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President Harry S. Truman said: “The fundamental basis of this nation’s laws was given to Moses on the Mount.  The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings…  If we don't have the proper fundamental moral background, we will finally wind up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the state.”

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Dozens of Legally-Owned Firearms Seized Under New State Law
« Reply #86 on: November 17, 2020, 05:42:37 PM »
Nearly 40 Virginians have had their firearms seized — some permanently — after the state instituted a red flag law on July 1, according to a report.

Virginia judges issued 26 temporary and 10 permanent orders in July and August, according to the Richmond Times-Dispatch.

The red flag law allows police to confiscate a person’s legally-owned firearms for a two-week period if the gun owner is deemed a threat.



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President Harry S. Truman said: “The fundamental basis of this nation’s laws was given to Moses on the Mount.  The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings…  If we don't have the proper fundamental moral background, we will finally wind up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the state.”

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Biden’s proposed gun control plan could hit gun owners with $34
« Reply #87 on: November 19, 2020, 02:42:44 PM »
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President Harry S. Truman said: “The fundamental basis of this nation’s laws was given to Moses on the Mount.  The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings…  If we don't have the proper fundamental moral background, we will finally wind up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the state.”

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Biden deputy chief of staff touted 'mandatory buybacks' of assault
« Reply #88 on: November 19, 2020, 05:51:51 PM »
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President-elect Joe Biden’s incoming White House deputy chief of staff once touted "mandatory buybacks" of certain rifles 


Jennifer O’Malley Dillon previously served as Biden’s campaign manager – but before that, she managed Beto O’Rourke's 2020 campaign until he withdrew from the race.

The former Texas congressman declared during a Sept. 2019 primary debate: "Hell yes, we’re going to take your AR-15, your AK-47."


A few weeks later, O’Malley Dillon appeared in a video, posted on O’Rourke’s YouTube channel, touting the campaign's plan for "mandatory" buybacks of certain firearms, in addition to a new ban on assault-style weapons.

"We are actually the only campaign with a plan…that supports mandatory buybacks of weapons of war,” she says in the video. "An assault weapon ban is very, very important, and we need to have it. But that only takes weapons of war off the streets in the future. It does nothing for weapons of war that are currently out there."
She estimated the mandatory buyback would affect "15 or 16 million" guns.

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President Harry S. Truman said: “The fundamental basis of this nation’s laws was given to Moses on the Mount.  The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings…  If we don't have the proper fundamental moral background, we will finally wind up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the state.”

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MAGAZINES: STANDARD CAPACITY V LARGE CAPACITY
« Reply #89 on: November 20, 2020, 05:13:53 PM »
Firearm magazines have been around for centuries in one form or another and there is a lot of odd terminologies used today when referencing them. With that, we are here to clear the air with a little Gun 101. 
IS A CLIP A MAGAZINE? 
 
If you enjoy arguing with folks on social media, on gun ranges, or while at the gun store, puff out your chest and make a stand on the hill of confusing a clip and a magazine. In general, the term "clip" is used today to describe a separate container, typically of light metal, without a spring that holds cartridges in sequence so that they may be loaded or charged into a firearm. 




These 30.06 Springfield cartridges are loaded in M1 Garand en-bloc clips. The Garand takes an 8-cartridge clip to be fully loaded. Once the rifle has fired all eight shots, the clip is ejected by the action. (Photo: Chris Eger/Guns.com)




The terms "clip" and "magazine" were often interchangeable in the past, such as in the 1940-dated U.S. Army FM.23-35 on the M1911 and this 1969 Colt ad, but today, the terms are kept apart under threat of smack talk from modern gun culture adherents. 


