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Topic: Fauci: The Response Of Trump Admin Has Been Impressive, I Can't

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mcwterps1

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Re: Fauci: The Response Of Trump Admin Has Been Impressive, I Can't
« Reply #14 on: March 26, 2020, 03:28:04 AM »
I know scientists are working hard to find a vaccine for the Coronavirus.
Perhaps after that is done, they can work hard to find a vaccine for Trump Derangement Syndrome.

Some apparently think that when there is any doubt whatsoever, go ahead and presume the worst.
I'm not sure that Fauci would appreciate being called a liar.  But collateral damage I suppose.
You guys still suffer from ODS, so I'm sure there will be no cure for a while. 

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Re: Fauci: The Response Of Trump Admin Has Been Impressive, I Can't
« Reply #15 on: March 26, 2020, 05:13:49 AM »
I agreed with Obama about 15% of the time and gave credit when it was due.

But in principal, I opposed his tendency towards socialism, increased federalism, nanny state -ism, and continually trying to play the race card to bait people and divide the country.

But he wasn't always wrong, and I acknowledged it.

Here's an example of when I thought he was right:

President Obama Promotes Responsible Fatherhood: "No Excuses"

https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/blog/2010/06/21/president-obama-promotes-responsible-fatherhood-no-excuses

As to foreign affairs:
I thought his trade of terrorists for Bowe Bergdahl was horrible.
I thought allowing China to militarize the South China Sea was wrong.
I thought drawing a red line with Syria and not following through was wrong.
I thought sending billions of dollars in pallets of cash to Iran and signing a horrible deal with Iran while evading a vote in the Senate was wrong.

But, I guess you think Obama called it right all the time.



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Re: Fauci: The Response Of Trump Admin Has Been Impressive, I Can't
« Reply #16 on: March 26, 2020, 06:51:39 AM »
I know scientists are working hard to find a vaccine for the Coronavirus.
Perhaps after that is done, they can work hard to find a vaccine for Trump Derangement Syndrome.

Some apparently think that when there is any doubt whatsoever, go ahead and presume the worst.
I'm not sure that Fauci would appreciate being called a liar.  But collateral damage I suppose.

Trump Derangement Syndrome: Constantly putting your faith in a guy who has shown over and over that he does not deserve it

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Re: Fauci: The Response Of Trump Admin Has Been Impressive, I Can't
« Reply #17 on: March 26, 2020, 09:25:27 AM »
I agreed with Obama about 15% of the time and gave credit when it was due.

But in principal, I opposed his tendency towards socialism, increased federalism, nanny state -ism, and continually trying to play the race card to bait people and divide the country.

But he wasn't always wrong, and I acknowledged it.

Here's an example of when I thought he was right:

President Obama Promotes Responsible Fatherhood: "No Excuses"

https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/blog/2010/06/21/president-obama-promotes-responsible-fatherhood-no-excuses

As to foreign affairs:
I thought his trade of terrorists for Bowe Bergdahl was horrible.
I thought allowing China to militarize the South China Sea was wrong.
I thought drawing a red line with Syria and not following through was wrong.
I thought sending billions of dollars in pallets of cash to Iran and signing a horrible deal with Iran while evading a vote in the Senate was wrong.

But, I guess you think Obama called it right all the time.




I had very good reasons to concerned about Obama when he was the DNC nominee.  But when he was assembling his cabinet, and retained Robert Gates as his Sec Defense, I was encouraged, and began to wonder if he would govern left of center.  I was very willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, and hoped that his leftwing rhetoric was just to appeal to his base.  

Then one of his first initiatives was Cash for Clunkers, an idea so ill-conceived and poorly managed that I realized he was as incompetent as I had feared.  I saw nothing from his presidency that convinced me otherwise.   From the ACA, to his bailout of the GM union, to his weaponization of federal agencies, to his "pen and phone", I thought his policies were bad for the country.   He was a brilliant orator, and the liberals confused that with being a competent executive.  They aren't the same.



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Re: Fauci: The Response Of Trump Admin Has Been Impressive, I Can't
« Reply #18 on: March 26, 2020, 09:44:04 AM »
Obama excelled at optics (abetted by a fawning media).

Trump does not.

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Re: Fauci: The Response Of Trump Admin Has Been Impressive, I Can't
« Reply #19 on: March 26, 2020, 11:08:29 AM »
Was your picture next to the definition?

What about the underlined part I pointed out?

You couldn't differentiate between an I and an O in one of my posts, which made it incomprehensible to you apparently.

Could you perhaps translate the underlined part I showed? That might be why we have an issue with communication.
When one starts complaining about spelling, grammar, typos someone makes they have no argument. It is very simple if you do not understand what someone says to ask for some clarification rather than demonize them.

Just a thought. Have a nice day and stay safe 
President Harry S. Truman said: “The fundamental basis of this nation’s laws was given to Moses on the Mount.  The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings…  If we don't have the proper fundamental moral background, we will finally wind up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the state.”

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Re: Fauci: The Response Of Trump Admin Has Been Impressive, I Can't
« Reply #20 on: March 26, 2020, 01:30:39 PM »
When one starts complaining about spelling, grammar, typos someone makes they have no argument. It is very simple if you do not understand what someone says to ask for some clarification rather than demonize them.

Just a thought. Have a nice day and stay safe
I'm glad you recognize that. 

You hear that Cincy? 

I thought the same thing too DunkingDonuts, but Cincy kept on trolling about a word that my keyboard changed one letter. 

