave.....................Period!

Lee was a hell of a general...........Big Period!
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