A magazine, which holds cartridges under tension from a spring for the firearm until they are fed into the chamber by the action, can be fixed or detachable. For instance, the Winchester Model 70, in its traditional format, uses a fixed magazine. On the other hand, an AR-15 has a detachable box or drum-style magazine. Magazines can also come in various forms including tubular, such as on a traditional Mossberg 500 pump-action shotgun or Marlin Model 60 rimfire rifle; rotary such as those found on a Ruger 10/22; or helical like the Calico series of guns.
And to throw a monkey wrench into this, magazines-- both fixed and detachable-- can be topped off or "charged" by a stripper clip. 




This AR-15 magazine can be quickly loaded by the use of a stripper clip. (Photo: Chris Eger/Guns.com)

STANDARD CAPACITY? 
 
When it comes to magazine capacity, be it on a fixed or detachable type, the size the firearm is designed for and marketed with is typically regarded in the gun industry as the "standard" capacity. For instance, the standard capacity for the Browning Hi-Power, one of the most popular semi-automatic handguns, first patented in 1923, is 13 rounds. 




The BHP, which has been around in for nearly a century and is still production overseas in a host of clones, was designed with a standard 13+1 magazine capacity. This had been boosted in recent years by improved-designed mags that hold 14 or 15 rounds without extending from the bottom of the grip.  (Photo: Chris Eger/Guns.com)

When the AR-15 first hit the market in the early 1960s, it used 20-round detachable magazines although 30-round magazines were soon the standard. The Glock 17, first introduced in the U.S. in 1984, was marketed from the beginning with a 17-round flush-fit magazine. The FN FiveSeven pistol, developed in the early 1990s, has always been marketed with a 20-round magazine. 

The M1911 magazine on the left, standard since 1911, holds seven or eight rounds as designed. The standard magazine for the Glock 19X which ships from the factory, holds 21 rounds. 



Such capacity goes back even further than the 1920s. As we have noted in the past, there were a variety of early repeaters that existed even prior to the Second Amendment's enshrinement in the U.S. Constitution. These included the 16th Century Kalthoff rifles which could hold as many as 30 shots, the famed Puckle Gun of 1718, and the 12-shot Cookson Volitional repeating flintlock of the 1750s.

Going even further back, organ guns (Orgelgeschütz) or salvo guns (Salvengeschütz) were fielded in Germany in the 15th Century allowing a single user to envelope a battlefield in a cloud of black powder smoke in seconds.

LARGE CAPACITY MAGAZINES?

 

So-called "Large Capacity" or "High Capacity" magazines are terms often purposely and wrongly applied by anti-gun groups during conversations on gun politics to mislabel standard capacity magazines. The use of these terms is typically done when attempting to regulate or otherwise ban the production or possession of otherwise ordinary magazines by applying an arbitrary number of rounds they can contain. 

For instance, in 2013, the proposed New York SAFE Act included a 7-shot cap on loaded magazines and a 10-round limit on the magazine itself, meaning that gun owners had to download even 10-round magazines. While a federal judge later blasted the 7-shot arbitrary cap, the 10-round limit remains in the Empire State. However, limits as low as a 5-round cap have been floated in other states.

A 10-round AR magazine vs a 30-round AR magazine. In most parts of 41 states, the one on the right is standard capacity. In the rest of the country, lawful gun owners with local- or state-mandated magazine restrictions have to make do with the mag on the left and can face fines or prison if found with a standard capacity mag.



Today nine states have active capacity-based magazine bans: California (10 rounds), Colorado (15), Connecticut (10), Hawaii (10), Maryland (10), Massachusetts (10), New York (10), New Jersey (10), and Vermont (10 for rifles, 15 rounds for handguns). Further, there are over a dozen cities and counties as well as Washington, DC that have their own local limits. Such limits have been the subject of legal challenges by gun owners and Second Amendment groups almost since their inception, arguing that they are unconstitutional.

Despite the bans, firearm industry trade groups estimate there are upwards of 150 million such magazines-- including 71.2 million pistol magazines capable of holding more than 10 cartridges, and another 79.2 million rifle magazines capable of holding 30 or more rounds-- in ready circulation.
With proper maintenance, such devices can last generations. 

