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Has the End of Time Drawn Near?
« on: October 07, 2020, 03:24:12 PM »
When Jesus’ disciples asked their Teacher about the signs of His coming and the end of the world, He did not specify a date, but rather talked to them about signs whose purpose was nothing other than indicating that “the coming of the Lord is near.” Then He tells them, “But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven nor the Son, but My Father only,” because the Son of Man “comes (like a thief) in the hour they do not expect.”

It is not for man to prophesy about the end of the world and venture to propose dates for it. Jesus warned His disciples about such people, describing them as false prophets and antichrists. The Christian must only be ready at every moment for Christ’s coming. There is an ancient text iterpreting the Gospel of Matthew whose author is anonymous which says, “What is the reason for concealing the date of death from man? The date is hidden from man so that he will constantly do good, expecting death at every moment. Likewise, the date of Christ’s second coming was hidden from the world so that the generations may spend their life in expectation of His return.”

“Watch therefore, for you do not know what day your Lord is coming.” In his interpretation of this verse, Saint Hilary of Poitier (d. 367) says, “The Lord is teaching us that there are benefits to our ignorance of the date of His return (which He has concealed from all by His silence), spurring us to keep watch and keep His commandments. We must be occupied with constant prayer in order to prevent the thief from sneaking in… It is good for us to be prepared. Our ignorance of the date of Christ’s coming must spur us to be awake, since we await His coming eagerly.”

When the Church talks about Christ’s second coming, she does not mean to say that He came two thousand years ago and then was completely absent until He comes again at the end of time. Christ is present in His Church and has not been absent from her for a moment. Therefore the Christian must live as though the end of the world has occurred, since the Church is an image of the kingdom to come and Christ is present in her through the holy mysteries and His living word. So what more is there to wait for than this? What is meant by the second coming is when Christ will visibly appear for a second time before all the peoples.

What confirms what we have said is that the signs that Christ mentioned in His reply to the apostles are signs that have been repeated over the course of history, even in every generation. Indeed, we encounter these signs at every time and place since the creation of the world– wars, famines, plagues, earthquakes and floods… Let us not forget that the first world war happened when Cain killed Abel: half the world killed the other half! And epidemics from the Black Plague to the Spanish Flu to AIDS and swine influenza and natural disasters from Noah’s Flood to the tsunami in Indonesia… each generation has its wars, its plagues and its natural disasters. Therefore these signs serve to remind the faithful to do good and repent and are not simply to announce to them the end of the world.

The sin that dominates the world today is not new and so it is not possible to predict the date of the end on the basis of the events that are occurring today, especially in our countries from the Tigris and Euphrates to the Mediterranean. The Apostle Paul says, “But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away!” (2 Timothy 3:1-5).

There is no benefit to talking about the end of the world with a literal interpretation. Instead, we must regard it as a call to repentance and goodness. After all, is not each person’s death the end of the world for him?! For him, what is the difference between a single death and the deaths of six billion people alongside him, at that moment? Why should we occupy ourselves with a matter in which we have absolutely no say? Our lack of knowledge of precise times is a great mercy from God!


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President Harry S. Truman said: “The fundamental basis of this nation’s laws was given to Moses on the Mount.  The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings…  If we don't have the proper fundamental moral background, we will finally wind up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the state.”

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Possible peace deal with Syria in the makings?
« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2020, 03:28:12 PM »
A leading Arab media source is reporting Syrian President Bashar al-Assad is seeking normalization of ties with Israel.


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President Harry S. Truman said: “The fundamental basis of this nation’s laws was given to Moses on the Mount.  The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings…  If we don't have the proper fundamental moral background, we will finally wind up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the state.”

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Signs of the End of the World. Is the Time Ripe?
« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2020, 10:26:52 AM »
A Sermon of the Holy Martyr Gregory (Lebedev), Bishop of Schlisselburg, on the degeneration of the Universe.

