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Topic: Father knows best... ?

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DunkingDan

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Re: Father knows best... ?
« Reply #56 on: February 16, 2018, 05:22:37 PM »
Quote from: Fuzzkid on Today at 06:16:42 PM

I just want to use this as an excuse to ban anything as long as its a gun 





In other words you are to dumb to know what an assault rifle is, how hard it is to obtain one, how little their used in crime or anything about guns. Likewise you want to ignore the real root causes.

  
President Harry S. Truman said: “The fundamental basis of this nation’s laws was given to Moses on the Mount.  The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings…  If we don't have the proper fundamental moral background, we will finally wind up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the state.”

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Re: Father knows best... ?
« Reply #57 on: February 16, 2018, 05:48:16 PM »
President Harry S. Truman said: “The fundamental basis of this nation’s laws was given to Moses on the Mount.  The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings…  If we don't have the proper fundamental moral background, we will finally wind up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the state.”

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Re: Father knows best... ?
« Reply #58 on: February 16, 2018, 06:39:15 PM »


Sounds like some pretty lax gun laws.  If I was in charge, that guy would be locked up.  

I'm guessing the NRA isn't advocating any punishment for the businesses who were duped by the "false" id's.  



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Re: Father knows best... ?
« Reply #59 on: February 16, 2018, 06:56:49 PM »


Actually Fuzz it was lax enforcement just like in the Clinton administration 

If the business could tell it was a false ID then they have violated laws, just as they do with fake IDS many use to buy alcohol with. 

As I said from a few years ago the NRA still is calling for the same thing. You might read it and think. 

So we believe in zero tolerance for anyone illegally buying guns for juveniles.

 
 We encourage the vigilance of everyone to keep illegal guns out of the hands of minors. But more importantly, of the thousands of criminals who bought guns for juveniles, we believe the Clinton Administration should have prosecuted more than just 5 in 1997 and 6 in 1998. That's not zero tolerance.
 
 We believe gang bangers caught carrying guns shouldn't be let go just because they're under 18.
 So we support mandatory penalties for juvenile criminals caught carrying guns. But out of the thousands of these armed teen thugs, we believe the Clinton Justice Department should have prosecuted more than just 3 in 1997 and 8 in 1998. That's not zero tolerance.

 
 We believe that even if violent juvenile felons get a second chance at going straight, they should never get a second chance at owning a gun. Some call it Juvenile Brady -- we call it common sense. We support barring all juveniles convicted of violent felonies from owning guns, for life.
 
 We also believe that criminal records of violent juveniles ought to remain open indefinitely, not expunged in the middle of their crime spree. They shouldn't get a clean criminal slate to splatter with blood again just because they turn 18 or 21.
 
 We support restoring full and perpetual funding for the National Instant Check System, which was the product of this Association's determined effort. It is a federal crime for a felon to try to buy a gun. So for the quarter million prohibited buyers President Clinton claims were turned away, we believe his Justice Department should have prosecuted more than zero in 1996, zero in 1997 and zero in 1998. That's surely not zero tolerance.
 
 We believe that people adjudicated mentally incompetent should be prevented from buying guns. That's the law. But it can't be enforced because those records are often sealed. So we advocate that records of court-declared mental incompetents be unsealed and made available to the instant check system. Believe it or not, insanities like John Hinckley's would not prevent a gun purchase today because most mental records are invisible to the instant check system. Let's close the Hinckley loophole!
 
 We believe that a lawful, properly-permitted citizen who chooses to carry a concealed firearm not only deserves that right, but is a deterrent to crime. We support the right to carry because it has helped cut crime rates in all 31 states that have adopted it ... with almost no abuse of any kind by the lawful citizens who took the courses, submitted to the background checks, passed the tests and became part of a proud citizens movement that's making America a safer place to live. The truth is, very few actually choose to carry a gun -- but the bad guys don't know which few they are.
 
 We believe freedom should never be diminished for those who abide by the law. On the contrary, freedom should be diminished only for those who break the law. That is the principle upon which we stand opposed to waiting period proposals and one-gun-a-month schemes.
 
 We support reversing the Clinton Administration policy of not prosecuting felons with guns. We advocate national adoption of Project Exile, a zero-tolerance project that began in Richmond, Virginia, but can't seem to get the support of President Clinton's Justice Department. Any felon caught with a gun, no matter what he's doing, goes to jail for 5 years, period.

  
President Harry S. Truman said: “The fundamental basis of this nation’s laws was given to Moses on the Mount.  The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings…  If we don't have the proper fundamental moral background, we will finally wind up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the state.”

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Re: Father knows best... ?
« Reply #60 on: February 17, 2018, 03:37:02 PM »

Fuzz kid does not want to discuss Chicago's failed policies 

Wonder why. Could it be because it is one great big killing field due to the failed polices of the Dems?
President Harry S. Truman said: “The fundamental basis of this nation’s laws was given to Moses on the Mount.  The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings…  If we don't have the proper fundamental moral background, we will finally wind up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the state.”

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Well Fuzz can you do it?
« Reply #61 on: February 17, 2018, 03:39:04 PM »

Fuzz do you know how hard it is to get an assault rifle?

Any idea how many are used in crimes?

Tell us which one is the assault rifle and why it is one

A.



B


President Harry S. Truman said: “The fundamental basis of this nation’s laws was given to Moses on the Mount.  The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings…  If we don't have the proper fundamental moral background, we will finally wind up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the state.”

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Re: Father knows best... ?
« Reply #62 on: February 17, 2018, 07:32:32 PM »
Fuzz, I am still waiting for you to win an argument. Please keep trying, you at least make things interesting. :72:

https://www.redstate.com/diary/stafko/2013/01/16/real-reasons-liberals-hate-guns/
What you have to understand is that, for liberals, the gun control debate isn’t actually about guns. It’s about supressing power. To be more specific, it’s about whether power should lie with the people or with the government. Liberals, of course, side with government.
Gun ownership puts power into the hands of the people and therefore they are less dependent on the government. Owning a gun at the time of need gives the law-abiding gun owner the ability to make the decision as to whether the use of force is lawful, right, and justified. The American Left doesn’t believe ordinary citizens have the ability to make such decisions, hence their love affair with gun control.


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Re: Father knows best... ?
« Reply #63 on: February 18, 2018, 01:22:37 AM »

Fuzzy says, "Thank you for keeping your post under 1,000 words."

No problem fuzzy since You can't actually comprehend more than 100 words without confusing yourself so I'm here to help you.

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