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highVOLtage

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Re: George Papadopoulos Pleads Guilty
« Reply #14 on: October 31, 2017, 01:05:48 PM »

That's kind of a funny pic actually.  Pick the one guy who looks out of place.. our young Greek friend was certainly a greenhorn.

"The Professor" named in the indictment speaks out...

http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/10/31/professor-joseph-mifsud-rejects-claims-papadopolous-muellers-trump-russia-probe

"The Telegraph has identified the professor as Joseph Mifsud, honorary director of the London Academy of Diplomacy, an affiliate of University of Stirling in Scotland.

Mifsud characterized the claims against him as "incredible," and called it a "laughingstock" that he attempted to introduce Papadopolous to a female relative of Vladimir Putin."

Read more here:
http://www.newsweek.com/george-papadopoulos-who-joseph-mifsud-professor-697441?amp=1
« Last Edit: October 31, 2017, 01:10:53 PM by highVOLtage »

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Re: George Papadopoulos Pleads Guilty
« Reply #15 on: October 31, 2017, 02:41:38 PM »

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More the Same from Poley, err, Ratvol, err Scratchvol
« Reply #16 on: October 31, 2017, 03:48:34 PM »
<br /><br />says I got nothing important to add but the usual BS
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President Harry S. Truman said: “The fundamental basis of this nation’s laws was given to Moses on the Mount.  The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings…  If we don't have the proper fundamental moral background, we will finally wind up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the state.”

DunkingDan

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Re: George Papadopoulos Pleads Guilty
« Reply #17 on: October 31, 2017, 03:51:03 PM »
I can help but keep showing my 
Good job Fuzzkid
President Harry S. Truman said: “The fundamental basis of this nation’s laws was given to Moses on the Mount.  The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings…  If we don't have the proper fundamental moral background, we will finally wind up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the state.”

highVOLtage

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Re: George Papadopoulos Pleads Guilty
« Reply #18 on: October 31, 2017, 04:07:07 PM »
Papadopoulos was a non-paid member (he was a volunteer).
He attended one meeting, one time.
This is evidence of collusion?

Actually as Andrew McCarthy notes, it is exculpatory evidence, that is favorable evidence, to exonerate the Trump campaign from the Russian collusion charge.

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"This may raise the hopes of the “collusion with Russia” enthusiasts. But there are two problems here.

First, Papadopoulos was given enough misinformation that we can’t be confident (at least from what Mueller has revealed here) that the Professor was telling Papadopoulos the truth. Remember, by April 2016, it had been known for over a year that Hillary Clinton had used a private email system for public business and had tried to delete and destroy tens of thousands of emails. The Russians could well have been making up a story around that public reporting in order further to cultivate the relationship with Papadopoulos (whom they appear to have seen as potentially useful). Note that the Professor suggested the Russians had Clinton’s own emails. But the emails we know were hacked were not Clinton’s — they were the DNC’s and John Podesta’s (Hillary is on almost none of them). So, Papadopoulos’s Russian interlocutors could well have been weaving a tale based on what had been reported, rather than on what was actually hacked and ultimately released by WikiLeaks.

Second, and more significant: If the proof, at best, implies that the Russians acquired thousands of Clinton emails and then had to inform a tangential Trump campaign figure of this fact so he could pass it along to the campaign, that would mean Trump and his campaign had nothing to do with the acquisition of the emails.

As observed above, this brings us back to the meaning of “collusion.” I’ve long argued that this term has been used by Trump’s accusers because they don’t have proof of criminal collusion. The term “collusion” can have a dark connotation, but it really only means some kind of concerted activity — not necessarily illegal. Prosecutors don’t care about collusion; they care about conspiracy — an agreement by two or more people to commit a violation of a criminal statute. That is, even if there is some concerted activity, collusion is not a crime unless the Trump campaign conspired with the Putin regime to do something federal law makes a crime — for example, to hack communications systems.

To put it another way: Notice that Mueller did not make Papadopoulos plead guilty to collusion with Russia. For a prosecutor, there is nothing better than getting a cooperating accomplice to admit guilt to the scheme the prosecutor is investigating. It goes a long way toward proving that the scheme existed. Once you’ve got that, it’s much easier to prove that the cooperator’s confederates are guilty, too. But even though there’s a great deal of evidence that Papadopoulos colluded with Russia, there’s no charge along those lines. There’s just a single false-statement charge on which, according to the plea agreement, he’s probably looking at no jail time, and certainly no more than six months. Why no collusion charge? Because collusion is not a crime.

..Thus, I think the Papadopoulos guilty plea helps Trump in two ways.

First, it underscores that, whatever “collusion” might have happened, at this point there is no criminal-conspiracy case. Even though Mueller has patently gotten cooperation from Papadopoulos, there is no indication that the defendant has provided any evidence that comes close to implicating the president in a crime.

Second, the offense statement supporting the plea also helps Trump politically..."

Read the whole thing: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/453264/donald-trump-george-papadopoulos-indictment-exculpatory-trump

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Re: George Papadopoulos Pleads Guilty
« Reply #19 on: October 31, 2017, 05:33:00 PM »
Fuzz, you're a good ol' boy....I just can't be mad at you for your fun videos.  ;)

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Re: George Papadopoulos Pleads Guilty
« Reply #20 on: October 31, 2017, 07:18:09 PM »

Mary Anne.   Definitely Mary Anne.  

 

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