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Cincydawg

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Re: Climate Change
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2019, 01:10:31 PM »
As most understand, this is a weather event, not a climate event.

However, I understand some folks confuse weather and climate.

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Re: Climate Change
« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2019, 01:11:43 PM »
I’m still waiting for Florida and southern California to disappear under water. Again, Democrats making promises that aren’t being kept.

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Re: Climate Change
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2019, 01:15:01 PM »
As most understand, this is a weather event, not a climate event.

However, I understand some folks confuse weather and climate.
While that’s true, the raving lunatics on the left will point to Climate Change. They always do. Tornadoes, hurricanes, cold snaps, periods of abnormal heat. The lunatics point to them all as indicators of Climate Change.

Cincydawg

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Re: Climate Change
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2019, 01:25:12 PM »
The actual "real" predictions of the climate change models are not nearly as draconian as the climate change politicians claim.  They suggest a meter rise in sea level by 2100 as a possibility.  That is significant for place like Miami if it occurred, but would hardly put Florida under water.

https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/climate-change-global-sea-level

NOAA scientists conducted a review of the research on global sea level rise projections, and concluded that there is very high confidence (greater than 90% chance) that global mean sea level will rise at least 8 inches (0.2 meter) but no more than 6.6 feet (2.0 meters) by 2100.

Cincydawg

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Re: Climate Change
« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2019, 01:42:16 PM »
I think it unfortunate that "politicians" have taken over this discussion instead of scientists, most of whom cite and publish rather more measured "predictions" without the hyperbole of an Al Gore or Bill Nye, etc.

https://judithcurry.com/

This lady is "interesting" and writes stuff that is not generally accepted by the climate worriers.

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Re: Climate Change
« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2019, 02:02:53 PM »
As most understand, this is a weather event, not a climate event.

However, I understand some folks confuse weather and climate.


As usual your narrow mindedness has you confused about the topic.  When I was in school the prediction then was another ice age.

As the graph shows the climate is cyclical and temperatures have been lower on average the past few years.

So you may want to invest in some wool underwear.      :D

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Climate was warmer 1000 years ago than now

[img width=508 height=340 title=Temps during Medieval Warm Period higher than now]https://iceagenow.info/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Temps-during-Medieval-Warm-Period-higher-than-now.jpg[/img]

https://www.iceagenow.info/climate-warmer-1000-years/




Cincydawg

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Re: Climate Change
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2019, 02:05:58 PM »
A cold snap is a weather event, not a climate event, at least, according to the commonly used definitions of the terms.  AS I said, no doubt some continue to confuse the two things.  It's expected.

Perhaps the best explanation was provided by Mark Twain:

"Climate is what we expect, weather is what we get.".

It obviously is possible to have cold weather during a prolonged climatic warming period.  Obvious to most anyway.

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Re: Climate Change
« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2019, 02:07:44 PM »
However, I understand some folks confuse weather and climate.

Well, of course.  I mean, if we didn't make it confusing, we could never sell climate change.

Cincydawg

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Re: Climate Change
« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2019, 02:10:30 PM »
As I've noted, climate change is largely sold based on political leanings.  Liberals tend to believe it is a problem and conservatives much less so.

Often, they believe whatever with a remarkably limited understanding of the actual science.  They believe what their political orientations suggests and then seek confirmation by selective reading of what's published, dismissing anything contrary and adopting anything supportive.

It's human nature.  Believe first, then seek supports for said belief.  Don't bother understand the hard stuff.

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Re: Climate Change
« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2019, 02:13:32 PM »

Implied above is that one could study their way out of being a Christian.

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Re: Climate Change
« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2019, 02:19:38 PM »
A cold snap is a weather event, not a climate event, at least, according to the commonly used definitions of the terms.  AS I said, no doubt some continue to confuse the two things.  It's expected.

Perhaps the best explanation was provided by Mark Twain:

"Climate is what we expect, weather is what we get.".

It obviously is possible to have cold weather during a prolonged climatic warming period.  Obvious to most anyway.


It's obvious you're one of the global warming nut jobs who think every time we have a heat wave it's Global Warming.

But until it's over and the temperature gets back to normal next spring you don't know what the hell it is.

For all you know we could look like Siberia in the winter time and it never warm back up. You're only assuming it's a spell.


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Re: Climate Change
« Reply #12 on: November 08, 2019, 03:23:08 PM »
This is VERY simple.  A cold snap is weather.

Climate change is a long term trend in mean temperatures (among other things).

Is this really beyond your comprehension abilities?

Weather is not the same thing as climate.

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Re: Climate Change
« Reply #13 on: November 08, 2019, 03:33:04 PM »
When I was in school the prediction then was another ice age.
I challenge anyone here to post a dumber rightwing talking point.  

 

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