In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit!
Brethren, last Sunday when I did not see you, you along with the Church prayed to God as to the inexorable Judge, because it was the Sunday of the Last Judgement. What a coincidence! Along with the church’s call there were underground tremors that, as you know, already swept through Northern Europe.
It seemed that earth gave a warning signal, and at that time the Church sang “Behold, the Bridegroom comes at midnight”. Involuntarily, brethren, the question arises: when?
People try to guess in vain: all their attempts are futile, and no matter how much a human mind can come up with, no one will know this mystery. God Himself said: “But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, but My Father only”. Deepening this thought of Christ, Apostle Paul says that this day will come “as a thief in the night”, i.e. when people do not expect it, and it will be like in the Noah’s times: people drank, ate, had fun, married, and no one thought about anything until all were dead. By extension, Apostle Paul says: the end will come when from human’s perspective everything will be calm, when people will say: “peace and assertion”. Then the end will come! When people will think that everything is all right, then the destruction will come.
Involuntarily our thought is directed to the Gospel, to the Apocalypse, and even to the Old Testament while looking for an answer to this puzzle: so, when? However, one should approach this issue not with curiosity, but with prayer. Church does not bless morbid curiosity but condemns it. It does not even bless the reading of the Apocalypse where the coming of the Son of Man is disclosed in symbolic images. Look, at all times of the year the reading of the Apocalypse during the liturgy is not allowed, because it is a mystery.
So, what are people meant to know about it? Christ Himself specified the signs of the Second Coming to the disciples’ request to tell them when it will happen. These words of Christ were written down by three evangelists: Matthew, Mark, and Luke.
This is what God Himself says about it: “Take heed that no one deceives you. For many will come in My name, saying, “I am Christ”, and will deceive many. And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars (i.e. preparations for war)… but the end is not yet… For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. And there will be famines, pestilences, and earthquakes in various places. All these are the beginning of sorrows. Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and kill you, and you will be hated by all nations for My name’s sake. And then many will be offended…” (Matthew 24:4-10) Love will run out in people: there will be hatred, malice, and betrayal. “Then the end will come” (Matthew 24:14).
Examining this list of signs, one can divide them into two groups. The first one consists of signs of a physical nature: famines or depletion of supplies; pestilences or epidemic diseases; and earthquakes in various places, war, or preparations for war. These are the signs of a physical nature. The second group is of a moral nature: the seduction of tons of people with new idols, the loss of faith, the depletion of love; hatred, malice, and betrayal will rule over people!
In both groups there is one thought: the end will be only then, when the world, the whole universe comes to its degeneration. After all, the world is practical, i.e. it has a certain meaning and objectives. The Earth spins not because it must spin, and people live not because they must live. When the universe completes its cycle and comes to its degeneration, then the end will come. This is clear. From the point of view of Divine Providence, it would be absurd to assume that the universe spins for no reason, and that people live for nothing. No, no!
The human power is implemented in one way or another, and the end will come, when the world is ripe… Does a gardener leave a ripe apple on an apple tree? Never!
The seduction of the masses with new idols, the depletion of love in people, hatred, malice: tell me, what is it? Is not it degeneration? Of course, it is! The lack of faith and betrayal even in the matters of faith is a fall, lower and deeper of which one cannot imagine. Is not it degeneration? Clearly, it is! These are the moral signs that determine degeneration of a person.
The same goes for the physical nature: the human body grows old and gets affected by epidemic diseases that follow one after another. The universe is degenerating, stocks are getting depleted, natural resources are getting destroyed, hence famines. The world is decrepitating, and the Earth is compressing its crust, hence earthquakes in various places. Well? Is the world ripe?
Has the world come to its degeneration? I do not know. Look! It is up to you; it is up to people to decide. Christ said so: recognize it by the signs! When branches of a fig tree become soft, you wonder: summer is coming. Right?
Now, you have the signs. Decide for yourself! You have a “shutter” for this, so to speak. Your eyes, ears, and conscience are such a “shutter”. Look! Listen! You also have a “shutter” of a bigger size: your radio. You hear almost the whole universe in the invisible waves that the radio picks up. Come up to it more often and listen. What will you hear? A jazz band? Foxtrot? Is the whole universe indeed spinning in this disgusting stench? That is terrible, brethren!
You wonder when? It is a mistake. Leave it, Christ did not call you to wonder… If you are getting nervous, calculating the years, or looking for names, then it is a mistake!
That is not what Christ called for. He told His disciples: “Watch therefore!”.
What can be added to these words of Christ? Nothing, of course! Watch therefore! Watch therefore, brethren, watch therefore! Amen.
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President Harry S. Truman said: “The fundamental basis of this nation’s laws was given to Moses on the Mount.  The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings…  If we don't have the proper fundamental moral background, we will finally wind up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the state.”

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On the Second Coming of Our Lord Jesus Christ
« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2020, 04:12:48 PM »
1. Attend and come, ye sons of light, and hearken to that blessed voice of our Savior, who says to us: Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom of the heavens (Mt 25:34). Look, my brethren: let none of you be deprived of this blessed inheritance. For, behold, he is at the gates. Light from Light has come down to us and has illumined us and brought us up toward the Light. He has come down to us by becoming as we are, that we might be made like him. The Immortal descended to mortals and, making them immortal, ascended again to the Father. Now he comes with the glory of the blessed Father to judge the living and the dead. He has become a Way for us, full of light and glory, that we might walk in light towards the Father.

2. Come, beloved, let us walk onto the Way which the Lord has shown us, that with joy we might enter into his kingdom. Let us take provisions and oil in our coffers, for the length of this Way is not slight. Let us gird our loins with purity and truth as men and genuine slaves receiving their Master. Let us hang our lamps and nobly keep vigil. For we are waiting to receive our Lord from the heavens. Let us not slumber, that our lamps might not be extinguished. Come, it is time. The night is spent and the day draws near. Ye sons of light, approach the Light. Go out with joy to meet our Lord. Show him your virtues. Bring him your asceticism and your discipline, your tears and your poverty. Do not be indolent. Do not drift off or sleep. Let none of you look back, but direct the eye of your soul upwards, to that celestial beauty. Lift your eye to that joy, ye heirs of the Father and co-heirs of the Only-begotten Son of God. Behold, all these things has our Lord given us. What, then, shall we render unto him, beloved?

3. Come, let us tear from ourselves every thought and care of this age, and with great zeal and much desire, let us serve him alone. For behold the day has truly drawn near, and his coming has truly arrived. Come, then, brethren, let us prepare ourselves and keep watch, receiving our Lord and immortal Bridegroom. For, behold, he has shone forth. Behold, he has dawned. For that cry rings out suddenly: ‘Behold the bridegroom cometh.’ Go out to meet him all ye that love him and prepare to see him with glory. For he will make glad all them that long for him, in that ineffable and eternal bridal chamber, full of light and radiance. Take heed, my brethren, lest, when that cry rings out, any of you be found holding a lamp that is dark and lacking oil, or, being clad in a soiled and tainted garment, any of you be condemned to the outer darkness, and to that undying and eternal punishment, where there is weeping and gnashing of teeth.

4. Let us assure ourselves, my beloved, that we do not know when our Lord comes. For that day comes as a thief in the night, and as a snare. As the fastest lightning, so does the coming of the Lord occur. For the trumpet will sound, and the earth will tremble at its foundations. The heavens, with their hosts, will be shaken, and all the dead will rise. Alas, alas, beloved! Who, in that hour, will not fear the examination of his heart? Forgive my weakness. For I understand that, in that hour, every breath will tremble. But the grace of God strengthens and gladdens the hearts of the righteous; and they are taken up in the clouds to meet him. While those who have become indolent and sluggish like me remain trembling on the earth.