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President Harry S. Truman said: “The fundamental basis of this nation’s laws was given to Moses on the Mount.  The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings…  If we don't have the proper fundamental moral background, we will finally wind up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the state.”

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11 Defensive Uses of Guns That Reveal Ignorance of Biden, Harris on
« Reply #90 on: November 20, 2020, 05:41:42 PM »
 Second Amendment

While votes still are being counted in the presidential election, one thing is perfectly clear—the stakes never have been higher for the Second Amendment.
Neither Democratic nominee Joe Biden nor his running mate, Sen. Kamala Harris of California, believe that the Second Amendment protects an individual right to keep and bear arms. In other words, according to them, the government may restrict law-abiding citizens’ ability to possess any firearm, and for any reason.

This is exactly what Harris argued in an amicus brief she signed onto in the foundational Second Amendment case of District of Columbia v. Heller. The filing with the Supreme Court argued that the Second Amendment does not prevent the government from issuing a complete ban on the possession of operable handguns inside the home.

It is hardly surprising, then, that as a senator Harris co-sponsored numerous bills that would strip law-abiding Americans of commonly owned semiautomatic firearms protected by the Second Amendment. She also recently said that mandatory buybacks—gun confiscation by another namewere a “good idea.”

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Harris is not alone. Just last year, Biden himself told a town hall audience that he wouldn’t have come to the same conclusion as the Supreme Court majority in the Heller case.

Of course, the Supreme Court has affirmed—consistent with the first 150 years of constitutional scholarship on the issue—that the right to keep and bear arms is a fundamental, individual right. Not only is this right fundamental to our scheme of ordered liberty in a theoretical sense, but in a real and concrete way it enables countless Americans to defend their lives, liberty, and property when the government fails to do so.

According to a 2013 report by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, almost every major study on the issue has found that Americans use their firearms in self-defense between 500,000 and 3 million times a year. There’s good reason to believe that most of these defensive gun uses never are reported to police, much less make the local or national news. 

For this reason, The Daily Signal each month publishes an article highlighting some of the previous month’s many news stories on defensive gun use that you may have missed—or that might not have made it to the national spotlight in the first place. (Read accounts from 2019 and so far in 2020 here.) 

The examples below represent only a small portion of the news stories on defensive gun use that we found in October. You may explore more examples by using The Heritage Foundation’s interactive Defensive Gun Use Database.

  • Oct. 4, Miami, Florida: Armed robbers stormed into a woman’s home during an NBA Finals watch party, holding her family and friends—including her 7-year-old son—at gunpoint while demanding valuables. The woman, who was in the bathroom at the time, heard the commotion and retrieved her handgun from a bedroom nightstand. She confronted the robbers, and the family’s home surveillance system captured the ensuing shootout. Fortunately, the armed resistance prompted the robbers to flee before they could harm anyone.

  • Oct. 7, Mount Hermon, Louisiana: Following an argument with his neighbor, an irate man grabbed his handgun, went to his neighbor’s house, and opened fire. The neighbor also was armed and returned fire in self-defense, possibly saving his own life. Police arrested his assailant on charges of second-degree attempted murder.

  • Oct. 9, Hamtramck, Michigan: A would-be robber entered a jewelry store and stabbed the owner in the head. Despite serious injuries, the storeowner managed to shoot the robber four times in self-defense, foiling the robbery. Both were expected to recover, and the robber was in custody with criminal charges pending.

  • Oct. 12, Memphis, Tennessee: Two men posing as bounty hunters were caught on a doorbell camera attempting to kick down the door of an apartment. The person inside fired in self-defense, preventing them from illegally entering. Local authorities were investigating.

  • Oct. 14, Melbourne, Florida: A homeowner became alarmed when he saw two armed men step from a vehicle parked suspiciously in front of his house. When the men began walking toward the front door, the homeowner retrieved his firearm, fearing that he might have to defend himself and his property. As the two men approached in a menacing manner, he fired several warning shots into the ground, sending the men running back to their vehicle.

