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TREX

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Re: Good thing the Senate decided to delay confirmation vote...
« Reply #28 on: October 01, 2018, 12:02:20 PM »
So Fuzzy by your way of thinking an accusation is all the proof we need.


So all the things I and others have said about you is true unless you can prove your not guilty of what we accused you of.
The problem is there is little you can accuse Fuzzy of that he wouldn't be proud of.

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« Reply #29 on: October 01, 2018, 12:26:46 PM »
So Fuzzy by your way of thinking an accusation is all the proof we need.

Absolutely not.  That's why you have a hearing to determine the credibility of the accusation.  We heard from the accuser and the accused.  

If you've been reading any of my posts for the past few days, then you know Kavanaugh lied repeatedly throughout his testimony, which should disqualify him from the Supreme Court at the very least.  

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« Reply #30 on: October 01, 2018, 12:31:51 PM »
It's obvious someone has never done any in depth job interviews.
President Harry S. Truman said: “The fundamental basis of this nation’s laws was given to Moses on the Mount.  The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings…  If we don't have the proper fundamental moral background, we will finally wind up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the state.”

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Re: Good thing the Senate decided to delay confirmation vote...
« Reply #31 on: October 01, 2018, 12:36:54 PM »
That little Hawaiian snatch is a piece of work.
In another day she would have been in a mental institute for being so crazy

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Re: Good thing the Senate decided to delay confirmation vote...
« Reply #32 on: October 01, 2018, 12:56:18 PM »
Fuzz, why is Ford's story so credible and Kavanaugh's rebuttal is not credible.

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« Reply #33 on: October 01, 2018, 01:58:50 PM »
Fuzz, why is Ford's story so credible and Kavanaugh's rebuttal is not credible.
Did you watch her testimony?  Even Trump called her "credible."  
She has an accomplished career in higher education and has no reason to turn her life upside down and make half the country hate her and start requiring personal security.  She's not doing this to keep a conservative off the court - that's not going to happen.  Nor is she doing it to make money - that's just a desperate, disingenuous accusation.  She included several things in her story that she never would have if she were lying.  Why in the world would she say there was someone else in the room?  Particularly someone else who was sure to dispute her story?  She admitted there were many details she couldn't remember which some have said points to her lack of credibility.  It doesn't.  It just means she's being honest - it was 35 years ago.  I can't imagine someone like her sitting there and lying about all this - watch her testimony objectively and you can plainly see she's not that kind of person.  She's passed a polygraph, which is rightly inadmissible, but should be noted.  
Children often cry as a defense mechanism when they're guilty and trying to get out of taking responsibility for something.  Kavanaugh repeatedly lied during his testimony about multiple things as I have proven here.  That's not my opinion - that's a fact.  He repeatedly lied about the statements from the people Ford said were in the house, and he lied about the meanings of his yearbook entries, and he lied about the extent of his alcohol use.  Some have tried to say Ford lied, and their laughably weak substantiation is that she said she didn't like to fly, but did anyway.  You guys need to face reality here.  Pick a better man or woman - surely there's some conservative out there, somewhere, who wont address the nation in an entitled rage, spewing hatred for the half the country and lying through his teeth.  
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Re: Good thing the Senate decided to delay confirmation vote...
« Reply #34 on: October 01, 2018, 02:09:01 PM »
Rachel Mitchell, the prosecutor who questioned Christine Blasey Ford last week during a hearing in front of the Senate Judiciary Committee, wrote a five-page memo that was released on Sunday that outlines why she would not bring criminal charges against Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh.
Mitchell's memo notes nine significant problems with Ford's testimony and underscores that her case is "even weaker" than a "he said, she said" case.

"A 'he said, she said' case is incredibly difficult to prove," Mitchell states. "But this case is even weaker than that. Dr. Ford identified other witnesses to the event, and those witnesses either refuted her allegations or failed to corroborate them. For the reasons discussed below, I do not think that a reasonable prosecutor would bring this case based on the evidence before the Committee. Nor do I believe that this evidence is sufficient to satisfy the preponderance-of-the-evidence standard."
ere are the nine problems outlined in Mitchell's memo:
1. Dr. Ford has not offered a consistent account of when the alleged assault happened:

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  • In a July 6 text to the Washington Post, she said it happened in the “mid 1980s.”
  • In her July 30 letter to Senator Feinstein, she said it happened in the “early 80s.”
  • Her August 7 statement to the polygrapher said that it happened one “high school summer in early 80’s,” but she crossed out the word “early” for reasons she did not explain.
  • A September 16 Washington Post article reported that Dr. Ford said it happened in the “summer of 1982.”
  • Similarly, the September 16 article reported that notes from an individual therapy session in 2013 show her describing the assault as occurring in her “late teens.” But she told the Post and the Committee that she was 15 when the assault allegedly occurred. She has not turned over her therapy records for the Committee to review.
  • While it is common for victims to be uncertain about dates, Dr. Ford failed to explain how she was suddenly able to narrow the timeframe to a particular season and particular year

2. Dr. Ford has struggled to identify Judge Kavanaugh as the assailant by name:
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  • No name was given in her 2012 marriage therapy notes.
  • No name was given in her 2013 individual therapy notes.
  • Dr. Ford’s husband claims to recall that she identified Judge Kavanaugh by name in 2012. At that point, Judge Kavanaugh’s name was widely reported in the press as a potential Supreme Court nominee if Governor Romney won the presidential election.
  • In any event, it took Dr. Ford over thirty years to name her assailant. Delayed disclosure of abuse is common so this is not dispositive.

3. When speaking with her husband, Dr. Ford changed her description of the incident to become less specific:
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  • Dr. Ford testified that she told her husband about a “sexual assault” before they were married.
  • But she told the Washington Post that she informed her husband that she was the victim of “physical abuse” at the beginning of their marriage.
  • She testified that, both times, she was referring to the same incident.


4. Dr. Ford has no memory of key details of the night in question—details that could help corroborate her account:

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https://www.dailywire.com/news/36519/prosecutor-questioned-ford-shreds-her-case-5-page-ryan-saavedra?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_content=062316-news&utm_campaign=dwbrand
President Harry S. Truman said: “The fundamental basis of this nation’s laws was given to Moses on the Mount.  The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings…  If we don't have the proper fundamental moral background, we will finally wind up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the state.”

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Re: Good thing the Senate decided to delay confirmation vote...
« Reply #35 on: October 01, 2018, 02:16:27 PM »