5. Let us lift ourselves up a little from the earth, my beloved, and let us ascend without hesitation to heaven. What does the world profit us, when we shackle ourselves to its concerns? Or what do we gain from the beautification of our garments except unquenchable fire? Or what do we reap from obsession over food except eternal chastisement? Know for certain that unless we struggle in this brief period of time, we will repent in that place for eternity.

6. Dearest brethren, why are we negligent, and why are we indolent? Why do we not prepare ourselves? For behold, the day of the Lord has drawn near to us. Why do we not tear from us every unprofitable concern and lift ourselves up from the burden of things? Do you not know that the gate is narrow and strait, and the heavy-laden cannot enter in through it? For it loves those who have nothing, and who afflict themselves voluntarily in asceticism and vigils, who prepare themselves to see the immortal Bridegroom with glory, that they might inherit the kingdom of the heavens.

7. For behold, my beloved, the gate calls to us, saying, “Make haste and come to me.” Behold, our mother, Jerusalem, also tells us, “Come, my dear children. Come to me. Multiply your number in me and in the bridal chamber of your Lord. Let yours choirs be magnified with the holy angels in the light. I see you with glory and majesty, and with gladness and rejoicing. Desire me, my children, as I desire you. Acquire nothing on the earth. Take care for nothing. For behold the Bridegroom is ready to proceed on the clouds of heaven with the glory of his blessed Father. He will call you each by name, and he will place you within the ranks of those saints who abide in that ineffable light, in the life that is untainted, immortal, and eternal, in proportion to your toils.


8. Let us be zealous, my brethren. Let us be zealous in this brief period of time. Let us not be negligent here, my beloved, lest we be rueful for endless ages, where tears and groans will be of no avail; where there is no repentance. In your zeal, my beloved, the angels and archangels rejoice, while in your indolence rejoices the enemy. Be zealous, my dear children. Be zealous, that I may be glad in you, and you in me, for eternity. I fall down before you, Lord Jesus Christ, Son of the living God. Grant to me, and to those who love you, to see you with glory in your kingdom, and to inherit it with those who desire you, O Lord, my Master.

9. My beloved, if we are negligent in this brief period of time, we will have no defense on that fearful day. For we will not find an excuse for our sins. For when our Lord and Savior descended to earth for our sake, our every excuse was taken away. For by his coming he bestowed on us eternal life. We were his enemies, and he brought us reconciliation; earthly, and we have become heavenly; mortal, and we have been deemed immortal; slaves of sin, and we have been freed; poor, and we have been made rich. We were lost and have been found; hated, and we have been loved; unrighteous, and we have been made righteous. We were without mercy, and we have been shown mercy; sinners, and we have been saved; scattered, and we have been gathered together; earth and dust, and we have become sons of God; naked, and we have been covered. We have become heirs of God, and co-heirs of his Only-begotten Son. Behold, our Lord has bestowed all these things upon us. What, then, shall we give him in return, my beloved?

10. Come, let us tear from us every concern and care of this futile age, and let us serve him alone with great zeal and much eagerness. For, behold, his day has truly drawn near, and his coming has really arrived. Come, then, my brethren, prepare yourselves and keep watch, awaiting our Lord and immortal Bridegroom. For, behold, he has shone forth. Behold, he has dawned. Behold, he has come. The night is far spent, and the day draws near. Sons of light, approach the Light. Go out to meet him with joy. Show him your virtues. Bring to him your asceticism and your self-discipline, your vigils and your exertion, your tears and poverty. Do not be indolent, then. Do not doze. Do not sleep. Let none of you look back, but direct the eye of your soul upward to that supercelestial beauty. Hold your eye up to that joy of the immortal Bridegroom, whereby our soul is satiated from the contemplation of his glory, brilliance, and comeliness.



11. Let anyone who is hungry be patient. For, behold, the table of the kingdom awaits him. Let anyone who is thirsty endure. For, behold, the delight of Paradise is prepared for him. Let anyone who keeps vigil, who chants, prays, and laments, be strong, for the joy of our Lord’s bridal chamber will comfort him. Seeing all these things, let us acquire nothing on the earth, my beloved brethren. On that day each of us must show which virtue we have acquired in the present, or which struggles we endured, or which asceticism, or which act of vigilance we performed.

12. What, my brethren? When the martyrs show the wounds of their sufferings and tortures, and when the noble ascetics show their asceticism and self-discipline, their patience and affliction, and their poverty, will the indolent, the sluggish, and the indifferent have anything in which to boast? Will they boast of their vanity, their indolence, and their perdition? Woe to them, for they wickedly indulged in negligence! Woe to them, for they were indolent!

13. Come, my friends. Come, let us be zealous. Come, let us fall down before him. Let us be contrite and lament unceasingly before his face, that he may grant illumination to our soul. Let us understand the wiles of our enemy, our adversary and hater of what is good. He throws before us ways to slip, scandals, the harm that comes from having too much, the lengthening of this age, carnal pleasure, further expectation for more years in the present life, cowardice in asceticism, sluggishness in prayer, sleep in psalmody, and carnal rest. The more zealous he is, the more negligent and indolent we are. The more he plots, the more contemptuous we are, resenting the fact that the days have been shortened, and the time has come, and the Lord of glory comes with the majesty of his comeliness, and with the fearful hosts of his kingdom, to render to each according to his deeds. I fear, my brethren, lest the word that the Lord spoke be fulfilled in us: that They will come from the east and from the west and from the north and from the sea, and will recline with Abraham and Isaac and Jacob in the kingdom of the heavens, but you will be cast out.