  • Oct. 17, Marion, Maryland: A husband broke into his estranged wife’s home and fatally shot her before attacking another man who was living there. Despite his injuries, the man managed to grab his firearm and shoot his assailant in self-defense, preserving his own life. Police arrested the estranged husband, who faced charges, including first-degree murder, assault, and home invasion.

  • Oct. 18, Youngstown, Ohio: A designated driver for a man and a woman witnessed a physical altercation between the two in which the man eventually produced a knife to attack the woman. The driver confronted the man, but the assailant overpowered him and held the knife to his throat. At this point, the woman drew her firearm, causing the man to drop the knife and run.

  • Oct. 20, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania: A victim services advocate in Philadelphia was walking home when an armed robber accosted him. He drew his firearm and fatally shot his attacker in the chest in self-defense.

  • Oct. 23, Lee County, Alabama: A man got into an argument at a small gathering at someone’s home, left, and returned with a gun. When he opened fire on those still there, several armed individuals returned fire, killing him before anyone else was harmed.

  • Oct. 27, Camp Verde, Arizona: An adult man and a teenager approached a driver who was pumping gas and started a verbal altercation. The teen pulled out a gun and fired at the driver. Although wounded, he drew his own firearm and shot the teen. After both assailants fled, police found and arrested the wounded teen.

  • Oct. 30, Memphis, Tennessee:  A man was doing construction work on a residence when he noticed two thieves, both armed, stealing an air compressor from the porch. The man confronted the two as they tried to put it in their car. One thief pulled a gun and fired at the man, who told police that he dropped to the ground and returned fire, sending the two fleeing.

These examples of defensive gun use last month help demonstrate just how badly the Biden-Harris team misses the mark when it comes to the Second Amendment.

The right to keep and bear arms often becomes a matter of life and death for law-abiding Americans.

We are rendered less safe—and our rights less secure—when politicians make it harder for us to acquire and possess the firearms with which we can most capably defend our rights and liberties.

Unlike Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, the rest of us don’t get full-time armed security teams courtesy of American taxpayers. Many times, we don’t even have the benefit of police who arrive in time to protect us.
We only have ourselves, and our right to keep and bear arms.



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President Harry S. Truman said: “The fundamental basis of this nation’s laws was given to Moses on the Mount.  The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings…  If we don't have the proper fundamental moral background, we will finally wind up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the state.”

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Re: Gun Issues
« Reply #91 on: November 21, 2020, 02:41:49 PM »
President Harry S. Truman said: “The fundamental basis of this nation’s laws was given to Moses on the Mount.  The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings…  If we don't have the proper fundamental moral background, we will finally wind up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the state.”

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Re: Gun Issues
« Reply #92 on: November 21, 2020, 02:42:50 PM »
President Harry S. Truman said: “The fundamental basis of this nation’s laws was given to Moses on the Mount.  The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings…  If we don't have the proper fundamental moral background, we will finally wind up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the state.”

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NSSF RELEASES MOST RECENT FIREARM PRODUCTION FIGURES
« Reply #93 on: November 22, 2020, 04:48:24 PM »
NEWTOWN, Conn. — NSSF®, the firearm industry’s trade association, released the 2020 edition of its Firearm Production Report to members. The report compiles the most up to date information based on data sourced from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives’ (ATF’s) Annual Firearms Manufacturing and Export Reports (AFMER) as well as the U.S. International Trade Commission (ITC). Key findings for public release showed:
  • In 2018, 11.4 million total firearms were produced or imported in the United States (less exported firearms).
  • Approximately one-half (48%) of all rifles produced and imported (less exports) in 2018 were Modern Sporting Rifles.
  • Since 1990, there are an estimated 19.8 million Modern Sporting Rifles (MSRs) in circulation today.
  • An interim 2019 estimate showed a total of 6 million total firearms were produced in the United States. Of those, 3.6 million were pistols and revolvers, 2 million were rifles and 480,000 were shotguns. Those are interim figures that will be updated when complete reports become available from the ATF.
  • In 2019, there were approximately 3.3 million firearms imported into the United States which included 2.3 million pistols and revolvers, 301,000 rifles and 678,000 shotguns.
  • From 1991 to 2019, nearly 214 million firearms have been made available to the U.S. market.
  • According to reports such as: ATF Firearms Commerce in the United States, ATF AFMER and Congressional Research Service data, there are an estimated 434 million firearms in civilian possession in the United States.
  • There are approximately 71.2 million pistol magazines capable of holding more than 10 rounds, and 79.2 million rifle magazines capable of holding 30 or more rounds in circulation.
  • Firearm and ammunition manufacturing accounted for nearly 12,000 employees producing over $3.9 billion in goods shipped in 2018. An estimated 8.7 billion rounds of all calibers and gauges were produced in 2018 for the U.S. market.
 
