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DunkingDan

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Three dozen orders issued with Virginia’s new “red flag” gun law
« Reply #112 on: November 27, 2020, 04:41:36 PM »
At least three dozen Virginia residents have been prohibited temporarily or permanently from having firearms or purchasing them based on a new state law letting courts decide they would be a danger to themselves or others.
The “red flag” law creating the petition for substantial risk orders began July 1.
The Richmond Times-Dispatch cited the Virginia State Police in reporting 26 temporary and 10 permanent orders were issued in July and August.
The Democratic-controlled General Assembly passed another gun-related restriction this year. Republicans voted against it.
Gun rights groups argue the law violates the Second Amendment.


President Harry S. Truman said: “The fundamental basis of this nation’s laws was given to Moses on the Mount.  The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings…  If we don't have the proper fundamental moral background, we will finally wind up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the state.”

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Re: Gun Issues
« Reply #113 on: November 28, 2020, 04:29:44 PM »
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President Harry S. Truman said: “The fundamental basis of this nation’s laws was given to Moses on the Mount.  The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings…  If we don't have the proper fundamental moral background, we will finally wind up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the state.”

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Re: Three dozen orders issued with Virginia’s new “red flag” gun law
« Reply #114 on: November 28, 2020, 05:25:24 PM »
At least three dozen Virginia residents have been prohibited temporarily or permanently from having firearms or purchasing them based on a new state law letting courts decide they would be a danger to themselves or others.
The “red flag” law creating the petition for substantial risk orders began July 1.
The Richmond Times-Dispatch cited the Virginia State Police in reporting 26 temporary and 10 permanent orders were issued in July and August.
The Democratic-controlled General Assembly passed another gun-related restriction this year. Republicans voted against it.
Gun rights groups argue the law violates the Second Amendment.
Because they do.

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Re: Gun Issues
« Reply #115 on: November 28, 2020, 05:34:28 PM »
Are any limits on gun ownership Constitutional?

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Re: Gun Issues
« Reply #116 on: November 28, 2020, 05:41:15 PM »
Ahhh, how cute the twin brothers of different mothers OCD, oops I mean CIncy and Bitch, oops I mean P1tch, oops I mean Zen are doing their thing in another thread. How cute


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President Harry S. Truman said: “The fundamental basis of this nation’s laws was given to Moses on the Mount.  The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings…  If we don't have the proper fundamental moral background, we will finally wind up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the state.”

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Re: Gun Issues
« Reply #117 on: November 28, 2020, 05:51:29 PM »
It is discussion, an exchange of ideas and opinions, asking questions to understand the view of another.

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Re: Gun Issues
« Reply #118 on: November 28, 2020, 05:57:06 PM »
Ah poor baby is trying to tell us how to post once again. 

Next up mean man may threaten to ban me again ,even though if may be veiled, like you have done to so many others or are you going to try and run me off as you have others?

OH my, which will it be or will he give us another one of his full of it self serving bloviating posts?

I am shaking in my boots.....Shaking I tell you. 

Tic Toc Tic Toc.......



President Harry S. Truman said: “The fundamental basis of this nation’s laws was given to Moses on the Mount.  The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings…  If we don't have the proper fundamental moral background, we will finally wind up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the state.”

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Re: Gun Issues
« Reply #119 on: November 28, 2020, 06:44:39 PM »
Are any limits on gun ownership Constitutional?
of course.  no right is absolute. However, one of the few examples I can think of is when somebody is actually incarcerated.
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Re: Gun Issues
« Reply #120 on: November 28, 2020, 06:48:32 PM »






President Harry S. Truman said: “The fundamental basis of this nation’s laws was given to Moses on the Mount.  The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings…  If we don't have the proper fundamental moral background, we will finally wind up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the state.”

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Re: Gun Issues
« Reply #121 on: November 28, 2020, 10:19:29 PM »
President Harry S. Truman said: “The fundamental basis of this nation’s laws was given to Moses on the Mount.  The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings…  If we don't have the proper fundamental moral background, we will finally wind up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the state.”