14. I beseech you, Christ, the Light of truth, offspring of the blessed Father, impress and effulgence of his hypostasis, who sits at the right hand of his greatness, uncircumscribed Son, unsearchable Christ, and inscrutable God, boast and joy of those who love you, Christ my life: save me a sinner in thy kingdom. The weary laborer hopes to receive his rewards. Woe is me: my tongue is weary of doxology. But do not render to me according to me deeds as I have done. But save me by thy grace, and have compassion on me by thy tender mercies. For thou art blessed and glorified unto the ages. Amen.

* «Εἰς τὴν δευτέραν παρουσίαν τοῦ Κυρίου ἡμῶν Ἰησοῦ Χριστοῦ [CPG 3920],» ed. K.G. Phrantzoles, Ὁσίου Ἐφραίμ τοῦ Σύρου ἔργα 3 (Thessaloniki: Garden of the Panaghia, 1990), 404-415.

This was later translated into Latin by Ambrosius Traversari (Florence, 1481).


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Who Is the Antichrist and What Will His Rise Look Like?
« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2020, 12:47:26 PM »
To better understand the person of the antichrist, you can begin by reading Revelation 13:1-4. As you read, ask God to help you understand His Word (Psalms 119:73).

In this Scripture passage, we witness the rise of the antichrist, who will come into great power during the tribulation period. With your Bible still accessible, consider the following insights on the biblical text, verse by verse. The below points about the antichrist will help us understand what he is, what he will do, signs and events around his rise to power, and ultimately his goal.

What and Who Is the Antichrist?
Revelation 13:1-4

1. A beast - I saw a beast rising out of the sea (13:1): Revelation pictures the antichrist as a beast 32 times. The image points to the brutal, bloody, uncontrolled, and wild character of this diabolical dictator. It also contrasts the antichrist from Christ, who is most commonly called the Lamb. The Lamb saves sinners, but the beast persecutes and executes the saints. The Lamb is gentle, whereas the beast is ferocious. The Lamb is loving, but the beast is heartless and cruel.

2. A Gentile - This beast "rises out of the sea" - The sea refers to the Gentile nations (Revelation 17:15), indicating that the antichrist will be a Gentile. “Anti” can mean “instead of ” or “against” or “opposed to.” So “antichrist” can mean “instead of Christ,” “against Christ,” or “opposed to Christ.” The antichrist is the “man of lawlessness,” the “son of destruction,” who will lead the world into rebellion against God (2 Thessalonians 2:3-10; Revelation 11:7) and deceive multitudes (Revelation 19:20).

3. Great Power - "With ten horns and seven heads" (13:1): We have seen that because animals use horns as weapons (Genesis 22:13; Psalms 69:31), horns eventually became symbols of power and then of dominion, representing kingdoms and kings.



4. Roman Revival - Comparing this text with Daniel 7:16-24, we conclude that the antichrist will rise up from ten kingdoms that will constitute a revived Roman Empire, the final form of Gentile world power before Christ returns.

Some Bible expositors say the seven heads are the principal rulers of the antichrist’s revived Roman Empire. Others suggest that the seven heads may be successive world empires — Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece, Rome, and the antichrist’s revived Roman Empire. Still others say the seven heads represent seven mountains (Revelation 17:9). A mountain can symbolize a kingdom (see Daniel 2:34-45). This may be a veiled reference to Rome, which was built on seven hills (Revelation 17:18). All these views support the idea that antichrist’s kingdom will be a revived Roman Empire.

5. Global Power - "With ten diadems on its horns" (13:1): The ten diadems, or crowns, point to the dominion of the antichrist’s kingdom, which will eventually embrace the entire globe.

6. Will Blaspheme - "and blasphemous names on its heads" (13:1): These point to the antichrist’s character — he will have a mouth full of blasphemy (Revelation 13:5-6) and will exalt himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped (2 Thessalonians 2:4).

7. Great Army - "The beast was like a leopard" (13:2): Much of the imagery in this verse is from Daniel 7. The leopard was known for swiftness, cunning, and agility (see Daniel 7:6). This imagery in Daniel represents Greece under Alexander the Great, which had a swift, cunning, and agile army. Such will be the case with the antichrist as he comes into world dominion.



8. Fierce - "its feet were like a bear’s" (13:2): The bear in Daniel’s account refers to Medo-Persia (Daniel 7:5), well known for its strength and fierceness in battle (Isaiah 13:17-18). Such strength and fierceness will certainly characterize the antichrist and his forces.

9. Powerful Words - "Its mouth was like a lion’s" (13:2): The lion in Daniel’s account refers to Babylon (Daniel 7:4), with lion-like qualities of power and strength. Babylon was known for its ability to move quickly (like a lion). Such qualities will characterize the antichrist.

A comparison of Revelation 13:2 with Daniel 7 reveals that the final world empire of the antichrist — a revived Roman Empire — will be rooted in all the previous empires. It will unite in a single kingdom the evil and power that characterized all the previous kingdoms.

10. Satan - "To it the dragon gave his power and his throne and great authority" (13:2): The ultimate source of the antichrist’s power is Satan.

11. Resurrected Dead? - "Seemed to have a mortal wound" (13:3): Some Bible expositors believe this mortal wound refers to the pagan Roman Empire, which died in the past but will be revived in the end times. Others say a historical character of the past, such as Nero, Judas Iscariot, Mussolini, Hitler, or Stalin, will come back to life and fulfill the role of the antichrist in the end times. Others say the antichrist will actually be killed and then resurrected. Still others say that perhaps the antichrist will be severely wounded, and Satan will supernaturally heal this wound. Perhaps he will simply appear to be killed, though he really is not, and through satanic trickery will appear to be resurrected.



The revived Roman Empire view seems unfeasible because Revelation 13:12 specifically refers to “the first beast, whose mortal wound was healed.” The “first beast” is the antichrist. Then, in Revelation 13:14, we find a parallel reference to “the beast that was wounded by the sword and yet lived.” This verse is interpreted most naturally as referring to a person — not a reincarnation of a past person, but a unique anti-God person of the future.

