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harvestalvol

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Re: Covid Numbers Today
« Reply #140 on: August 07, 2020, 09:01:13 AM »
We could have reached herd immunity and now numbers are going down? If 80% who are infected have little no symptoms? I know several that have gotten cold-like symptoms and did not go to the doc or get tested. 

COVID-19: Achieving herd immunity may occur sooner than previously thought

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/covid-19-achieving-herd-immunity-may-occur-sooner-than-previously-thought

A new modeling study suggests that the threshold for achieving herd immunity for COVID-19 is much lower than scientists had assumed.

When they updated the classical model to take into account rates of transmission in different age groups and among people with varying levels of social activity, the threshold for herd immunity fell to 43%.

However, the new model does suggest that a population can reach herd immunity sooner – and after fewer deaths – than some forecasts early in the pandemic had suggested.


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Re: Covid Numbers Today
« Reply #141 on: August 07, 2020, 09:04:16 AM »
There is some evidence that some of us, maybe even half, have some resistance because of an earlier infection of a related corona virus, which might explain Sweden.


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Re: Covid Numbers Today
« Reply #142 on: August 08, 2020, 12:51:26 AM »




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Re: Covid Numbers Today
« Reply #143 on: August 08, 2020, 02:41:36 AM »

https://www.outkick.com/florida-texas-and-california-have-a-fraction-of-covid-deaths-of-new-york/

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New York (and New Jersey) have the two highest coronavirus death rates in the world. In. The. World. If New York had a death rate equal to the average of Florida, Texas, or California, our nation’s three most populous states, it would have had 4,100 people die instead of 32,780. There’s no other way to put this: the leadership of New York governor Andrew Cuomo — and New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio — directly contributed to tens of thousands of additional, and unnecessary, deaths in New York state.

This is arguably criminal mismanagement by New York’s elected politicians. Yet almost no one in the media is looking at the basic data and asking how such wildly divergent outcomes are possible in our nation’s most populous states. Instead the fear porn purveyors in the media have been trying to convince you that Florida, Texas, and Arizona — which just so happen to have Republican governors — were all going to turn into red state versions of New York.

Only…it didn’t happen.

Or even come close to happening.


Want an even wilder stat? This is for our buddy, King of the Coronabros, Darren Rovell, the 11 state SEC footprint, that’s Florida, Texas, Georgia, Tennessee, Missouri, South Carolina, Alabama, Mississippi, Arkansas, Kentucky, and Louisiana have fewer deaths than New York state by itself.

That’s despite the 11 SEC states having a population of over 100 million compared to New York’s 19.5 million.

If New York State had been able to equal the same coronavirus performance as the SEC states, New York would have had 26,000 fewer deaths.

Put simply, this protection of Andrew Cuomo is insanity.

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Re: Covid Numbers Today
« Reply #144 on: August 08, 2020, 03:22:36 PM »
Pa 8-8

🆕 813 new cases statewide
📶 118,092 total cases statewide


🆕 29 new Luzerne County cases
📶 3,438 total Luzerne County cases




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Re: Covid Numbers Today
« Reply #145 on: August 08, 2020, 08:34:39 PM »
https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/392373/#respond


DO THEY, NOW? Scientists say COVID-19 recovery plans should include climate change. They think this makes climate change sound more urgent, but actually it makes the pandemic seem less urgent, and more like an excuse.

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Re: Covid Numbers Today
« Reply #146 on: August 09, 2020, 02:38:33 AM »
Four more COVID deaths in Hong Kong.
That brings it to 11 in the past two weeks - average age of 85 - youngest was age 75.
All with pre-existing conditions.
Meanwhile, over 4,000 infections since February and not a single death amongst those under age 60 and healthy.

https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/health-environment/article/3096623/hong-kong-third-wave-four-more-elderly-patients

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Four more elderly patients infected with the coronavirus died in Hong Kong on Sunday, taking the death toll to 51, as a medical source said the city would see another 70 new Covid-19 cases. The Hospital Authority said three women, aged 78, 88 and 90, died in the early hours, while an 81-year-old man died at 7.52am. All four had chronic illnesses and their situations had worsened since they were admitted to hospital.

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Re: Covid Numbers Today
« Reply #148 on: August 09, 2020, 03:42:24 PM »
Georgia has stabilized, at a fairly high level, and hospital use is at max in some locations.  The new case rate reported MAY be trending down, slightly, I hope.

I'm negative, as of Wednesday anyway.

The test was unpleasant.

