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HK_Vol

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Court intimidation
« on: April 19, 2021, 07:30:22 PM »
I worry deeply for our country....too many think what is happening is "righteous".  It is not.

https://legalinsurrection.com/2021/04/live-chauvin-trial-day-15-closing-arguments-and-jury-instructions/

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What’s not normal, of course, is the judicial terrorism raging around this case.

Terrorism, of course, is the use of non-state violence to achieve political ends.  What we are seeing currently in America is the use of violence to achieve purported “justice,” in the twisted and profoundly anti-American view of “justice” that is held by militant factions of such groups as Black Lives Matter, Antifa, and other proponents of mob rage and violence and destruction, in which “justice” is defined not by the process but by the outcome.

As one example, the UK-based Daily Mail is reporting that the former home of defense use-of-force expert witness Barry Brodd was vandalized with blood last night—and in case there was any ambiguity in the messaging, a severed pig’s head was also left behind.  Although this act of judicial terrorism has gone largely unreported by the US press, it’s certainly been noted on platforms like Twitter, by Jack Posobiec and others:




Given that Brodd’s testimony in this case is long since over, this cannot be a message targeted at him personally, as there’s nothing to left intimidate him about.

No, this can only be understood as a chilling message for the jurors in the Chauvin case, who were not sequestered over the weekend, and thus fully exposed to the “push” news of social media.

Even worse, of course, is that such acts of judicial terrorism have ripple effects that reach to every other high-profile case that may occur anytime in the living memory of anyone aware of this case.  Every prospective witness, juror, even defense counsel in the next high-profile case—perhaps the rapidly approaching Rittenhouse trial?—will be fully aware of what they can expect if they play any role in the defense whatever.

This would all be bad enough if the acts of judicial terrorism were limited to a handful of fringe wackos, but it’s not. 

Apparently, such conduct is gleefully embraced even by America’s fringe national-level politicians.

The UK-based The Guardian is reporting that US Congresswoman Maxine Waters has crossed state lines to incite violence among protestors in Minneapolis, urging the mob to “get more confrontational.”


Those words said in the midst of a peaceful protest could be interpreted as merely urging further peaceful efforts—when said in the midst of a protest already violent, it can only be interpreted as a call for more violence.

And, sure enough, shortly after Waters’ comments, shots were fired at Minnesota National Guardsman present to secure public safety from the violent mob.

In that same video clip, Waters can be heard demanding that the chaos occurring in the streets of Minneapolis and all over the country around the trial of Derek Chauvin continue, and intensify, unless Chauvin is found guilty of first-degree (pre-meditated) murder—an intentional killing charge not even the state of Minnesota thought appropriate to bring against him, and obviously one not even on the table for the jury’s consideration.

A routine question for criminal defense attorneys at cocktail parties is, how can you defend people in court whom you know to be among society’s worst criminal predators.

And the fundamental answer to that question, at least for this criminal defense attorney, is because I care desperately about the process of justice generally, and American criminal due process in particular.

Denial of the criminal due process to the worst of us can only lead to denial of criminal due process to the rest of us—and therein lies mob “justice” and judicial, or even literal, lynching.

The American vision of justice has always been based on that process, and not on the particular outcome in any specific case, a view which helped ensure that process for all us, from best to worst, and prioritized process justice over the mob justice.

In contrast, the mob vision of justice is based entirely on outcome, and process be damned.  No judicial or criminal due process can be permitted to interfere with the “justice” demanded by the mob.


Of course, this is precisely the view of “justice” that led to the infamous lynching of Emmitt Till in 1955 Mississippi, a black 14-year-old, for the purported crime of offending a white woman in a grocery store.

And this is precisely the mob justice that the militant factions of Black Lives Matter and Antifa want to bring to 2021 America.

Give us guilty, on all counts, even on counts not actually being argued in this trial, or we burn it all down generally, and target defense witnesses and, by implication, the trial jurors specifically.

Good luck with that, America.



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Re: Court intimidation
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2021, 07:31:51 PM »
Imagine if Chauvin was your brother.....

More.

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Frankly, at this point it’s absolutely apparent that Derek Chauvin can receive nothing like a fair trial in this case.  When I write that, by the way, I’m defining “fair trial” as one involving a process we’d want for ourselves or a loved one, or even a friend or neighbor.

No one would want to be on trial, or have anyone they cared about on trial, in a courthouse surrounded by a violent, raging mob, being exhorted to further violence by government officials, with militant factions of political groups terrorizing the witness for the defense, and by extension the jury itself.

Yet that is what’s been offered to Derek Chauvin as “justice.”

Regardless of what anyone may think of Derek Chauvin, it is absolute truth that the criminal due process we offer to the worst of us is precisely what any of the rest of us should expect to also receive should we find ourselves having to account in a criminal court. And not one bit more.

If you would not want to be tried under these circumstances, then you ought not want anyone tried under these circumstances, including Derek Chauvin, or worse.