It is unlikely that the antichrist will actually be resurrected, but he may give the appearance of having been resurrected. Satan has supernatural abilities (John 12:31; 2 Corinthians 4:4; Ephesians 2:2), but he is not powerful enough to resurrect people from the dead. Only God can create life (Genesis 1:1, Genesis 1:21; Deuteronomy 32:39); the devil cannot (see Exodus 8:19). The devil has great power to deceive people (Revelation 12:9). He is a master magician and a super-scientist.

With his vast knowledge of God, man, and the universe, he is able to perform counterfeit miracles (2 Thessalonians 2:9). Some theologians believe Satan may be able to perform limited “grade-B” miracles. But only God can perform “grade-A” miracles. Only God can fully control and supersede the natural laws He Himself created. Satan will likely engage in a grade-B miracle in healing the wounded (but not dead) antichrist or engage in some kind of masterful deception, or perhaps a combination of both. In any event, the antichrist will appear to be resurrected from the dead. 2 Corinthians 4:4 informs us that Satan can blind peoples’ minds. If Satan pulls off some kind of counterfeit resurrection, he may blind people’s minds so that they accept this as an indication of the antichrist’s power and deity and subsequently worship him.



f the antichrist only appears to be dead but is not genuinely dead, a scenario suggested by Bible scholar Walter Price becomes viable: The apostle Paul was stoned in Lystra, and the citizens “dragged him out of the city, supposing that he was dead” (Acts 14:19). While in an unconscious state, Paul “was caught up into Paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter” (2 Corinthians 12:4)... At the same time, he was thought to be dead, his spirit was caught up into the third heaven and there received a profound revelation from God. This same thing, in reverse, will happen to the Antichrist. The Antichrist...will be no more dead than was the apostle Paul. But just as the citizens of Lystra thought Paul was dead, so the Antichrist will be thought dead.1 Just as Paul’s spirit departed from his body and was taken to heaven, where he received further revelations, so the antichrist’s spirit may depart from his body and be taken into the abyss, where Satan will offer the world’s kingdoms to him. The antichrist’s spirit will then return from the abyss (Revelation 11:7), re-enter what appears to be a dead body, and thereby give the appearance of a resurrection from the dead. Mark Hitchcock suggests that while his spirit is in the abyss, the “Antichrist probably receives his orders and strategy from Satan, literally selling his soul to the devil, and then comes back to earth with hellish ferocity to establish his world domination over a completely awestruck earth.”2

12. World-Wide Attention - "The whole earth marveled as they followed the beast" (13:3): This event will no doubt make headlines around the world. Internet videos of the event will go viral. Television reports of the event will be shown around the clock.

13. Worshipped - "They worshiped the dragon" (13:4): During Christ’s three-year ministry, Satan tried to persuade Him to fall down and worship him (Matthew 4:9). Before that, Lucifer (Satan’s original name) sought to put himself in the place of God (see Isaiah 14:12-17; Ezekiel 28:11-19). Satan will finally have what he has yearned for—worship. They worshiped the beast... "Who is like the beast?” (13:4): This contrasts with believers, who say to God, “Who is like you, O Lord?” (Exodus 15:11).



Major Characteristics of the Antichrist
1. The genius of the antichrist. Scripture reveals that the antichrist will be a genius in intellect (Daniel 8:23), commerce (Daniel 11:43; Revelation 13:16-17), war (Revelation 6:2; Revelation 13:2), speech (Daniel 11:36), and politics (Revelation 17:11-12).

2. The antichrist mimics Christ. Christ is God (John 1:1-2; John 10:36), and the antichrist will claim to be God (2 Thessalonians 2:4). Christ did miracles (Matthew 9:32-33; Mark 6:2); the antichrist will mimic such miracles (Matthew 24:24; 2 Thessalonians 2:9). Christ is crowned with many crowns (Revelation 19:12); the antichrist is crowned with ten crowns (Revelation 13:1). Christ rides a white horse (Revelation 19:11) as does the antichrist (Revelation 6:2). Christ was resurrected (Matthew 28:6); the antichrist will appear to be resurrected (Revelation 13:3-14). Christ is a member of the holy Trinity—Father, Son, and Holy Spirit (2 Corinthians 13:14), but the antichrist is a member of an unholy trinity—Satan, the antichrist, and the false prophet (Revelation 13).

Cross-References for Further Study of the Antichrist
Blasphemy—Exodus 20:7; Leviticus 19:12; Leviticus 22:32; Deuteronomy 5:11; Matthew 12:31-32; 2 Thessalonians 2:4.

Satanic power—Job 1:12; Luke 4:6; Acts 26:18; Ephesians 6:12; 2 Thessalonians 2:9.

The worship of evil spirits (such as Satan)—Leviticus 17:7; Deuteronomy 32:17; 2 Chronicles 11:15; Psalms 106:37; 1 Corinthians 10:20; Revelation 9:20.

Application for Christians
1. Who is like the Lord? People will worship both the devil and the antichrist, saying, “Who is like the beast?” (Revelation 13:4). We, however, proclaim with the Scriptures, “Who is like you, O Lord?” (Exodus 15:11). The Lord declares, “There is none who can deliver from my hand” (Isaiah 43:13). The true God is incomparably great.

2. Test all things. We ought to consistently test all doctrines and religious ideas against Scripture. Even today, the spirit of antichrist is at work promoting heretical doctrine (see 1 John 4:1-3; 2 John 1:7). Scripture often warns against being deceived by false doctrine (Matthew 7:15-16; Matthew 24:4-11; Acts 20:28-30; 2 Corinthians 11:2-3; 2 Timothy 4:3-4). We protect ourselves by testing all teachings against Scripture (Acts 17:11; 1 Thessalonians 5:21).