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Re: Covid Numbers Today
« Reply #149 on: August 09, 2020, 07:36:18 PM »
Mainland China is supposed to be sending medical teams to offer "free tests" for the entire Hong Kong populace.
Many (including me) will refuse to take it as it is presumed it is a way for the CCP to collect DNA samples.

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Re: Covid Numbers Today
« Reply #150 on: August 09, 2020, 08:21:43 PM »

https://sebastianrushworth.com/2020/08/04/how-bad-is-covid-really-a-swedish-doctors-perspective/

How bad is covid really? (A Swedish doctor’s perspective)

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Ok, I want to preface this article by stating that it is entirely anecdotal and based on my experience working as a doctor in the emergency room of one of the big hospitals in Stockholm, Sweden, and of living as a citizen in Sweden. As many people know, Sweden is perhaps the country that has taken the most relaxed attitude of any towards the covid pandemic. Unlike other countries, Sweden never went in to complete lockdown. Non-essential businesses have remained open, people have continued to go to cafés and restaurants, children have remained in school, and very few people have bothered with face masks in public.

Covid hit Stockholm like a storm in mid-March. One day I was seeing people with appendicitis and kidney stones, the usual things you see in the emergency room. The next day all those patients were gone and the only thing coming in to the hospital was covid. Practically everyone who was tested had covid, regardless of what the presenting symtom was. People came in with a nose bleed and they had covid. They came in with stomach pain and they had covid.

Then, after a few months, all the covid patients disappeared. It is now four months since the start of the pandemic, and I haven’t seen a single covid patient in over a month. When I do test someone because they have a cough or a fever, the test invariably comes back negative. At the peak three months back, a hundred people were dying a day of covid in Sweden, a country with a population of ten million. We are now down to around five people dying per day in the whole country, and that number continues to drop. Since people generally die around three weeks after infection, that means virtually no-one is getting infected any more. If we assume around 0.5 percent of those infected die (which I think is very generous, more on that later), then that means that three weeks back 1,000 people were getting infected per day in the whole country, which works out to a daily risk per person of getting infected of 1 in 10,000, which is miniscule. And remember, the risk of dying is at the very most 1 in 200 if you actually do get infected. And that was three weeks ago. Basically, covid is in all practical senses over and done with in Sweden. After four months.

In total covid has killed under 6,000 people in a country of ten million. A country with an annual death rate of around 100,000 people. Considering that 70% of those who have died of covid are over 80 years old, quite a few of those 6,000 would have died this year anyway. That makes covid a mere blip in terms of its effect on mortality.


I am not denying that covid is awful for the people who do get really sick or for the families of the people who die, just as it is awful for the families of people who die of cancer, or influenza, or an opioid overdose. But the size of the response in most of the world (not including Sweden) has been totally disproportionate to the size of the threat.

Sweden ripped the metaphorical band-aid off quickly and got the epidemic over and done with in a short amount of time, while the rest of the world has chosen to try to peel the band-aid off slowly. At present that means Sweden has one of the highest total death rates in the world. But covid is over in Sweden. People have gone back to their normal lives and barely anyone is getting infected any more. I am willing to bet that the countries that have shut down completely will see rates spike when they open up. If that is the case, then there won’t have been any point in shutting down in the first place, because all those countries are going to end up with the same number of dead at the end of the day anyway. Shutting down completely in order to decrease the total number of deaths only makes sense if you are willing to stay shut down until a vaccine is available. That could take years. No country is willing to wait that long.



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Re: Covid Numbers Today
« Reply #151 on: August 09, 2020, 08:28:45 PM »
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This conclusion makes sense of the Swedish fatality numbers – if we’ve reached a point where there is hardly any active infection going on any more in Sweden in spite of the fact that there is barely any social distancing happening then that means at least 50% of the population has been infected already and have developed immunity, which is five million people. This number is perfectly reasonable if we assume a reproductive number for the virus of two: If each person infects two new, with a five day period between being infected and infecting others, and you start out with just one infected person in the country, then you will reach a point where several million are infected in just four months. If only 6000 are dead out of five million infected, that works out to a case fatality rate of 0.12 percent, roughly the same as regular old influenza, which no-one is the least bit frightened of, and which we don’t shut down our societies for.

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Re: Covid Numbers Today
« Reply #152 on: August 09, 2020, 08:36:48 PM »
Sweden eschewed lockdowns. It's too early to be certain it was wrong

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Re: Covid Numbers Today
« Reply #153 on: August 09, 2020, 08:38:15 PM »
America, let's take notes. : NoNewNormal

 

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