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Respect For The Second Amendment Should Not Be Partisan
« Reply #122 on: November 29, 2020, 06:26:13 PM »
Before the U.S. Supreme Court recognized that the Second Amendment protects an individual right to keep and bear arms in District of Columbia v. Heller, a February 2008 Gallup poll found that 73 percent of Americans possessed this understanding of the Constitution while a mere 20 percent had the incorrect collective-right interpretation. This wide-ranging respect for the Second Amendment holds. According to a November 2019 Rasmussen poll, a mere 24 percent support repealing the Second Amendment.
With a broad bipartisan majority in favor of preserving the Second Amendment, support for the right to keep and bear arms need not break down along party lines. However, the leaders and donor class of the national Democratic Party are intent on making it that way.
Consider the Draft 2020 Democratic Party Platform. The document contains a gun-control plank that is replete with many of the worst gun controls put forward by the party’s most anti-gun politicians. 
The platform declares that the party will criminalize the private transfer of firearms by requiring every firearm transaction to take place pursuant to a government background check. The platform expresses support for the elimination of the National Instant Criminal Background Check System’s three-day safety-valve provision, which permits a firearm transfer to proceed three days after a NICS check has been initiated if the FBI has not determined the transferee to be prohibited from possessing firearms. This vital provision ensures that the federal government cannot delay lawful gun transfers indefinitely and ensures that firearms transfers can take place even if the NICS system is overwhelmed. Further, the platform calls for gun owner licensing.
Taken together, these measures would undo the Second Amendment right by turning it into a privilege bestowed by government—something on which no one attempting to exercise a Constitutional right should be forced to rely.
Then there are the even more flagrant violations. Chief among these is a ban on the manufacture and sale of commonly-owned semi-automatic firearms and their magazines. In Heller, the Court made clear that the Second Amendment protects ownership of firearms “in common use at the time” for “lawful purposes like self-defense.” The principal target of such bans is the AR-15. As the AR-15 is the most popular rifle in America and owned almost entirely by law-abiding Americans, it is indisputably “in common use” for “lawful purposes.” Heller author Justice Antonin Scalia and Justice Clarence Thomas reiterated as much in a 2015 dissent from denial of certiorari in the case Friedman v. Highland Park.
While the 2020 Democratic Party draft platform is even more hostile to the Second Amendment than in 2016, this wasn’t always the case. Absent is any recognition of the Second Amendment, a conspicuous omission given the language in previous iterations.
2012: We recognize that the individual right to bear arms is an important part of the American tradition, and we will preserve Americans’ Second Amendment right to own and use firearms.
2008: We recognize that the right to bear arms is an important part of the American tradition,
and we will preserve Americans’ Second Amendment right to own and use firearms.

Lip service, perhaps, but there have also been practical changes in the party’s conduct. As Second Amendment attorney and scholar David Kopel pointed out in 2010, 81 House Democrats and 19 Senate Democrats signed onto an amicus brief filed in the U.S. Supreme Court case McDonald v. Chicago supporting incorporation of the individual-rights interpretation of the Second Amendment to the states.
The national Democratic Party’s relatively recent near-uniform contempt for the Second Amendment coincided with billionaire Michael Bloomberg’s decision to employ his almost unlimited wealth in service of dismantling gun rights. After pledging $50 million to confront the NRA in 2013, the former New York City mayor has spent untold millions in federal and state elections to shift the Democratic Party to a radical anti-gun position.
Nevertheless, there is a limit to what money can buy. This year Bloomberg attempted to purchase the Democratic Party outright, seeking its nomination for president. According to ABC News, the would-be oligarch spent more than $1 billion on the venture, only to win American Samoa’s primary. Talk about a bad investment.
In the end, votes are what count. While the current national Democratic Party is being driven by its anti-gun donor class, the party’s servitude need not last forever. Support for the Second Amendment has been, and should be, bipartisan. The way to make this clear to the national Democratic Party and Michael Bloomberg is through the ballot box.


President Harry S. Truman said: “The fundamental basis of this nation’s laws was given to Moses on the Mount.  The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings…  If we don't have the proper fundamental moral background, we will finally wind up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the state.”

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The Truth About The Distinction Between Military and Civilian Firearms
« Reply #123 on: December 01, 2020, 03:32:16 PM »
It’s a common trope of American political discourse: a politician will emphatically declare his respect for the Second Amendment. He will deny that he’s “coming for your guns.” After all, he knows that gun-grabbing is unpalatable to many Americans.
But, in his very next breath, he’ll backpedal a bit — surely, civilians don’t need and ought not possess “military” firearms, those notorious “weapons of war.” And…well, yes, he will come for those guns.
Clearly, the politician believes that there is a real, categorical distinction between military and civilian firearms. Many American voters do, too. Moreover, they think this distinction somehow matters.