I knew it was silly, but he likes these games. 

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Re: Fauci: The Response Of Trump Admin Has Been Impressive, I Can't
« Reply #21 on: March 26, 2020, 01:31:42 PM »
The one letter made it uninterpretable to me.  

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Re: Fauci: The Response Of Trump Admin Has Been Impressive, I Can't
« Reply #22 on: March 26, 2020, 01:49:21 PM »
I agreed with Obama about 15% of the time and gave credit when it was due.

But in principal, I opposed his tendency towards socialism, increased federalism, nanny state -ism, and continually trying to play the race card to bait people and divide the country.

But he wasn't always wrong, and I acknowledged it.

Here's an example of when I thought he was right:

President Obama Promotes Responsible Fatherhood: "No Excuses"

https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/blog/2010/06/21/president-obama-promotes-responsible-fatherhood-no-excuses

As to foreign affairs:
I thought his trade of terrorists for Bowe Bergdahl was horrible.
I thought allowing China to militarize the South China Sea was wrong.
I thought drawing a red line with Syria and not following through was wrong.
I thought sending billions of dollars in pallets of cash to Iran and signing a horrible deal with Iran while evading a vote in the Senate was wrong.

But, I guess you think Obama called it right all the time.
So much here to hash out, and I'm by far, too lazy to care about the same arguments I heard from my conservative friends at work.

So, I'll highlight just the two glaring points that they made, and you mentioned as well.  It's an ongoing theme with you guys.

These friends of mine, the guys who are in the, "I voted for him the first time", group, always liked the "fatherhood" speeches.  You see, they would never say it, and of course, in our line of work, you can't show favoritism by any means, so when you dug deeper into the reasoning, you come to find out that they were hoping he'd get elected and tell dark skinned people to sit down, shut up, and know their places in society.

This became more evident when Treyvon Martin was shot to death, even though his murderer was told to stay put.  Then of course, M. Brown.

Had there been a white president, and he said, "Tillman could have been my son", no one would bat an eye.  BUT, because Obama said, "Martin could have been my son", well all the racist bells and whistles sounded from the right.  It became a race "card", but not by Obama.


So, you or anyone else can come up with any other excuses you want, but I've been in these discussions.

See, I'm white myself, and have been privy to those conversations of "land values", "uncivilized", "food stamps", and whatever little grievance they could come up with, and I'd look at them so dumbfounded, that they'd try to temper their excitement.

It always amazes me how many of these fake patriots, who swear they love their country, complain about it, and don't understand what this country is made from, built on, is run, and makes us great.  Not patriots.  FAKE PATRIOTS.  I don't care what time you spent in the military.  You aren't a real American if you don't like what it's comprised of and how it got here.  I've seen it here as well, and it's tolerated, so whatever.

Also, the Iran thing, it's been beaten to death about it being THEIR money, so I just don't get the outrage.

Oh, I didn't like lying about the doctors for the ACA.  Toodles.

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Re: Fauci: The Response Of Trump Admin Has Been Impressive, I Can't
« Reply #23 on: March 26, 2020, 02:03:42 PM »
The money to Iran was their money, but being held by us for obvious reasons, and it was a LOT of money.  I personally don't see that we gained anything at all from that agreement, and Iran gained billions is desperately needed hard currency.

Iran claimed not to have a nuclear weapons program.  The IAEA found no evidence they had one.  If they DID have one, it remains covert today, and if they didn't have one, well, they didn't give anything up, and their missile programs just got funded.

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Re: Fauci: The Response Of Trump Admin Has Been Impressive, I Can't
« Reply #24 on: March 26, 2020, 02:15:59 PM »

Obama was the greatest Black President in American history.

(if you like Obama's legacy, you can keep it by voting for Joe the 'Jobs Czar')

Bring back Obama's good times and Hillary's foreign policy. (that's the ticket)

FORWARD.........

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« Reply #25 on: March 26, 2020, 02:19:24 PM »
Does HK believe his own BS that he agreed with Obama 15% of the time?  If that's so, he kept it a closely held secret.  How about providing a few examples, there, HK, like you did of a few of the times you disagreed with him.    

And Cincy didn't like the lies about the ACA, but has never complained here about the Republican legislators publicly claiming that people would be send before "Death Panels" at the age of 74 where it would be determined whether they lived or died.  

But let's get back to the OP, shall we?  "I can't imagine anyone could be doing more..."  Am I the only one who sees the unintended humor in that?  Isn't that kind of comically hyperbolic fawning a requirement just to be in Trump's presence?  


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8GkzsUaQVU


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« Reply #26 on: March 26, 2020, 02:29:34 PM »

Had there been a white president, and he said, "Tillman could have been my son", no one would bat an eye.  BUT, because Obama said, "Martin could have been my son", well all the racist bells and whistles sounded from the right.  It became a race "card", but not by Obama.
(White American) conservatives despise it when blacks mention race publicly, unless it is to castigate fellow blacks for their behavior - then they absolutely adore it.  All Obama did was have the audacity to mention that he was black to assure a group of upset Americans as he could empathize with their grief, and this board flew into a rage (Roady was the torch-bearer) and to this day insist it makes him the most divisive POTUS in our history.  

Good point that it became the race card (and not by Obama).  Just like TDS is actually a conservative affliction preventing them from perceiving reality.  

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« Reply #27 on: March 26, 2020, 02:42:31 PM »

Good point....about Obama calling out the racist Cambridge Police Dept.


 

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