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The Ascension: a Beginning, Not an Ending
« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2020, 03:35:21 PM »


If one read the four Gospels as if they were four separate biographies of Jesus, one might be forgiven for thinking that the Ascension narrated the end of the story. We have read narratives of Christ’s birth, His baptism, His temptation in the wilderness, His ministry, His crucifixion, His resurrection, and now at the last we come the narrative of His ascension, concluding the story of His life with a heavenly happy ending. Everyone loves a happy ending, and this one rounds out the story of Jesus by saying in effect, “And He lived happily ever after at the right hand of God”. In this way of thinking, the story is not finished without the Ascension.
It might therefore come as a surprise to learn that three out of the four canonical Gospels do not end with the Ascension or even narrate it at all. Matthew’s Gospel ends not with Christ ascending from us, but with His remaining with us, uttering the words, “Behold, I am with you always, even to the close of the age” (Matthew 28:20). The authentic ending of Mark’s Gospel ends with the discovery of the empty tomb (the last part of Christ’s public ministry, just as His baptism was the first part), and with the words that the women “fled from the tomb, for trembling and astonishment had seized them; and they said nothing to anyone, for they were afraid” (Mark 16:8). John’s Gospel ends with a third appearance of the risen Christ to His disciples by the Sea of Tiberias (scholars debate about whether or not it first ended with the earlier appearance to Thomas) and with John’s observation that if everything Jesus had done were to be written up, the world itself could not contain those books. John clearly knew about the ascension, for he records Christ’s words to Mary Magdalene, “Do not hold me, for I have not yet ascended to My Father” (John 20:17), but he does not narrate that ascension any more than Matthew does or Mark does. Only Luke narrates the ascension, adding almost as an afterthought that “while He was blessing them, He went away from them and was carried up into heaven” (Luke 24:51), the ascension event itself expressed in a mere five words in the Greek. Luke narrates it at somewhat greater length in his second volume, The Acts of the Apostles, saying with a similar economy of words, “while they were looking, He was taken up and a cloud received Him from their eyes” (Acts 1:9)—the event expressed in nine Greek words. What does all this mean?
For one thing it means that the Gospels are not biographies as we understand the term. But more importantly it reveals that the Ascension was not the ending of a story, but the beginning of one, not the conclusion of Christ’s life so much as the beginning of the life of the Church. It is no coincidence that the Evangelist who narrated the Ascension also narrated at great length and repeatedly the coming of the Holy Spirit on the Day of Pentecost, so that Luke is the Evangelist of the Holy Spirit as well as the Evangelist of the Ascension. The two events are connected, for one is the cause of the other. Christ foretold it during His last night with His disciples prior to His arrest: “It is to your advantage that I go away, for if I do not go away, the Comforter will not come to you; but if I go, I will send Him to you” (John 16:7). Luke narrated the fulfillment in the words of Peter’s Pentecostal sermon: “Being exalted to the right hand of God, and having received from the Father the promise of the Holy Spirit, He has poured out this which you both see and hear” (Acts 2:33).
The temptation is to regard the Holy Ascension as if it were the Holy Absence, as if Christ has gone away and we now have less of His presence than was available when He walked the earth. It is not so. While He walked the earth, the apostles could be with Him, but this nearness was conditioned by time and space, and there were times when they were not with Him. When He was not physically in Judea, for example, Mary and Martha could not be with Him. Now that He has been exalted to the Father’s right hand and has sent His Spirit, we can be near Him always, for His presence is no longer conditioned by time and space. Everyone can now be close to Jesus and by the power of the Spirit can be with Him every waking hour and even every sleeping hour. The Ascension and the sending of the Spirit means that we now have more of Jesus, not less of Him. That is why the Lord said at the end of Matthew’s Gospel that He would be with us until the close of age. These words were not a denial of a future ascension, but a promise of it. The challenge for us now is to live as children of the Ascension, and as children of the Spirit. Our Lord’s presence and power are always available to us. The question is: how often do we avail ourselves of them?
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IF SATAN IS ALIVE, WHY NOT MILLENNIALISM?
« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2020, 04:05:10 PM »