“These figures, combined with the record-breaking 17.2 million NSSF-adjusted background checks for the sale or transfer of a firearm in the first ten months of 2020, demonstrates that Americans have a strong desire to continue purchasing firearms for lawful purposes,” said Joe Bartozzi, NSSF’s President and CEO. “The Modern Sporting Rifle continues to be the most popular rifle sold in America today, and with nearly 20 million in circulation, is clearly a commonly-owned firearm that is being used for lawful purposes every day in America. The continued popularity of handguns demonstrates a strong interest by Americans to protect themselves, their family and homes, as well as to participate in the recreational shooting sports.”
Today’s report also shows that as lawful firearm ownership in America continues to grow, criminal and unintentional misuse of firearms is falling. During the 28-year period covered by this report (1991–2018) the violent crime rate has decreased by 51.3 percent and unintentional firearm-related fatalities have declined by 68.2 percent.




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President Harry S. Truman said: “The fundamental basis of this nation’s laws was given to Moses on the Mount.  The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings…  If we don't have the proper fundamental moral background, we will finally wind up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the state.”

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Gun Industry Knows Being ‘Listed’ Isn’t Healing or Unifying
« Reply #94 on: November 22, 2020, 04:49:54 PM »
Forgive the firearm industry if we seem jaded. We’re just not buying the calls for unity and healing. Not when our industry has been called “the enemy” and not when far-left firebrands are calling to create “lists” of Americans who dare to disagree.

It’s like Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) is the Grinch Who Stole Freedom. She’s making a list and checking it twice. She's going to tell America if you didn’t vote nice.

Forgive us. We’re not buying it. The firearm industry, and gun owners in general, are leery of being put on “enemies” lists. Or terror watch lists. Or gun registries. We know these things are ripe for abuse for radical ideas like rehabilitation, re-education, indoctrination, or confiscation.

It’s un-American. Period. It’s also telling that while Joe Biden is calling for the keys to the White House and telling Americans he’ll heal and unite the nation, he’s not disavowing the overt threat by a member of Congress that those who disagree with a radical agenda will be listed. He’s also not walked back his accusation in 2019 that the firearm industry is “the enemy,” and his threat to come after us.



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Re: Gun Issues
« Reply #95 on: November 22, 2020, 05:19:51 PM »
I'm curious if any of the pro-2nd amendment folks support denying gun rights to felons who are no longer in jail/prison. 

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Re: Gun Issues
« Reply #96 on: November 22, 2020, 05:27:17 PM »
Luckily I got rid of all my guns whe HoBama told me to.

Got me one of them Double Barrels just like Joe said.

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Re: Gun Issues
« Reply #97 on: November 22, 2020, 05:46:50 PM »
Luckily I got rid of all my guns whe HoBama told me to.

Got me one of them Double Barrels just like Joe said.
this is what I want, on each corner of the house



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President Harry S. Truman said: “The fundamental basis of this nation’s laws was given to Moses on the Mount.  The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings…  If we don't have the proper fundamental moral background, we will finally wind up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the state.”

 

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