There are two problems with that perspective.




First, in all of American history, there has never been any substantial distinction between military and civilian firearms. Rather, there has always been tremendous overlap of guns used by the military and guns used by civilians.

Civilian weapons are routinely adopted by the military and vice-versa. Firearm features and characteristics are neither intrinsically “military” nor “civilian.” Consider the iconic photograph of Malcolm X with his M1 carbine — is that a military firearm or a civilian firearm? Obviously, it’s both, and many of the same characteristics that made the carbine militarily useful also made it useful to civilians.

Second, of course an artificial distinction can be constructed by legislatively defining certain weapons or particular features/characteristics as “military.” That’s what “assault weapons” bans and similar laws attempt to do.
But such a constructed distinction ought not matter anyway: American civilians have a right to own military arms. Existing and proposed laws to the contrary are blatantly unconstitutional — the Second Amendment isn’t about duck hunting or target shooting.
Please keep both points in mind whenever you hear a politician speak of this distinction as if it’s real or somehow meaningful. At best, it’s ignorant. At worst, it’s deliberate obfuscation or deception for the sake of political gain.




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President Harry S. Truman said: “The fundamental basis of this nation’s laws was given to Moses on the Mount.  The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings…  If we don't have the proper fundamental moral background, we will finally wind up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the state.”

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17 STATES TELL FEDERAL COURT THEY SUPPORT MAG BAN
« Reply #124 on: December 01, 2020, 03:53:29 PM »
Attorneys General from Washington D.C. and 17 states have signed on to support California's endangered "no excuses" ban on standard capacity magazines capable of holding 10 or more rounds. 
The arbitrary ban in the Golden State was torpedoed last month by a three-judge panel of the U.S. 9th Circuit whose majority sided with pro-gun plaintiffs rather than the California Department of Justice, ruling the prohibition unconstitutional. While California Attorney General Xavier Becerra has filed further appeals in an effort to keep the ban afloat, like-minded anti-gun AGs from around the country are showing up to help bail legal water. 
"The Constitution allows states to implement reasonable gun safety laws to keep their residents safe," said Washington D.C. Attorney General Karl Racine, who is leading the effort. 'Restricting large-capacity magazines is a common-sense reform that California, the District of Columbia, and other states have adopted to reduce the number of injuries and deaths resulting from the gun violence that plagues our nation. Our coalition of state Attorneys General will continue to defend the right of states to make public safety decisions that protect our residents."
The friend-of-the-court brief filed by Racine in support of the ban was joined by AGs from Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Vermont, Virginia, and Washington. For those following along at home, only eight of those 17 states have enacted their own bans on the sale or ownership of "large-capacity" magazines. 
The 20-page amicus brief from Racine and his group of largely blue state AGs points out that five other circuits have taken up challenges to magazine prohibitions and concluded that the concept was lawful. Should the latest 9th Circuit ruling withstand Becerra's current attempt at rehearing by the Circuit-- which is increasingly staffed with judges nominated to the bench by President Trump-- the resulting split could easily set the stage for the Supreme Court to weigh in on the matter, which would have nationwide repercussions. 
It is estimated that no less than 115 million magazines capable of holding more than 10 cartridges are in circulation in the U.S., with that figure climbing every day. 

17 States Tell Federal Court They Support Mag Ban :: Guns.com

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JUSTICE BARRETT’S VOTE ALREADY LOOKING TO BE DECISIVE IN FIRST BIG
« Reply #125 on: December 01, 2020, 04:11:57 PM »
GUN RIGHTS CASE IN YEARS


Supreme Court Justice Amy Coney Barrett could deliver a decisive vote in a case regarding gun ownership for non-violent felons if the case makes its way to the high court for review.
The Third Circuit Court of Appeals upheld a longstanding precedent on Nov. 24 that convicted felons are not permitted to possess firearms after Lisa M. Folajtar asked the court to decide whether Congress can prohibit individuals like herself who are convicted of tax fraud from legally owning a gun.
The appeals court ruled that they could find “no reason to deviate from this long standing prohibition in the context of tax fraud” and rejected her claim.

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President Harry S. Truman said: “The fundamental basis of this nation’s laws was given to Moses on the Mount.  The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings…  If we don't have the proper fundamental moral background, we will finally wind up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the state.”

 

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