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Orthodox Christians are often asked by Christians of various western traditions why we hold the theological position of amillennialism. Some object, stating that it is obvious that Satan is alive and active now and not confined, and they claim that Justin Martyr, Melito, Hegesippus, Tatian, Irenaeus, Tertullian, Hippolytus and Apollinaris were premillenarians. So, then, why is Chiliasm a heresy?
Firstly, I do not believe there is any clear evidence that St. Hegesippus held premillennialist views. St. Hippolytus actually changed his mind on this question, in favor of rejecting premillennialism. Tatian, Tertullian, and Apollinaris all ended their lives in heresy and schism, and so their views were clearly not mainstream.
St. Justin Martyr, while he did hold to a premillennial view, acknowledged that many in the Church in his time did not. He wrote:
"I admitted to you formerly, that I and many others are of this opinion [that there will be a future millennial reign of Christ], and [believe] that such will take place, as you assuredly are aware; but, on the other hand, I signified to you that many who belong to the pure and pious faith, and are true Christians, think otherwise" (Dialogue with Trypho LXXX).
Prior to the Church issuing a definitive statement on the issue, it was possible for saints, such as St. Justin and St. Ireneaus to hold such views, but at the Second Ecumenical Council, the Church added to the creed the phrase "whose kingdom shall have no end" immediately following the statement that Christ "shall come again with glory to judge both the living and the dead..." This was added to make it clear that there would be no temporary millennial kingdom, but an eternal one, as Scripture itself confirms:
He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David: and he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end (Luke 1:32-33).
His dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed (Daniel 7:14b).
Premillennialism is based on an erroneous interpretation of Revelation 20:1-3, which states:
And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, and cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
The problem with interpreting this as referring to something that will happen after the time of the second coming of Christ is that you then have to believe that for some inscrutable reason, God would turn the devil loose a thousand years later, and that there would still be people in that millennial kingdom capable of being deceived by the Devil and rebelling against Christ, who has come in all His glory, with all the hosts of heaven. You also would have to believe that when Christ returns that the general resurrection would not take place then, but only a thousand years after that, and only then would final judgment take place:
But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished (Revelation 20:5).
And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them. And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever (Revelation 20:7-10).
Such an interpretation does not square with what is stated clearly elsewhere in Scripture, that when Christ returns He will raise the dead and judge everyone:
For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works (Matthew 16:27)
When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory: And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats (Matthew 25:31-32).
For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not precede them which are asleep. For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord (1 Thessalonians 4:15-17).
... when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power (2 Thessalonians 1:7b-9).
See also 1 Corinthians 15.
It makes far more sense to understand the thousand years to be an indefinite time between the first and second comings of Christ. St. Andrew of Caesarea points out that often the number "one thousand" is used to refer to an indefinite number:
"By the number one thousand years by no means is it reasonable to understand so many years. For neither concerning such things of which David said, "the word which he commanded for a thousand generations" [Psalm 104[105]:8] are we able to count out these things as ten times one hundred; rather they are to mean many generations" (Andrew of Caesarea,trans. Eugenia Scarvelis Constantinou, Andrew of Caesarea, Commentary on the Apocalypse, (Washington, D.C.: Catholic University of America Press, 2011) p. 206).
As for the releasing of Satan and the deception of the nations to refer to the coming of the antichrist, and the last days before the second coming. The binding of Satan does not mean that he has no power at all during this period, but that he is restrained until just before the end of this age. This also aligns with what St. Paul said about the coming of the antichrist and the great falling away:
Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God. Do you not remember that when I was still with you I told you these things? And now you know what is restraining, that he may be revealed in his own time. For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only he who now restrains will do so until he is taken out of the way (2 Thessalonians 2:3-7).
St. Andrew of Caesarea says that this binding is what Christ spoke about in which He said that to spoil the house of a strong man, the strong man must first be bound (Ibid, p. 205f, cf. Matthew 12:29Mark 3:27Luke 11:21-22). This statement, in all three of the Synoptic Gospels, is in the context of Christ speaking of the power by which He caste out demons.
Most Christians, including Protestants, claim to believe the Nicene Creed, and the Nicene Creed is unambiguous on this point, and its statement that Christ "Kingdom shall have no end" is taken straight from Scripture. Some early fathers, who did not have the benefit of the instruction of the Second Ecumenical Council, have some excuse for being mistaken on this point; but now we have no such excuse.
The problem with premillennialism is that it tended to feed into other heresies, such as Montanism, which believed that Montanus was the Holy Spirit incarnate, and which believed that the Kingdom of God was soon to come to be established in Phrygia. We have seen similar heresies with millenialist eschatology in more recent times, with the Jehovah's Witnesses, Seventh Day AdventistsMormonism, the Jim Jones Cult, and Branch Davidians. Given the excesses this view has tended to produce, the Church felt it necessary to clearly define the matter.
Fr. John Whiteford
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ON PROPHET ELIJAH AND THE ANTICHRIST The second Forerunner of the
« Reply #8 on: October 17, 2020, 05:03:18 PM »

