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Topic: Democrats have totally lost their minds

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billyboy75

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Re: Democrats have totally lost their minds
« Reply #42 on: June 30, 2019, 04:13:33 PM »
That may be, but they knew they could control Hillary, they had before.

Trump was an unknown.   Turns out, he is tough on Russia.  Much more so than Bill or Obama had ever been.

Russia wanted discord.  That is all.  

We interfere in elections all of the time.   They interfere in ours all of the time.

Nothing to see here.  

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Re: Democrats have totally lost their minds
« Reply #43 on: June 30, 2019, 04:33:17 PM »
Andrew Sullivan: The Democratic Candidates Are in a Bubble on Immigration.


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I’m told that, as a legal immigrant, I’m shutting the door behind me now that I’ve finally made it to citizenship. I’m not. I favor solid continuing legal immigration, but also a reduction in numbers and a new focus on skills in an economy where unskilled labor is increasingly a path to nowhere. It is not strange that legal immigrants — who have often spent years and thousands of dollars to play by the rules — might be opposed to others’ jumping the line. It is not strange that a hefty proportion of Latino legal immigrants oppose illegal immigration — they are often the most directly affected by new, illegal competition, which drives down their wages. . . .

When I’m told only white racists favor restrictionism, I note how the Mexican people are more opposed to illegal immigration than Americans: In a new poll, 61.5 percent of Mexicans oppose the entry of undocumented migrants, period; 44 percent believe that Mexico should remove any undocumented alien immediately. Are Mexicans now white supremacists too? That hostility to illegal immigration may even explain why Trump’s threat to put tariffs on Mexico if it didn’t crack down may well have worked. Since Trump’s bluster, the numbers have measurably declined — and the crackdown is popular in Mexico. I can also note that most countries outside Western Europe have strict immigration control and feel no need to apologize for it. Are the Japanese and Chinese “white supremacists”? Please. Do they want to sustain their own culture and national identity? Sure. Is that now the equivalent of the KKK?




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Re: Democrats have totally lost their minds
« Reply #44 on: June 30, 2019, 04:39:19 PM »
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Re: Democrats have totally lost their minds
« Reply #45 on: June 30, 2019, 05:04:23 PM »
That may be, but they knew they could control Hillary, they had before.

They already owned Hillary through corruption and buying her in the Uranium One deal.  That doesn't even count the fact she is completely incompetent as documented in her time as Secretary of State.  Having her as President would have been a massive disaster for America.

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Re: Democrats have totally lost their minds
« Reply #46 on: June 30, 2019, 05:09:11 PM »
Guys that's a couple standing 8 counts for the fuzz.....You guys were merciless...


In all fairness, fuzzy has a damned near impossible job, coming on here each day and trying to defend the Democrats and be an apologist for the likes of Obama and Hillary Clinton and their indefensible actions.  Obviously his only strategy can be to attack Trump but with Trump's record of success that also becomes an impossible task. 

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Re: Democrats have totally lost their minds
« Reply #47 on: June 30, 2019, 05:29:22 PM »
I too respect Fuzzy's stubborn intelligence.  He is a formidable debating foe.  Of course, he is almost always wrong so it makes it easy to win the debate.

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Re: Democrats have totally lost their minds
« Reply #48 on: June 30, 2019, 06:12:51 PM »

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« Reply #49 on: June 30, 2019, 07:02:02 PM »
The Russians wanted to foment dissent in our political process

To what end?  What's the benefit of "dissent?"  Is that what they told you on Fox News?  They knew whatever dissent they were able to foment was good for Trump.  Generally speaking they want to see right-wingers win everywhere in the world.  

You're going to be shocked if you ever educate yourself on the extent of their meddling.  I'd dig it up for you but I'm not inclined to waste my time because you're impervious to facts from objective, verified sources.  

Oh come now fuzzie.   Just because I don't exclusively rely on "designer news" that is filtered to me by the MSM whose job it is to bury stories that make Democrats look bad?  Unlike you, I'm piecing together information and questioning the latest media narrative that even though Trump didn't collude, the Russians still helped him.   You're not in possession of all of the facts because you immediately reject any news story that doesn't come from Comedy Central or CNN.  You only get one side of the story, and it shows.   You didn't even know about the "Russia reset button" until I told you.   

And forgive me if I am dubious about the conclusions of the leading intelligence agencies.  Aren't those the same ones that all used the phony dossier to conclude that Donald colluded with the Russians.   You're like a baby bird, beak open, ready to take in the pablum fed to you by the media.  


and they succeeded because the Democrats won't accept the results of the election. 
 
You mean like the birthers as lead by Donald Trump?

I defend the positions that I take, not those of others.   

This has nothing to do with your position.   The Russians want to sew distrust in our political system and weaken the country by fomenting incessant arguing.  All you have to do is listen to some of the extreme - and all too common - anti-Trump vitriol that is spewed by people these days.  They get it from social media, MSNBC, CNN, and now Jimmy Carter.   

Why would they favor a Republican over Hillary and her reset button anyway?  

They favored Trump - I'm not going to argue non-controversial, established facts that are only disputed by the farthest right extreme fringe who probably find Alex Jones too moderate.  

I'm sure you're unaware that the Russians were behind the anti-Trump rallies that took place immediately after the election.  Don't take my word for it, Rod Rosenstein said it in Feb 2018.  If the Russians favored Trump, why organize the anti-Trump rallies?  

Facts aren't extreme just because they don't fit in with the narrative you are being fed.  

Never too late to join reality, Texie.  Don't give up on yourself.  


I'm not going to join the rest of you.  
 


 

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