Did you watch her testimony?  Even Trump called her "credible."  
She has an accomplished career (teachers teach because they can't DO, and anyone even remotely familiar with teachers/professors know they have the largest ego's in existence no doubt countering or in attempt to counter the fact they can't DO)in higher education and has no reason to turn her life upside ( just a thought, but let us return to this statement in six months to a year and compare net worth prior and post, will you eat your words then?... remember, this forum doesn't keep limited posts but will keep ALL of them as long as I want them kept)down and make half the country hate her and start requiring personal security. (armed guards i speculate?)  She's not doing this to keep a conservative off the court - (possibly true- she's doing it for the attention and the $$$, but the left? that is their precise goal, so... no strike through, but still deducting points) that's not going to happen.  Nor is she doing it to make money (she already is)- that's just a desperate, disingenuous accusation.  She included several things in her story that she never would have if she were lying.(bull shit) Why in the world would she say there was someone else in the room? (attempted credibility and luring dumbasses like you to believe- though i think you know it's a lie but are sticking to the party line disregarding integrity, honor, and truth)  Particularly someone else who was sure to dispute her story?  She admitted there were many details she couldn't remember which some have said points to her lack of credibility. It doesn't. (there is a line to avoid crossing else she purges herself- are you really this dumb?)  It just means she's being honest - it was 35 years ago.  I can't imagine someone like her sitting there and lying about all this - watch her testimony objectively and you can plainly see she's not that kind of person.  She's passed a polygraph, which is rightly inadmissible, but should be noted.  
Children often cry as a defense mechanism when they're guilty and trying to get out of taking responsibility for something.  Kavanaugh repeatedly lied during his testimony about multiple things as I have proven here. (proven? you value yourself far more than anyone values you) That's not my opinion - that's a fact. He repeatedly lied about the statements from the people Ford said were in the house, and he lied about the meanings of his yearbook entries, and he lied about the extent of his alcohol use.  Some have tried to say Ford lied, and their laughably weak substantiation is that she said she didn't like to fly, but did anyway.  You guys need to face reality here.  Pick a better man or woman - surely there's some conservative out there, somewhere, who wont address the nation in an entitled rage spewing hatred for the half the country and lying through his teeth.  all straight party line bull spit and attempt to say it enough times it will either be entertained by those questioning it, or selected as absolute by those wanting to believe....
and overall assessment of your work here demonstrates much to be desired in terms of altering the position of opposition, connectivity with reality, and overall 'grading' of happenstance.  you should not seek position in anything requiring integrity or accurate accountability.
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« Reply #36 on: October 01, 2018, 02:31:35 PM »
Did you watch her testimony?  Even Trump called her "credible."  
She has an accomplished career in higher education and has no reason to turn her life upside down and make half the country hate her and start requiring personal security.  She's not doing this to keep a conservative off the court - that's not going to happen.  Nor is she doing it to make money - that's just a desperate, disingenuous accusation.  She included several things in her story that she never would have if she were lying.  Why in the world would she say there was someone else in the room?  Particularly someone else who was sure to dispute her story?  She admitted there were many details she couldn't remember which some have said points to her lack of credibility.  It doesn't.  It just means she's being honest - it was 35 years ago.  I can't imagine someone like her sitting there and lying about all this - watch her testimony objectively and you can plainly see she's not that kind of person.  She's passed a polygraph, which is rightly inadmissible, but should be noted.  
Children often cry as a defense mechanism when they're guilty and trying to get out of taking responsibility for something.  Kavanaugh repeatedly lied during his testimony about multiple things as I have proven here.  That's not my opinion - that's a fact.  He repeatedly lied about the statements from the people Ford said were in the house, and he lied about the meanings of his yearbook entries, and he lied about the extent of his alcohol use.  Some have tried to say Ford lied, and their laughably weak substantiation is that she said she didn't like to fly, but did anyway.  You guys need to face reality here.  Pick a better man or woman - surely there's some conservative out there, somewhere, who wont address the nation in an entitled rage spewing hatred for the half the country and lying through his teeth.  
Yep, I watched both testimonies. She has many holes in her story. This supposedly happened 36 years ago, she was drunk, her 4 witnesses didn't come through for her (they don't know Kavanaugh and deny her story as fact), she doesn't know the exact year, time of the year, which house it supposedly happened, whose house it was, she was extremely promiscuous in high school and college, she is linked to some fairly powerful folks that hate Trump, etc.... And she now has over $700,000 waiting for her afterwards to help ease her discomfort.
No one is discounting that she may have been sexually assaulted in her youth but it wasn't by Kavanaugh. If she really knew Kavanaugh back then as she claims, she would've remembered it was him as the assailant and wouldn't be so scatter brained about details.
Here are the facts. Ford accuses Kavanaugh of sexual assault 36 years ago. There are no witnesses or physical evidence. Kavanaugh denies it happened as does Ford's witnesses that she named. Without credible witnesses or physical evidence this entire charade is a waste of tax payers time and money which the Democrats are more than happy to waste just to try and keep Kavanaugh out of the Supreme Court.
That's what this entire charade is about. Keeping Trump's appointee out of the Supreme Court until November when the Dems hope to win the Senate back as payback for Republicans preventing Garland from taking Scalia's seat during a presidential election year which the Democrats set precedent for years ago which is far different that trying to pull the same stunt during an off election year where the sitting president will have 2 years left after this November.
I don't remember the Republicans pulling this crap when Obama selected two (2) Anti-America lunatics to sit on the Supreme Court even though the Republicans had the House and Senate during at least one of the confirmations. Simply put, the Left is plum full of a bunch of sore loser pieces of shit for constantly playing politics in order to maintain some sort of power so that they may continue down their path to destroy this nation. It's sickening to me and I hope it shows in November when the Democrats are pushed back into the closet where they belong.

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« Reply #37 on: October 01, 2018, 04:38:29 PM »



Yep, I watched both testimonies. She has many holes in her story. This supposedly happened 36 years ago, she was drunk

You didn't get through 2 sentences with out stating an outright falsehood.  She was not drunk, according to her testimony, that no one has contradicted (except irresponsible rightwing rumor-mongers), she had one beer.  Believable for a 15 year old girl.  If she wanted to lie, she would have said 0.    

her 4 witnesses didn't come through for her (they don't know Kavanaugh and deny her story as fact)

That's another outright, inarguable falsehood.  Keyser did not deny her story as fact.  IN FACT, she said she believes it.  

she doesn't know the exact year, time of the year

She knows it was the Summer of '82.  So are you just a complete imbecile or do you just live a fantasy world?

which house it supposedly happened, whose house it was

Of course not - she was 15 and it was 35 years ago.  You don't have a reasonable bone in your body do you?  You couldn't care less about the truth.

she was extremely promiscuous in high school and college

What?  I'm not wasting any more time with your DEPLORABLE bs.  


