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fuzzynavol

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Ho-hum...
« on: April 08, 2019, 04:35:41 PM »
I see this kind of story daily and can imagine the uproar here from the right if Obama had done any of these things.  Here's the latest just from today:
West Palm Beach, Fla. -- A woman from China, accused of illegally entering President Trump's Mar-a-Lago resort, is due in court Monday. The Secret Service said Yujing Zhang reached the reception desk before she was stopped last month. She was allegedly carrying two Chinese passports, four cellphones, and a thumb drive full of malicious software. 
The purpose of the hearing Monday is to determine if Zhang should be released on bond, reports CBS News correspondent Manuel Bojorquez. Federal prosecutors believe she's a flight risk. Her arrest has raised concerns about foreign agents infiltrating Mar-a-Lago.
Mr. Trump defended the security measures at Mar-a-Lago, his so-called "winter White House." 
"No, I'm not concerned at all. I have -- we have very good control," Mr. Trump said.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/gaping-hole-for-foreign-spies-at-trumps-florida-resort-ex-cia-officer-says/ar-BBVJ2ZK?li=BBnb7Kz

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Re: Ho-hum...
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2019, 04:39:04 PM »

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Re: Ho-hum...
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2019, 04:39:09 PM »
I see this kind of story daily and can imagine the uproar here from the right if Obama had done any of these things.  

Yes, I would be in an uproar if Obama broke into someone's home.

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Re: Ho-hum...
« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2019, 04:49:28 PM »
How hard is it to reach the "reception desk" at most private clubs?  It's not clear to me what that even means.  I'm sure many have an external gate with guards who check who should be allowed access, and perhaps they do here as well and she circumvented that.  But what additional security would be AFTER the reception desk?

I presume this is a private resort type thing, right?  Like a country club?  The places I've been are pretty easy to get to the "reception desk" and there you need to be with a member etc.

And perhaps they have additional security when the President is on the premises.

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Re: Ho-hum...
« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2019, 06:18:57 PM »
While Dems are obsessed with Russia, I think that the real threat is China.


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Re: Ho-hum...
« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2019, 06:25:14 PM »
I'd say that is "obvious" to most, longer term.  China is playing the Long Game with the goal of becoming the dominant country in the world economically and militarily and with influence.

And they are good at the Long Game when they have a stable governmental system.  Two of their "issues" may be oil and pollution.  I suspect they will "drive" the rest of us to EVs by mandating them in the fairly short term to reduce oil dependency and pollution.


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« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2019, 06:42:40 PM »
I see this kind of story daily and can imagine the uproar here from the right if Obama had done any of these things.  Here's the latest just from today:
West Palm Beach, Fla. -- A woman from China, accused of illegally entering President Trump's Mar-a-Lago resort, is due in court Monday. The Secret Service said Yujing Zhang reached the reception desk before she was stopped last month. She was allegedly carrying two Chinese passports, four cellphones, and a thumb drive full of malicious software.
The purpose of the hearing Monday is to determine if Zhang should be released on bond, reports CBS News correspondent Manuel Bojorquez. Federal prosecutors believe she's a flight risk. Her arrest has raised concerns about foreign agents infiltrating Mar-a-Lago.
Mr. Trump defended the security measures at Mar-a-Lago, his so-called "winter White House."
"No, I'm not concerned at all. I have -- we have very good control," Mr. Trump said.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/gaping-hole-for-foreign-spies-at-trumps-florida-resort-ex-cia-officer-says/ar-BBVJ2ZK?li=BBnb7Kz
First you have to ask yourself would the MSM have reported it if there was any chance it would make Obama look bad.  They didn't report a lot of bad stuff, which is why you think he's so dreamy.  Like the picture of Barry with Farrakhan, it would have been withheld until after his presidency, at least.  
But you wouldn't think that way.  There really was nothing bad to report about Obama, was there?   Black man good; orange man bad.   
Second, why is this even news?  Some chick went to his property and got stopped?  So?  Do you think there was something clandestine going on, and that the Secret Service stepped in to stop the exchange of malicious software?   Was Trump going to take that flash drive and use it to take down the Pentagon servers?   I know - Trump has his daily calls from Putin on cell phones provided by some Chinese spy.  You have to rotate phones once in awhile you know.  Morning Joe will probably bring in some "experts" to talk about that on tomorrow's show - tune in!   


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Re: Ho-hum...
« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2019, 06:46:46 PM »
While Dems are obsessed with Russia, I think that the real threat is China.
I'll raise you one. 
A Russia - China coalition. 
Last year they teamed up for the largest training exercise since the Cold War, if I remember correctly. 

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« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2019, 06:56:09 PM »
They are really big on sharing on trade and bypassing the US dollar.

But I seriously doubt that they share much in terms of intelligence, at least from what I've seen and heard after 25+ years living in Hong Kong.


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Re: Ho-hum...
« Reply #9 on: April 08, 2019, 09:35:56 PM »
Yes, I would be in an uproar if Obama broke into someone's home.

I doubt Obama would have made it past the receptionist either.

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« Reply #10 on: April 09, 2019, 01:47:28 AM »
First you have to ask yourself would the MSM have reported it if there was any chance it would make Obama look bad.  They didn't report a lot of bad stuff, which is why you think he's so dreamy.  Like the picture of Barry with Farrakhan, it would have been withheld until after his presidency, at least.  
But you wouldn't think that way.  There really was nothing bad to report about Obama, was there?   Black man good; orange man bad.  
Second, why is this even news?  Some chick went to his property and got stopped?  So?  Do you think there was something clandestine going on, and that the Secret Service stepped in to stop the exchange of malicious software?   Was Trump going to take that flash drive and use it to take down the Pentagon servers?   I know - Trump has his daily calls from Putin on cell phones provided by some Chinese spy.  You have to rotate phones once in awhile you know.  Morning Joe will probably bring in some "experts" to talk about that on tomorrow's show - tune in!  
Obama has nothing to do with the original post.  It may be something that has been addressed and is a non-factor, but there is no doubt that public access to Trump at Mar-a-Lago represents a greater security risk than if Trump spent his weekends at Camp David.  There have been reports earlier of Trump dining with foreign leaders at the restaurant in front of other patrons.  I can't imagine this is the first attempt by someone to try and infiltrate Mar-a-Lago to gather information.  

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« Reply #11 on: April 09, 2019, 07:54:08 AM »
Obama has nothing to do with the original post.  

Except that Obama was mentioned in the original post.  "I see this kind of story daily and can imagine the uproar here from the right if Obama had done any of these things. "

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« Reply #12 on: April 09, 2019, 09:07:26 AM »
My point was that between Trump circumventing White House security clearance for individuals who don't merit it, and the lax security at Mar-a-lago, the Right would have made a bigger deal of that had Obama done that than they did of "Hillary's emails" (which they still talk about constantly).  From the left and in the MSM, it gets mentioned, but it's just today's screw-up from Trump, and something new will replace it tomorrow.  

 

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