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An angel in the flesh and the cornerstone of the prophets, / the second forerunner of the coming of Christ…” With these words the Holy Church glorifies the great Old Testament righteous man who lived 900 years before Christ - the glorious holy prophet of God, Elijah. By his unusually strict ascetic life, he appeared more like an angel than a man.
But why does the Holy Church calls him “a second forerunner of the second coming of Christ”?
This is because, just as before the first coming of Christ in the world, St. John the Baptist appeared “in the spirit and power of Elijah” (Lk1:17), so also before the second coming of Christ on earth the Prophet Elijah himself will appear (see. Malachi 4:5). As we know, he did not die but was lifted up to heaven alive, with his flesh, in a chariot of fire (see para. 4 Kings 2, 11).
The beloved disciple of Christ, St. John the Evangelist tells about this in his marvelous Apocalypse. The Holy Prophet Elijah, along with another Old Testament righteous man - Enoch, who was also taken to heaven alive because he “walked with God” (Genesis 5:24), will appear again in the days of the Antichrist. They will prophesy and turn people away from worshiping Antichrist. The Seer of Mysteries calls them both “witnesses of God”, “two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth” (Rev.11:3-11). Both of them—Enoch and Elijah—will prophesy for one thousand two hundred sixty days (or 42 months, or three and a half years), that is, in all the reign of the Antichrist, and will do great signs and miracles to convince people not to recognize or accept the sign of Antichrist on their right hand and forehead (Rev.13:16).
But God’s permission, “the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit”, i.e., the Antichrist himself, “shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.” (Rev.11:7).
It is noteworthy that “they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth” (Rev.11:10).
Why “tormented”?
The people are “tormented” because the prophets will appeal to their conscience. Because they will try to awaken the sleeping conscience - diverting them from worshiping the Antichrist and turning to the true God, to Christ.
It has always been so with the prophets of God. None of them finished their life by a natural death - they were all tortured and killed by the people whom they rebuked for their sinful lives.
The same fate will befall those who do not wish to “keep up with the times”, do not want to take part in the general corruption of morals, and who try to awaken the conscience of others by indicating to them the error or mistake of their chosen the path in life, of their improper approach and conduct.
Such people, who want to keep their conscience pure, the others will hate and seek to destroy in every way - if not physically, then at least mentally.
We do not have the information to assert that the Antichrist has already come, but … only spiritually completely blind people cannot see that what goes mad in the world now is preparing for his speedy arrival and reign. Moreover, his faithful servants work with an extraordinary energy (worthy of a better work). They have already sold him their souls for money and all sorts of earthly goods: For honor, power and domination in human society, for all sorts of carnal pleasure and delight, in order to enjoy them without hindrance or punishment.
From numerous predictions by the ancient Fathers of the Church, we know that the majority of people, of all religions, including our Orthodox faith, and not excepting priests, will enthusiastically accept the Antichrist as their lord and king. They will worship him, and begin to persecute and destroy anyone who opposes the Antichrist.
And while we do not yet see the Antichrist as a particular person, even now a great “sifting” of people is taking place. Some “keep up” with the servants of the coming Antichrist, being bought for money or other earthly goods and recruited into his camp. Others - resolutely avoid, dissociate themselves, and quickly go off away from them, by this arousing the anger and hatred of the former.
Brothers! It has never been such a cunning time, in which people so excel at deception, falsehood, craftiness and lies. It is necessary to be extremely vigilant, especially attentive and cautious in one’s approach to them, in order to not be tempted by enticing words, and not get entangled in the nets of Antichrist. Do not trust anyone who comes to you with any flattering proposals whatsoever, or with lucrative promises, even if it is a person clothed in spiritual garments, if you know that they are close to some dubious or obviously anti-Christian organisations, if they entertain friendship with the enemies of Christ, and especially - if they receive money from them, whatever the plausible excuse.
The time has come now, when more than ever before, you need to carefully distinguish who of the bearers of the high calling of Pastors of the Church of Christ is indeed serving Christ, and who has already sold himself to the servants of the coming Antichrist. By this, instead of serving Christ, they serve the Antichrist. You need to distinguish, in order that you not be found following a wolf - even one dressed in sheep’s clothing—instead of a true Pastor.
Particularly dangerous pastors among such false shepherds are those who preach a need for peace with everyone, under the pretext of “non-condemnation” and “Christian love and forgiveness”. Let us remember that the peace with the Antichrist (as with his servants) is already a betrayal of Christ - and hence enmity against Christ!
For “what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? “(2 Cor.6:14-15).
Even the smallest flirting with the servants of the Antichrist, and pleasing them with however plausible a purpose—is a crime and will not pass in vain. It is by no mistake that the old Russian proverb says: “Tell me who your friends are, and I will tell you who you are!”
In our evil times, what is most necessary for all of us who wish to remain faithful to Christ the Saviour, is ardent zeal. This is what the holy and glorious prophet of God, Elijah was so famous for. Instead of any compromise with the servants of the Antichrist, we should have a complete irreconcilability toward them, even if we are threatened with temporal death. Let us remember that Enoch and Elijah, after being murdered by the Beast-Antichrist, will be revived to life again “after three days and an half the spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them” (Rev.11:11).
After this Christ our Lord Himself will appear, Who will consume the Antichrist with the “spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming” (2 Thes 2:8). Yet after this, time will be shortened, and the end of this world will come, and the Last Judgement will be opened.
Brothers! If you hear of anyone who relates to preaching on the approach of the Antichrist, the Second Coming of Christ, the end of the world and the Last Judgement with mocking, with an ironic smile on his face, or with anger and irritation, then know that you are dealing with a person who, one way or another, has been drawn in by the servants of antichrist, to involvement in preparation for his speedy arrival and reign on earth. Beware of such people, as destroyers of our holy faith and the Church!
On the Day of Judgement, their “secrets” will be revealed, and all of them, along with the Antichrist and his servants, will receive a just recompense in the “lake of fire burning with brimstone” (Rev.19:20). But for the righteous, such as the holy prophet Elijah, and for all those who did not bow, and did not join the service of the Antichrist, but rather honestly and earnestly opposed him, that eternal blessed life in the “New Jerusalem” will begin, which the seer of mysteries was made worthy to see coming down from God from Heaven (Rev. 21:2).
“Whoever has Having the ears hear, let him hear!” Amen.

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Re: Has the End of Time Drawn Near?
« Reply #9 on: October 17, 2020, 05:51:06 PM »
If you believe what Jesus was alleged to have said, end times was probably supposed to happen within the life time of his disciples, including Judas, who, along with the other 11 disciples, was supposed to rule over Israel.

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Re: Has the End of Time Drawn Near?
« Reply #10 on: October 17, 2020, 06:13:48 PM »
If you believe what Jesus was alleged to have said, end times was probably supposed to happen within the life time of his disciples, including Judas, who, along with the other 11 disciples, was supposed to rule over Israel.
Mark Twain once said ''Better to Remain Silent and Be Thought a Fool than to Speak and Remove All Doubt'' In your case you hit reply, typed some more BS and hit post. Different process, same result
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Re: Has the End of Time Drawn Near?
« Reply #11 on: October 17, 2020, 06:31:22 PM »
Watch, be ready, and don't predict.

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Re: Has the End of Time Drawn Near?
« Reply #12 on: October 17, 2020, 06:49:21 PM »
Mark Twain once said ''Better to Remain Silent and Be Thought a Fool than to Speak and Remove All Doubt'' In your case you hit reply, typed some more BS and hit post. Different process, same result
For obvious reasons, I have no interest in diving into a deep theological discussion.  I just replied to the subject line with facts from the Bible.

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« Reply #13 on: October 17, 2020, 06:55:56 PM »
For obvious reasons, I have no interest in diving into a deep theological discussion.  I just replied to the subject line with facts from the Bible.
Thanks for proving my point, once again 
President Harry S. Truman said: “The fundamental basis of this nation’s laws was given to Moses on the Mount.  The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings…  If we don't have the proper fundamental moral background, we will finally wind up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the state.”

 

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