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Re: Court intimidation
« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2021, 07:36:21 PM »
Good breakdown.

https://legalinsurrection.com/2021/04/chauvin-trial-verdict-prediction-of-sorts-on-legal-merits-alone-not-guilty-but-political-dynamics-drive-injustice/

Chauvin Trial Verdict Prediction (of Sorts): On legal merits alone, not guilty — but political dynamics drive injustice
Attorney Andrew Branca of The Law of Self-Defense explains his view as we head into closing arguments and jury deliberations

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Re: Court intimidation
« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2021, 09:45:15 PM »
In Closing Argument, Prosecutor Tearfully Addresses Each Juror By Name, Phone Number, And Street Address | The Babylon Bee



MINNEAPOLIS, MN—Prosecutor Steve Schleicher delivered powerful closing arguments today in the Derek Chauvin trial. In one especially touching moment, he made sure to individually address every member of the jury by name, phone number, and street address.

"I call on you, [redacted] whose phone number is [redacted] and who lives at [redacted]," he said through tears. "Do the right thing and pronounce the defendant guilty. And you [redacted], who can be reached at [redacted] and usually comes home each night at 6pm, I implore you to do what's best for you and your adorable 2-year-old boy. It would be a shame if Antifa found out where he goes to school."

Media reports indicated the jury appeared very moved by the closing arguments, as they were all shaking and crying by the end of them.

In yet another touching gesture, Antifa has already shown up at all the addresses with bricks and Molotov cocktails to help protect them in case any fascists show up.




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Re: Court intimidation
« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2021, 07:07:41 PM »
Amazing isnt it. A stone cold thug gets millions for a his family. A Memorial built.

And a guy trying to do a job get's prison  

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Re: Court intimidation
« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2021, 12:52:26 AM »
Amazing isnt it. A stone cold thug gets millions for a his family. A Memorial built.

And a guy trying to do a job get's prison 
The mistake that too many people make is assuming that all of these cases are alike, and therefore you need to defend the police in all situations.  Everyone should agree that Chauvin's actions were unjustified, and he should be punished.  That doesn't mean that every police confrontation with an African American is an example of excessive force.  The Chauvin case is a reminder that we need to do a better job of police training, and also a better job of monitoring and holding police accountable.   Chauvin had numerous previous incidents where he was charged with using excessive force, but nothing was really done about it.  If the MPD had done a better job eliminating the "bad apples", this whole tragedy may have been avoided.  

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Re: Court intimidation
« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2021, 12:56:19 AM »
Chauvin should have gotten third degree manslaughter, not second degree murder.


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Re: Court intimidation
« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2021, 07:23:16 AM »
Chauvin should have gotten third degree manslaughter, not second degree murder.
Mob rule.

The Mob is well funded.






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Re: Court intimidation
« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2021, 09:24:46 AM »


The new NAZI party with their Brown Shirts (Antifa, BLM) and Gestapo (FBI, DOJ) doing there best to help blacks take over America hoping they will allow them to stay in power.

Welcome to the new Zimbabwe. They're already burning cities so how long before we see burning tires hanging around white peoples necks?
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Re: Court intimidation
« Reply #10 on: May 04, 2021, 11:22:14 AM »
Derek Chauvin juror's 'BLM' T-shirt sparks concerns about trial verdicts: report

Brandon Mitchell wore a Black Lives Matter T-shirt at a DC march that said 'Get your knee off our neck'

https://www.foxnews.com/us/derek-chauvin-juror-blm-shirt-concerns-trial-verdicts

A photo that recently emerged online of a juror on the Derek Chauvin murder trial wearing a Black Lives Matter T-shirt has sparked questions about his impartiality, according to reports.

Juror Brandon Mitchell, 31, who is Black, could be seen in the photo wearing the T-shirt emblazoned with a picture of Martin Luther King Jr. and the phrases "Get your knee off our neck" and "BLM." He is also wearing a "Black Lives Matter" hat in the photo.

Mitchell was the first member of the jury that convicted Chauvin of murdering George Floyd to publicly comment about the trial.

The other asked: "Other than what you have already described above, have you, or anyone close to you, participated in protests about police use of force or police brutality?"

Mitchell told the Tribune that he replied "no" to both questions.


"That could change the outcome of things; if there is anything that makes him seem that he was not forthcoming, it could be an avenue for the judge to reconsider the case," Tuerkheimer told the newspaper.

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Re: Court intimidation
« Reply #11 on: May 05, 2021, 05:10:19 AM »
A juror in the Derek Chauvin trial may have jeopardized the guilty verdict by attending a rally last year and wearing a “Get Your Knee Off Our Necks/BLM” T-shirt, raising questions about whether he told the truth during jury selection.

Brandon Mitchell, known as Juror #52, told Minneapolis news outlets Monday that he attended the Aug. 28 march in Washington, D.C., featuring speeches by George Floyd’s siblings, while a photo circulating online shows him with two cousins wearing the T-shirt as well as a “Black Lives Matter” hat.

What may come back to haunt the prosecution is that Mr. Mitchell, 31, answered “no” when asked during jury selection if he had attended any protests for George Floyd.



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