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steve37777

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Re: Democrats have totally lost their minds
« Reply #28 on: June 30, 2019, 10:55:31 AM »
You go Hightop...Outstanding.

 

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Re: Democrats have totally lost their minds
« Reply #29 on: June 30, 2019, 11:22:10 AM »
The primary goal was a Trump victory. 

That was not the assessment of our intelligence services.

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« Reply #30 on: June 30, 2019, 11:29:23 AM »
Facts are irrelevant for Fuzz.  Its all programmed mantra.   Democrats were admirers of Russia from 1917 until 2 years ago.  What changed that?

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Re: Democrats have totally lost their minds
« Reply #31 on: June 30, 2019, 12:48:11 PM »
The ICA states that:
We assess Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered an influence campaign in 2016 aimed at the U.S. presidential election. Russia's goals were to undermine public faith in the U.S. democratic process, denigrate Secretary Clinton, and harm her electability and potential presidency. We further assess Putin and the Russian Government developed a clear preference for President-elect Trump.[2]
  • The Committee found that the ICA provided a range of all-source reporting to support these assessments.
  • The Committee concurs with intelligence and open-source assessments that this influence campaign was approved by President Putin.
  • Further, a body of reporting, to include different intelligence disciplines, open source reporting on Russian leadership policy preferences, and Russian media content, showed that Moscow sought to denigrate Secretary Clinton.
  • The ICA relies on public Russian leadership commentary, Russian state media reports, public examples of where Russian interests would have aligned with candidates' policy statements, and a body of intelligence reporting to support the assessment that Putin and the Russian Government developed a clear preference for Trump.


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Re: Democrats have totally lost their minds
« Reply #32 on: June 30, 2019, 01:05:19 PM »
The primary goal was a Trump victory. 

You have lost your mind.  The Russians wanted to foment dissent in our political process, and they succeeded because the Democrats won't accept the results of the election.   

Why would they favor a Republican over Hillary and her reset button anyway?  

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Re: Democrats have totally lost their minds
« Reply #33 on: June 30, 2019, 01:15:17 PM »
I can't imagine that the Russians really thought their puny efforts would have any pivotal impact.  They did hope it would cast doubt on the outcome and weaken the US Presidency.  They were as surprised as anyone when Trump won.


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« Reply #34 on: June 30, 2019, 01:35:14 PM »
I can't imagine that the Russians really thought their puny efforts would have any pivotal impact.  They did hope it would cast doubt on the outcome and weaken the US Presidency.  They were as surprised as anyone when Trump won.



I don't know about you, but I voted for Trump because of some meme on Facebook.  




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Re: Democrats have totally lost their minds
« Reply #35 on: June 30, 2019, 01:38:16 PM »
The examples I have seen of Russians efforts were awful, amateurish and bad, versus the billions spent by the campaigns.


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« Reply #36 on: June 30, 2019, 02:33:10 PM »
The Russians wanted to foment dissent in our political process

To what end?  What's the benefit of "dissent?"  Is that what they told you on Fox News?  They knew whatever dissent they were able to foment was good for Trump.  Generally speaking they want to see right-wingers win everywhere in the world.  

You're going to be shocked if you ever educate yourself on the extent of their meddling.  I'd dig it up for you but I'm not inclined to waste my time because you're impervious to facts from objective, verified sources.  

and they succeeded because the Democrats won't accept the results of the election. 
 
You mean like the birthers as lead by Donald Trump?

I defend the positions that I take, not those of others.   

Why would they favor a Republican over Hillary and her reset button anyway? 

They favored Trump - I'm not going to argue non-controversial, established facts that are only disputed by the farthest right extreme fringe who probably find Alex Jones too moderate.  

Never too late to join reality, Texie.  Don't give up on yourself.  

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« Reply #37 on: June 30, 2019, 02:48:56 PM »
ukraine is russian, formerly part of russia, and it tried to tip the scales for Hillary, another well known fact:

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/435029-as-russia-collusion-fades-ukrainian-plot-to-help-clinton-emerges
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Re: Democrats have totally lost their minds
« Reply #39 on: June 30, 2019, 03:10:51 PM »
Russia's goals were to undermine public faith in the U.S. democratic process, denigrate Secretary Clinton, and harm her electability and potential presidency.

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Re: Democrats have totally lost their minds
« Reply #40 on: June 30, 2019, 03:40:32 PM »
Guys that's a couple standing 8 counts for the fuzz.....You guys were merciless...

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« Reply #41 on: June 30, 2019, 03:43:02 PM »
Russia's goals were to undermine public faith in the U.S. democratic process, denigrate Secretary Clinton, and harm her electability and potential presidency.

This is from the government ICA (assessment) chartered by Obama, which perhaps is reason to doubt it.  But, in this case, it makes sense.  They figured Clinton would win but wanted to weaken her as President for obvious reasons.


 

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