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« Reply #38 on: October 01, 2018, 04:40:01 PM »
President Harry S. Truman said: “The fundamental basis of this nation’s laws was given to Moses on the Mount.  The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings…  If we don't have the proper fundamental moral background, we will finally wind up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the state.”

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Re: Good thing the Senate decided to delay confirmation vote...
« Reply #39 on: October 01, 2018, 04:50:58 PM »
>> she was extremely promiscuous in high school and college

Fuzz > What?  I'm not wasting any more time with your DEPLORABLE bs.  


Ha, anybody catch that double standard?  This whole farce is revolving around Kavanaugh's "high school" years, yet when a poster says anything about Ford's HS behavior - it's deplorable for Fuzz.

Brilliant Fuzz!  Now you see how ridiculous this is for the rest of us.

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« Reply #40 on: October 01, 2018, 05:05:39 PM »
"proven? you value yourself far more than anyone values you"
Kavanaugh repeatedly said Keyser (as one of the 4 "witnesses" cited by Ford) "said it didn't happen."  In fact, as Kavanaugh knows, Keyser said she believes Ford's story.  For you to believe Kavanaugh told the truth, you have to believe that Keyser believes something happened that she said didn't happen.  That makes no sense.  Obviously, inarguably, Kavanaugh lied. Under oath.  Repeatedly.  That fact that cannot be contested. It'a all a matter of public record.  

Man up and admit it.  

Then argue that Roady's wrong and honesty doesn't really matter.  


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« Reply #41 on: October 01, 2018, 05:12:03 PM »
Under California law, as with almost every other state, in order for a person to identify publicly as a psychologist they must be licensed by the California Board of Psychology, a process that includes 3,000 hours of post-doctoral professional experience and passing two rigorous exams. To call oneself a psychologist without being licensed by a state board is the equivalent of a law school graduate calling herself a lawyer without ever taking the bar exam.
According to records, Ford is not licensed in the state of California. A recent search through the Department of Consumer Affairs License Bureau, which provides a state-run database of all licensed psychologists in California, produced no results for any variation of spelling on Ford’s name. If Ford at one time had a license but it is now inactive, she would legally still be allowed to call herself a “psychologist” but forbidden from practicing psychology on patients until it was renewed. However, the database would have shown any past licenses granted to Ford, even if they were inactive.
Other lies include :
 I don’t know who’s house it happened at or even what year it happened. I don’t know if I got there before everyone else or after. I don’t know how I got there or how I got home over 8 miles away (at the age of 15).

My life time friend doesn’t remember any of this ( and the other 3 people I said were there testified under oath they don’t know anything about this).
I have a fear of flying , but have no problem jet-setting all over the world while on vacation. I’ve been on airplanes more in the past two months than most people in a year, but my fear is completely legit.
I don’t know who paid for my hotel and polygraph test( the afternoon of my grandmothers funeral, or maybe it was the next day, who knows). And guess what? I flew there. Oh and that polygraph, it was only two questions, neither of which were about Kavanaugh. But hey, I passed so that’s all that matters. And my PhD in psychology definitely, in no way, helped me with it or my testimony today.
My friends on the beach encouraged me to continue contacting the media with my story (because we were running out of time). I can’t name them, so we’ll just call them beach friends. Yet while giving such great advice, none were willing to be character witnesses. Meanwhile, Judge Kavanaugh had hundreds of character witnesses step up in a matter of days.
My lawyers, out of the kindness of their hearts, are helping me for FREE yet I have a “needed” gofundme page that currently is sitting at $473,622. I’m so desperately in need of help there’s even a second gofundme with $209,987. I promise though I’m not getting anything out of my testimony, that money is just going to cover my expenses.
I’m super smart. I have a PhD and I teach graduate students. I know lots of big words, but it should be totally believable that I don’t understand basic questions.
I was the only person in the United States that didn’t know Congress agreed to come to me instead of me going to DC. They really do care about my flying phobia after all.
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